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pram posted:mastering 'linux' will take years, it's a broad subject. if you're going to dedicate time to it you may as well learn stuff that may yield some actual value  Symbolic Butt posted:I like this galahan guy, he sounds like a nerd even by yospos standards
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galahan posted:Thank you for your good advice, but I need a guy like that though for what
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Jun 20, 2015 20:30
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guy who can put together a desktop and install enlightenment on gentoo
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Jun 20, 2015 20:56
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yeah? would you pay money for that?
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Jun 20, 2015 21:02
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pram posted:yeah? would you pay money for that? samsung would lmao
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Jun 20, 2015 21:50
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They would have to be a real nerd like me to do it for free, sadly I seem to lack the skill. Any of these would do ;0 but I wouldn't learn a drat thing that way would I? http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Source-based I actually would pay, but It would depend on the amount. I also realize no one else would pay for it and I'd just have to do it all again probably with a new computer, no? Or maybe it would be my own semi-custom semi-portable OS after that? Intel CPU, SSD, and networking, ATI HD 6900, ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution I'd have new things to look forward to breaking horribly If so. Idk how it would all work with win 10 with it being all beta, I might ought to wait till that comes out or go back to 7 64 bit.
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Jun 20, 2015 21:50
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I mean I paid $20 for sunshine and unlock my phone even though it was developers edition because it became a pain in the rear end is kind of scary and I'd already used several hours up and got a red triangle once in my ignorance.
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Jun 20, 2015 22:09
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pram is telling u to elarn something worth a drat so u can make a living and realize ude rathyer suck diseased cock than janitor linux on the desktop for "fun" which btw isnt fun once uve tasted the a savory poison load
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Jun 20, 2015 22:12
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gj falling for the troll guys
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Jun 20, 2015 22:41
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ur a troll
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Jun 21, 2015 00:05
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galahan posted:They would have to be a real nerd like me to do it for free, sadly I seem to lack the skill. is this a time portal to [h]ardforums circa 1997, or is this guy for real? no, there is nothing to learn about "source-based" distributions. it's dumb as gently caress. nobody does that poo poo in production. no one will pay you to install gentoo on anything because lolwhut the only practical thing linux desktops are used for is developing software. for which purpose you will want a normal boring linux distribution that comes with normal boring development tools, not some weird thing also linux won't work worth poo poo on your weird frankenstein PC because ati graphics cards are effectively unsupportable. you'll want to remove that. or maybe just buy a laptop, because it's 2015. Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 21, 2015 |
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Jun 21, 2015 02:00
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I agree with people here, you should redirect your spergy need to rice a linux to something more productive or at least something a little more interesting, like go learn to code and make one of those roguelike text games. even if it's cliche it's still way more interesting than spending hours tweaking your wm config files
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Jun 21, 2015 07:36
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if you're really into linux sysadmin stuff don't bother learning much beyond the basics of bash scripting because it's painfully bad choose one scripting language and learn it instead. like ruby or python or perl... maybe even haskell or erlang? I heard people really like them for scripting idk? whatever floats your boat
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Jun 21, 2015 07:40
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what the hell happened here itt install arch
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Jun 21, 2015 10:27
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Symbolic Butt posted:if you're really into linux sysadmin stuff don't bother learning much beyond the basics of bash scripting Erlang is painful for scripting and nobody unironically uses Haskell for anything useful
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Jun 21, 2015 13:19
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surely everyone itt manages their money with hledger, the most linux of all accounting software
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Jun 21, 2015 13:28
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galahan posted:I actually would pay if you're going to make kindling of your money i will gladly take it.
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Jun 21, 2015 16:16
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Erlang is painful for scripting and nobody unironically uses Haskell for anything useful the scripting stuff for haskell looks really cool and good but my coworkers would hate me
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Jun 21, 2015 18:21
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Symbolic Butt posted:if you're really into linux sysadmin stuff don't bother learning much beyond the basics of bash scripting this is some correct posting right here learn enough shell to fumble through somebody else's shell scripts. don't add to the problem by writing your own.
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Jun 21, 2015 18:21
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I used to want to learn how the OS worked on a low level because it was mysterious and magical to me, then I started studying and learned just enough to realize that it's actually really boring & we only have so much time on this gay earth so unless you're getting paid to do it just install debian & go paint a picture or something
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Jun 21, 2015 18:30
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Silver Alicorn posted:I used to want to learn how the OS worked on a low level because it was mysterious and magical to me, then I started studying and learned just enough to realize that it's actually really boring & we only have so much time on this gay earth so unless you're getting paid to do it just install debian & go paint a picture or something learning the core C APIs is pretty important for both developers and systems administrators though. linux/unix/posix have a lot more going on than just ansi C stuff. "knowing" C without knowing unix is not really useful. anyone serious about the platform should work through APUE, if only so you can read strace output when your lovely ruby script doesn't work due to interpreter bugs kernel internals are boring tho unless you intend to hack on the kernel
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Jun 21, 2015 18:34
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how do people still want to "learn" linux in tyool 2015? i only know about this garbage because of a tragic childhood. i cant imagine somebody who wants to hurt themselves like that
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Jun 21, 2015 23:58
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it may sound unlikely, but there are in fact a pretty large number of jobs where you can be paid actual money for knowing how to use a linux my job even involves using linux on the desktop! (over vnc from a windows machine, of course, nobody has actual desktop computers running linux)
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Jun 22, 2015 00:03
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unfortunately i majored in The Liberal Arts so i have no way to use the nerd poo poo i learned when i was a dumb 15 year old and i happen to be bitter edit: used gay as a slur... not cool sorry Joe Chip fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jun 22, 2015 |
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Jun 22, 2015 00:07
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you can always get a new degree
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Jun 22, 2015 00:40
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who givesa poo poo bout education??? are you applying for a research job?
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Jun 22, 2015 00:56
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Cocoa Crispies posted:they're right though they're right though that Source Sans Pro is a pretty nice font don't get me wrong, it's no Helvetica or San Francisco, but it winds up looking quite good when used as the UI font in Haiku (at 13pt, 12 is a little too small) Suspicious Dish: what are the primary UI fonts that Endless is using?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:who givesa poo poo bout education??? HR and recruiters and they are your mortal enemy
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Jun 22, 2015 03:20
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:did anyone ever get around to proving that kdbus was actually useful? only as an idea and by analogy to Mach messages, not in its actual implementation, at least so far as I saw it sounded so very slow in all the descriptions of all the copying etc. involved, which is something Mach worked extremely hard to get right (and ultimately did) from day one
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Jun 22, 2015 03:20
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I don't give a gently caress about your education when I'm hiring you, I want to see that you know your current poo poo, you know what you're poo poo at and your drive to become less poo poo and your ability to explain some previous poo poo on the whiteboard
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Jun 22, 2015 03:22
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galahan posted:guy who can put together a desktop and install enlightenment on gentoo why would you do that when you can download and run Haiku and get a far nicer computing experience using a fraction the resources?
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Jun 22, 2015 03:25
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ahmeni posted:I don't give a gently caress about your education when I'm hiring you, I want to see that you know your current poo poo, you know what you're poo poo at and your drive to become less poo poo please hire me because you're the only person who has ever said this ever lol
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Jun 22, 2015 03:30
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ahmeni posted:I don't give a gently caress about your education when I'm hiring you, I want to see that you know your current poo poo, you know what you're poo poo at and your drive to become less poo poo you clearly did not attend an ivy league school
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Jun 22, 2015 05:27
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eschaton posted:why would you do that when you can download and run Haiku and get a far nicer computing experience using a fraction the resources? now i understand how you could defend mach messaging
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a butt posted:unfortunately i majored in The Liberal Arts so i have no way to use the nerd poo poo i learned when i was a dumb 15 year old and i happen to be bitter my degree is in english literature. I program computer. you can still get a computer job even if you made bad choices at school, it just takes a bit more luck to find a place that looks at more than just what bits of paper you possess I mean, most stem graduates are terrible at computer, I have no idea why hr drones think otherwise
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Jun 22, 2015 07:52
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a butt posted:please hire me because you're the only person who has ever said this ever lol put a community college degree on your resume, nobody gives a gently caress they're just checking boxes. the goal of HR is to pretend like hiring is not gate-kept by someone who hosed up so bad they ended up in HR
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Jun 22, 2015 11:36
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eschaton posted:only as an idea and by analogy to Mach messages, not in its actual implementation, at least so far as I saw lol rip Jochen Liedtke, man who made microkernels fast
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Jun 22, 2015 12:57
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galahan posted:I was just itching to format its been awhile I also need a project for the day but I realized what I was talking about could very well take me a month at my current level of skill I understand this itch but unless you are willing to learn programming and debugging you should not be touching gentoo with a 10 foot pole. Things take forever to build, and if there's an issue, you need to wade through a million log entries and opinions and related issues to determine why your binaries aren't compiling. Like others said, you should dip your toes into CentOS or Ubuntu.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:31
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celeron 300a posted:you should not be touching gentoo
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don't take the difficulty of building something stupid like gentoo on the desktop as a point of pride. there are use cases for the os, i know a few shops that use it in production as a server. as previously mentioned you can learn server things with much less headaches on almost any other operating system. if you don't understand much of what you're doing setting it up you aren't going to learn anything, or be magically more wise by virtue of using it. if you want tape together a bunch of components yourself at least use arch, you'll actually finish the install in an afternoon
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