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Joementum posted:No, he called it an "act of terror", which as we learned in 2012 is completely different! Bernie Sanders Wrong on Domestic Terrorism Wrong for America 
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Jun 19, 2015 18:16
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Unlike Hillary, who gave the shooting some serious thought, prayed about it, consulted with local community leaders and the result is let's blame Trump. all of your posts own, im glad i found someone who can make me laugh in D&D
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Jun 19, 2015 18:19
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Joementum posted:The difference is that, since yesterday, he has been arrested and told the police that his motive was to start a race war. its the conservative version of all those democrats wondering if elizabeth warren is gonna run or not
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Jun 19, 2015 18:28
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DaveWoo posted:I suspect most people would agree that the sort of inflammatory, xenophobic rhetoric that Trump exhibited the other day probably isn't particularly healthy for our national discourse. Sure, I'll buy that. Unfortunately, in context she was assigning blame for killing sprees like Charleston instead of whatever reasonable thing you just wrote.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:30
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forbidden lesbian posted:its the conservative version of all those democrats wondering if elizabeth warren is gonna run or not which is itself the liberal version of climate change denial... woah
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Jun 19, 2015 18:31
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my bony fealty posted:fuckin lol @ Jeb! ignoring the fact that the shooter flat out said he wanted to kill blacks because they rape and pillage white America Those were the drugs talking, we'll never know what he was really thinking 
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Jun 19, 2015 18:32
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Unlike Hillary, who gave the shooting some serious thought, prayed about it, consulted with local community leaders and the result is let's blame Trump. You realize that Donald Trump is a republican presidential candidate who called all Mexicans rapists. Right?
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Jun 19, 2015 18:36
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Sure, I'll buy that. Unfortunately, in context she was assigning blame for killing sprees like Charleston instead of whatever reasonable thing you just wrote. You are very bad at this whole "context" thing.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:42
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Caros posted:You realize that Donald Trump is a republican presidential candidate who called all Mexicans rapists. Right? Now hold on. He said the good Mexicans stay in Mexico. And the bad ones, including rapists, cross our borders. He also said that some of those bad ones are probably good people. See how nuanced he was?
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Jun 19, 2015 18:43
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Trump's Facebook page also has a response.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:43
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Spacebump posted:Trump's Facebook page also has a response. His campaign is just beautiful 
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Jun 19, 2015 18:48
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Sir Tonk posted:Bernie Sanders If killing people for the purpose of trying to start a race war doesn't constitute an act of terror, what does? Furthermore, lmao at the people in this thread who think Hilary wouldn't allow a Republican congress to do some awful poo poo that benefits the people giving her tons of money. That alone is enough of a reason to put Bernie on the ticket, never mind any of what he actually believes which is a ton better than what she's giving us.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:48
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She's absolutely right and surprisingly candid in that observation.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:49
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The Shortest Path posted:If killing people for the purpose of trying to start a race war doesn't constitute an act of terror, what does? Why do you have the impression that people in this thread have the power to put Sanders on any ticket? I'm not a registered Democrat, so I wouldn't be able to vote for him in the primaries, assuming he makes it as far as New York before conceding.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:56
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Biden VP for life. Trump campaign for life. He should campaign every time, kicking it off the day after inauguration.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:58
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So I know y'all probably don't give them any credit, but have you heard any of the rumblings from our minor parties? Has Dr. Jill Stein been making the rounds?
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Jun 19, 2015 18:58
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MrSargent posted:Sorry that this discussion was from a few pages back but could someone give me the key arguments against Rand Paul's flat tax proposal? I know that a flat tax has been proposed before and it has never been a feasible option. My original thought is that a flat tax rate of 14.5% would dramatically reduce the budget, requiring massive cuts to existing programs. In addition, doesn't it also put the biggest tax burden on the middle/lower class? I would appreciate any strong, succint arguments that I can use on my hopeless facebook crusade. Setting the tax rate to a flat rate of 14.5% would be a massive, massive tax cut for rich people. He also wants to eliminate inheritance tax -- again, only for rich people. To be fair, he also wants to eliminate payroll taxes -- those fall disproportionately on poor people, but they're what the government uses to pay for Social Security and Medicare. His plan does not make it clear where the money would come from to keep those plans going (secretly he wants to shut them down and/or privatize them). He claims that this plan would encourage investment and lead to massive growth and jobs. The problem is, that argument is founded on the principles of supply-side economics. Supply-side economics don't work. Even there, his numbers are a bit flaky. He claims that over ten years, his plan will add 10% to the GDP and create 1.4 million jobs. That equates to a 1% GDP increase per year (which is substantial), and 140,000 new jobs each year. Last month, the US added 280,000 new jobs, and our GDP growth is trending negative. Even in Randian math, those numbers make no sense at all. Even if his numbers were real (they're not), his package would require massive spending cuts. He claims that by making spending cuts (which would need to be more extreme than he claims), and the growth in the economy from trickle-down (which wouldn't happen), the budget would balance. It wouldn't.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:59
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Why do you have the impression that people in this thread have the power to put Sanders on any ticket? I'm not a registered Democrat, so I wouldn't be able to vote for him in the primaries, assuming he makes it as far as New York before conceding. There is still plenty of time to change your party affiliation before the primary.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:01
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Why do you have the impression that people in this thread have the power to put Sanders on any ticket? I'm not a registered Democrat, so I wouldn't be able to vote for him in the primaries, assuming he makes it as far as New York before conceding. Every single person in this thread has the power to register Democrat and vote in the primary. His polling numbers are similar to if not better than what Obama had in a similar timeframe for the 2008 election. Don't be lazy and give the cop-out "my vote doesn't matter" excuse, because the more people that do that the more we lose.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:02
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:So I know y'all probably don't give them any credit, but have you heard any of the rumblings from our minor parties? Has Dr. Jill Stein been making the rounds? I haven't heard much about her since 2012. This is the latest post on her Facebook page, from June 10th: quote:Friends: now that I've seen how excited people are for a new kind of politics, I'm preparing to make a big announcement soon One thing I will say for Sanders, at least he's an active politician between Presidential election.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:02
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taqueso posted:There is still plenty of time to change your party affiliation before the primary. I live in Missouri so I don't even have to register as Democrat to get in there and vote. Maybe we should all change the rules of our state to allow for open primaries.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:02
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taqueso posted:There is still plenty of time to change your party affiliation before the primary. The Shortest Path posted:Every single person in this thread has the power to register Democrat and vote in the primary. His polling numbers are similar to if not better than what Obama had in a similar timeframe for the 2008 election. Don't be lazy and give the cop-out "my vote doesn't matter" excuse, because the more people that do that the more we lose. To my knowledge that's not how it works in NYS. Unless the Election Committee deceived me, your registration is only valid for the election after the next. That's why I wasn't able to vote against Cuomo in the WFP's primaries. If you have a link showing otherwise, I would strongly consider hopping over just for this purpose, although I am loth to give the Dems more general credibility in this State. (Not that WFP has much left,  )Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:I live in Missouri so I don't even have to register as Democrat to get in there and vote. Maybe we should all change the rules of our state to allow for open primaries. I'm not sure I like that. Party affiliation should stand for something. The person you're presenting to be elected should be representative of what the party stands for, not of whoever decided to show up for your primary.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:07
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:So I know y'all probably don't give them any credit, but have you heard any of the rumblings from our minor parties? Has Dr. Jill Stein been making the rounds? That gang tag is awesome.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:07
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Party affiliation should stand for something. I hate to break it to you, but...
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Jun 19, 2015 19:12
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Absurd Alhazred posted:To my knowledge that's not how it works in NYS. Unless the Election Committee deceived me, your registration is only valid for the election after the next. That's why I wasn't able to vote against Cuomo in the WFP's primaries. If you have a link showing otherwise, I would strongly consider hopping over just for this purpose, although I am loth to give the Dems more general credibility in this State. (Not that WFP has much left, NYC voter info thing I googled, NYC because I couldn't find one for NYS so hopefully it applies posted:To Change Your Party Affiliation
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Absurd Alhazred posted:To my knowledge that's not how it works in NYS. Unless the Election Committee deceived me, your registration is only valid for the election after the next. That's why I wasn't able to vote against Cuomo in the WFP's primaries. If you have a link showing otherwise, I would strongly consider hopping over just for this purpose, although I am loth to give the Dems more general credibility in this State. (Not that WFP has much left, Check here for your registration status in New York State. For anyone unsure of their voter status, Can I Vote dot Org is a great resource. quote:I'm not sure I like that. Party affiliation should stand for something. The person you're presenting to be elected should be representative of what the party stands for, not of whoever decided to show up for your primary. Yes, I agree with this.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:19
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Governor Feelgood has figured out the real cause of the Charleston shooting, pills.quote:“And also,” Perry continued, “I think there’s a real issue to be talked about : It seems to me — again, without having all the details about this one — that these individuals have been medicated. And there may be a real issue in this country, from the standpoint of these drugs, and how they’re used.” http://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/rick-perry-psychiatric-medication-may-have-been-a-factor-in?utm_term=.cxgVWzvnW#.ywG3ElKj5
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Jun 19, 2015 19:21
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Governor Feelgood has figured out the real cause of the Charleston shooting, pills. quote:The former Texas governor made the comments in an interview with NewsmaxTV’s Steve Malzberg, after Malzberg asked whether the shooting, which left 9 dead, should be called “an act of terror.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA
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Jun 19, 2015 19:24
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 Trump kept going bankrupt because he is actually an incredibly savvy businessman!
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Jun 19, 2015 19:25
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Is that a Calendar Year or 365 days? Not being able to vote in your changed party's primary in the same calendar year you changed is dumb but makes way more sense than having to wait 365 days before you can vote in the primary. Seriously though, what the gently caress New York?
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Jun 19, 2015 19:26
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taqueso posted:It seems like you are correct, if the last sentence is completely true. That makes it possible to have a huge delay between submitting the change and them processing it. The primary system is so irregular. Yeah, that sounds about right. Gyges posted:Is that a Calendar Year or 365 days? Not being able to vote in your changed party's primary in the same calendar year you changed is dumb but makes way more sense than having to wait 365 days before you can vote in the primary. Point is they wouldn't register my change of affiliation until after the 2016 elections, so definitely not in time for the NYS Democratic Primaries for those elections. Probably exactly to avoid a situation where someone will hop affiliation just to vote in a specific primary.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:29
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If anyone was wondering, the "we've come to take our country back" shirst is still for sale on Rand Pauls website.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:30
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amanasleep posted:JEB: All we know is that Elmer Fudd was in the forest with a gun. I adore this not just because you used the picture I made, but I love the idea of Jeb! defending the murder of a beloved children's character.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:32
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You don't get it, Jeb! is just demonstrating his mastery of philosophy. He is not that guy, therefore he cannot know his mind.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:34
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Gyges posted:Is that a Calendar Year or 365 days? Not being able to vote in your changed party's primary in the same calendar year you changed is dumb but makes way more sense than having to wait 365 days before you can vote in the primary. Once you understand that the primaries in states that have them (and in fact election laws in general) are meant to benefit the two major parties and exclude everyone else it makes more sense. State run primaries are basically a way to put lipstick on the pig of "smoke filled room" candidate (s)elections.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:36
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Jeb's bullshit on the campaign trail hasn't really been worth getting too riled up about, but this is making my blood boil.quote:Jeb Bush Reminds Conservatives That He 'Stood' With Terri Schiavo
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Jun 19, 2015 19:36
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mlmp08 posted:Hope: now a method! Well it's not like we're gonna institute gun control, improve psychiatric care or use the FBI to track down white supremacists with Jeb! In office, so what else do you propose?
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Jun 19, 2015 19:40
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gently caress Jeb. His statement was calculated and focus grouped enough not to offend but the fact is he's consoling a group of people who weren't targeted in any way (out of a shared desperation to he persecuted) while the actual victims and why they were murdered are ignored.
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I stood by that braindead woman just as I stand here now, for you braindead donors.
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