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wca posted:So go straight to this 200-101 ICND2 CCNA or 200-120 CCNA? To earn the CCNA, you need to either pass the 200-120, which is a combined exam you take in one sitting covering both ICND1 and 2. Or take the 100-101 (which nets you the CCENT) and 200-101 (which upgrades you to full CCNA) exams separately.
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Docjowles posted:To earn the CCNA, you need to either pass the 200-120, which is a combined exam you take in one sitting covering both ICND1 and 2. Or take the 100-101 (which nets you the CCENT) and 200-101 (which upgrades you to full CCNA) exams separately. Oh okay now I see how this works. Thanks!
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Jun 18, 2015 20:10
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This is coming from someone who has never sat for a single Cisco certification, so take it as you well. But I have to say, I don't really see the point in taking the 200-120 exam over taking the two separate ones. I look at it this way: Scenario 1 - I'm reasonably convinced that I'm ready to get my CCNA. I sign up for the single test. I fail. Bye-bye $295.00 Scenario 2 - I'm reasonably convinced that I'm ready to get my CCNA. I sign up for the two tests. I pass the 100-101, because it is the easy one, but oops, I fail the 200-101. I'm out $150.00, but now I can focus solely on the 200-101 material for my retake. I mean I guess you shouldn't plan on failing, but why risk it?
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Jun 18, 2015 20:27
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:This is coming from someone who has never sat for a single Cisco certification, so take it as you well. But I have to say, I don't really see the point in taking the 200-120 exam over taking the two separate ones. This has been my thinking too, thankfully WGU treats each ICND exam like a class so it's split. Everyone I talk to seems to think that the composite exam is the way to go for some reason and I don't understand why.
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Jun 18, 2015 20:47
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First, split the ICND tests. It's easier and you're better off being able to focus on each. I took each separately and I'm thankful, as I originally failed the second so I only had to pay to retake half. Secondly, is CISSP anything new at all? I'm almost halfway through it and most of everything is covered under a mix of CCENT & sec+. I have to drop $600 for this?
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Jun 18, 2015 21:57
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crunk dork posted:This has been my thinking too, thankfully WGU treats each ICND exam like a class so it's split. Everyone I talk to seems to think that the composite exam is the way to go for some reason and I don't understand why. I've seen people say that if you take the composite you have the chance that it's mainly ICND1 questions, but it still doesn't seem like a great idea.
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Jun 18, 2015 22:50
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I took the composite and don't regret it. The stress was crazy because I couldn't afford to lose 300, but the idea is that you have 50 less questions to answer. The mile wide inch deep content of the icnd1 has to take a back seat to the icnd2 questions, and the harder icnd2 takes a back seat to questions making sure you understand concepts. You essentially avoid the fringe stuff for a 'core' test in which you can float your icnd2 score with easy icnd1 stuff.
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Jun 19, 2015 02:03
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I didn't know it was still only 50 question! I was under the impression that you sat for a part 1 that was ICND1 stuff and then a part 2 for ICND2 stuff right after.
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Jun 19, 2015 09:22
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Looking at the voucher prices I wonder do I need to get them in order like Network+ after or only if the employee requires me? I can afford CompTIA+ but I'm afraid I'll run out of funds soon 
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Jun 20, 2015 02:50
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No real order necessary in getting certs, however CompTIA believes that Security+ is a more advanced cert than Network+ and A+, so be aware that there are certain tiers of certifications that CompTIA offers. I'm looking at getting my Storage+ cert and according to CompTIA it will renew my Security+ CE as well as both my A+ and Network+ certifications, so there is that.
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Jun 20, 2015 04:26
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Daylen Drazzi posted:No real order necessary in getting certs, however CompTIA believes that Security+ is a more advanced cert than Network+ and A+, so be aware that there are certain tiers of certifications that CompTIA offers. I found a new goal in life: work for CompTIA. Alright, thanks. Sorry, just used to the idea how college works by taking lower level courses until you gain enough credits for higher ones too. Welp, back to studying then.
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Jun 20, 2015 04:39
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The biggest benefit of Sec+ is that it's IAT II compliant.
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OhDearGodNo posted:The biggest benefit of Sec+ is that it's IAT II compliant. I laugh about the requirement that all government employees, contractors and military personnel who operate in an IT capacity are required to be Security+ certified. And then there's the usual 1-2 Classified Messaging Incidents (classified material was accidentally released to NIPRnet or to individuals who did not have clearance to view the material) per day that need to be scrubbed from AFNET. Not one of those people seem to need Security+, and yet they are the ones who would likely benefit far more from training for the cert. Kind of a messed up priority IMO.
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Daylen Drazzi posted:I laugh about the requirement that all government employees, contractors and military personnel who operate in an IT capacity are required to be Security+ certified. And then there's the usual 1-2 Classified Messaging Incidents (classified material was accidentally released to NIPRnet or to individuals who did not have clearance to view the material) per day that need to be scrubbed from AFNET. Not one of those people seem to need Security+, and yet they are the ones who would likely benefit far more from training for the cert. Kind of a messed up priority IMO. That's assuming the people writing the opdirs are competent in any shape or form. e: Gonna shoot you a PM
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What's the goon consensus on ccna security? I've just finished my ccna r&s and my tutor recommends specialising, And security is the most interesting topic. Any advice as to how it's viewed in the industry?
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DreddyMatt posted:What's the goon consensus on ccna security? I've just finished my ccna r&s and my tutor recommends specialising, And security is the most interesting topic. Any advice as to how it's viewed in the industry? I would say that it's definitely a cert that's gaining more and more appreciation in the job market. I've seen quite a few security analyst positions that require it as one of their primary certifications. And considering the on-going damage that's gradually being discovered as part of the OPM hack I can only see it as gaining additional traction as a cert.
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DreddyMatt posted:What's the goon consensus on ccna security? I've just finished my ccna r&s and my tutor recommends specialising, And security is the most interesting topic. Any advice as to how it's viewed in the industry? Are you me? I finished CCNA r&s last Tuesday and started CCNA security today. CCNP looks daunting and wireless seems way underappreciated. My other option was ccda but I don't want to get sucked into a sales/support job. I just hope the CCNA security boosts my resume enough to be worth the time investment.
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Jun 24, 2015 01:58
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I'll be studying for CCNA: Sec later on this year as it's a requirement for my WGU track and the CCNA is up for renewal in early 2016. From what I understand Cisco just revamped the exam this month so hopefully it tackles more than just ASA config.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:04
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Daylen Drazzi posted:I would say that it's definitely a cert that's gaining more and more appreciation in the job market. I've seen quite a few security analyst positions that require it as one of their primary certifications. And considering the on-going damage that's gradually being discovered as part of the OPM hack I can only see it as gaining additional traction as a cert. That's good to hear. I'm taking ICND2 in a few weeks and then starting CCNA Security for WGU. Seems like a lot of us going to WGU are in the Security track.
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Daylen Drazzi posted:And considering the on-going damage that's gradually being discovered as part of the OPM hack I can only see it as gaining additional traction as a cert. That's my line of reasoning as well. Security definitely seems like growth sector. But a lot of jobs i've seen listed want cssp, which requires 3 years experience to qualify for the course.
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Anybody here ever took the CCNA Collaboration exam? I WAS going to study for CCNA Voice but that certs getting the axe in a few months
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Any cool dudes taken the CEH exam? I'm a developer currently and I read through the Sec+ stuff without ever taking the exam, but I have been having trouble figuring out which resources are good to prepare for the CEH exam, and I cannot find that many people that have taken it. Maybe that ought to be a clue.
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Race Realists posted:Anybody here ever took the CCNA Collaboration exam? I WAS going to study for CCNA Voice but that certs getting the axe in a few months You can still do voice, I'm taking it in a few weeks.
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Anyone have any success with studying via audio books? It's a habit im thinking of trying. I've really been listening to alot of podcasts lately and was thinking this might be more productive.
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AgentSythe posted:Any cool dudes taken the CEH exam? I'm a developer currently and I read through the Sec+ stuff without ever taking the exam, but I have been having trouble figuring out which resources are good to prepare for the CEH exam, and I cannot find that many people that have taken it. Maybe that ought to be a clue. How appropriate! I just passed the CEH his morning! I used the all in one bundle and the Boson practice tests. The Boson tests were a great help for preparing and I think the all in one bundle had good base information. I probably studied way too hard for it, ended up with a 84%. If you have any other questions let me know!
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Doug posted:How appropriate! I just passed the CEH his morning! I used the all in one bundle and the Boson practice tests. The Boson tests were a great help for preparing and I think the all in one bundle had good base information. I probably studied way too hard for it, ended up with a 84%. If you have any other questions let me know! Congrats. I start a job in Cyber Security in a few weeks time after spending the last 15 years in networking. No prior experience but used my experience in previous roles doing desktop/server/application/network support to wing the technical questions in the interview and managed to do OK. This is an internal move within a big IT company and, as part of a previous role, I have a subscription to CBT Nuggets so was going to sit through their CEH v8 videos when I get a chance.
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Can having a shitton of CCNAs and CCNPs compensate for not having a CCIE?
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Race Realists posted:Can having a shitton of CCNAs and CCNPs compensate for not having a CCIE? Short-term maybe, long-term no.
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That's kinda like asking if having 4 associates degrees can compensate for not having a PhD. And the answer is no. The first person has a huge breadth of knowledge about a bunch of different things. The second person is one of the leading experts on earth about a more focused subject. There's nothing wrong with being more of a generalist. But a company looking to hire a CCIE is doing so for a specific reason. They want that depth of knowledge (or might literally need the cert to get partner status or something). "I know a bit about R&S, data center, security, voice, AND wireless" is not the same as "I know an ungodly amount about one of those topics".
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Race Realists posted:Can having a shitton of CCNAs and CCNPs compensate for not having a CCIE? It says you like taking tests.
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What I don't get is why they don't do practical exams until the expert level. I think showing skill is more important than memorizing menu dropdowns and poo poo.
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Doing proctored practical exams would probably be prohibitively expensive below the expert level. (say that sentence five times fast)
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That sentence five times fast. Also yeah, you can have all the CCNAs or CCNPs you want - CCIE wins. Because also, to piggyback off what Docjowles said about specializing vs breadth of knowledge, someone with a CCIE level of knowledge in a specific subject, is going to pick up, let's call it "strong CCNA, weak CCNP" level knowledge on the other subjects as well. These aren't silos of knowledge - if you're the world's foremost expert on MPLS, you aren't going to be a bumpkin on, let's say, BGP. It'd be like... a guy with a VCDX from VMware is probably a MCSA level sys admin without having concentrated on it, simply because you can't separate the knowledge. MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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Anyone familiar with the Asghar Ghori RHCSA/RHCE books? Worthwhile? From what I understand Michael Jang is the standard but his RHEL 7 book isn't coming out until December.
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I just got an email from CompTIA. Apparently it's not enough to have passed the CCNA since I've gotten my Network+. They also require a $147 3 year renewal fee! What a crock of poo poo. I dont even think it's worth getting reimbursed by my employer for. Any negative consequences if I let it lapse? I mean I could still list it on my resume if need be right?
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Personally, I'd say the ccna entirely supplants the network+
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I just got an email from CompTIA. Apparently it's not enough to have passed the CCNA since I've gotten my Network+. They also require a $147 3 year renewal fee! What a crock of poo poo. I dont even think it's worth getting reimbursed by my employer for. Any negative consequences if I let it lapse? I mean I could still list it on my resume if need be right? Why would CompTIA care about your CCNA? And if you have your CCNA I would say you can safely let the N+ lapse.
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Inspector_666 posted:Why would CompTIA care about your CCNA? And if you have your CCNA I would say you can safely let the N+ lapse. They just list it as a cert that counts as "continuing education" credits for your A+ and N+. I mean I still list both on my resume mostly to just get past the HR gatekeepers that don't know any better. Maybe I'll see if I can get it reimbursed. The fee just seems like a straight up money grab.
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Ozu posted:Anyone familiar with the Asghar Ghori RHCSA/RHCE books? Worthwhile? From what I understand Michael Jang is the standard but his RHEL 7 book isn't coming out until December. There's currently a very slow readthrough happening. Slow mostly because I'm busy at work. It's ok, but there are some badly written parts, confusing parts, [url=http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3698237&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=5#post445815910]not-best-practice parts[/quote], etc. In general, I'd say that the official training docs (if you take a RHCSA/RHCE course from Red Hat, fast track or not) are better than Ghori or Jang, and they've been available for a long time, but not everyone wants to go through an official course, so...
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I just got an email from CompTIA. Apparently it's not enough to have passed the CCNA since I've gotten my Network+. They also require a $147 3 year renewal fee! What a crock of poo poo. I dont even think it's worth getting reimbursed by my employer for. Any negative consequences if I let it lapse? I mean I could still list it on my resume if need be right? I think Security+ will extend you. That's not a terrible cert to have and it's easy as poo poo.
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