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ImpAtom posted:Basically you've got to learn your invincibility frames. Even the simple act of jumping has invincibility frames and it's one of the best way to avoid attacks. Dante is probably the easiest since he DOES have a 'dodge button' mode with Trickster. Besides jumping and the dodge roll, what are other good ways to avoid damage? Bayonetta kinda spoiled me too, but largely because of how deprecated locking on is in that game, where it's still a core part of DMC's controls. They're such different games!
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So use trick up to dodge, seems like it would work great with Berial.
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EightFlyingCars posted:Besides jumping and the dodge roll, what are other good ways to avoid damage? DMC has always encouraged a very, very aggressive play style. Stunlocking anything that gets close to you does most of the work.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:23
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notZaar posted:So use trick up to dodge, seems like it would work great with Berial. Berial's tough to fight while airborne: if you don't have an aerial dodge, you'll probably be caught out of position by the lava spikes, spinning slash, or nuke explosion. Interesting choice to have Nero fight him as the first actual boss, since Nero's aerial movement sucks compared to Dante. Better to fight from the ground, or use DT for Trick Down and/or Trick spam.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:25
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I'm motivated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxu761LhBI (Guys, I think this game is gonna eat my life a second time, please send help.  )
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Jun 23, 2015 19:30
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I'm going spoil a thing: The dice game snatch trick doesn't work for Vergil, haven't tried Nero or Lady yet.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:44
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I really don't understand how anyone can look at videos like that from DMC4 and not totally understand why so many of us were so upset at the reboot. There is no capacity for anything that Smokin' Sick Stylish in DmC.
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Bust Rodd posted:I really don't understand how anyone can look at videos like that from DMC4 and not totally understand why so many of us were so upset at the reboot. There is no capacity for anything that Smokin' Sick Stylish in DmC. Because you're just a butthurt fanboy who is mad about hair, duh. What else could it be?
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Jun 23, 2015 19:55
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EightFlyingCars posted:Besides jumping and the dodge roll, what are other good ways to avoid damage? Aggression. Enemies tend to have more damage stun in this game. Nero's grab moves are also a godsend for interrupting enemies
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Jun 23, 2015 20:02
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Hel posted:I'm going spoil a thing: The dice game snatch trick doesn't work for Vergil, haven't tried Nero or Lady yet. You mean the one where whatever number you hit is the one you roll? Because starfall and helm breaker do that on Vergil's side. I haven't gotten to the dice game on any other characters yet though.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:You mean the one where whatever number you hit is the one you roll? Because starfall and helm breaker do that on Vergil's side. I haven't gotten to the dice game on any other characters yet though. Great will remember that for the next dice game. Always good to be able to bypass them. I anyone finds what works for Lady please post that as well.
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Jun 23, 2015 20:22
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notZaar posted:Right but the question was about SSS ranking. I don't think there is a SSS ranking. Both the results screen and overall screens only show a single S.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:07
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Hel posted:Great will remember that for the next dice game. Always good to be able to bypass them. I anyone finds what works for Lady please post that as well. Her first melee attack does the trick for Lady. You just have to start early because the attack comes out so slowly. Speaking of Lady, are a lot of her animations just not cancellable? It feels like she spends a lot of time rooted in place and the game expects me to anticipate attacks more than just relying on reflexes alone. That or I just don't really get her yet.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:08
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Kind of. I'm not that far in the game yet but I find I do need to be careful about using her big slow moves. If you don't have the space she does have faster moves like shotgun stinger (the followup attack is absurdly strong for something with no charge), pistol/shotgun charges, and the grappling hook. And of course save DT burst to clear out crowds.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:38
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Brutakas posted:I don't think there is a SSS ranking. Both the results screen and overall screens only show a single S. It's not a "real" ranking, it just means getting an "S" in all 3 categories.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:42
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Sindai posted:Kind of. I'm not that far in the game yet but I find I do need to be careful about using her big slow moves. If you don't have the space she does have faster moves like shotgun stinger (the followup attack is absurdly strong for something with no charge), pistol/shotgun charges, and the grappling hook. Burst is pretty cool for iframing through big boss attacks too.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:16
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I'm a bad person for wanting to play through the game with the regular characters again first, knowing I'll probably never get through the full character list with my current time constraints.
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Jun 24, 2015 01:48
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Quick question before I do something stupid: If I quit mid-mission after completing a secret mission, I'll keep my secret mission progress right? There's no way to manually save that I can see, and I don't want to have to redo secret missions if I don't have to.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:14
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I picked Lady/Trish to start off with, since I wanted a fresh experience. I didn't realize how drat powerful Lady is. If you play careful you can rip through enemies. It's hard to get stylish moves off for big damage though, on the bosses' "attack window" it seems like it's best to just charge up some rockets.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:17
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I forgot just how much of my Nero play revolves around timing Max-act and level 3 blue rose charges. Starting out without either again is rough
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Jun 24, 2015 02:59
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Good Citizen posted:I forgot just how much of my Nero play revolves around timing Max-act and level 3 blue rose charges. Starting out without either again is rough You can at least get 3 charges and a few moves by right after the first boss, but I really wish Max-act was a thing you started with.
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Jun 24, 2015 03:33
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Just play around with the other characters for a bit and use the souls you get from them to get it.
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Quitting right before I get to the Dante fight. Super terrified of how that'll be with lady and her minimal mobility.
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Jun 24, 2015 05:13
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Jun 24, 2015 05:43
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I played DMC4 a while ago and I swear there was a toggle lock on button, am I crazy?
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Jun 24, 2015 06:33
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Might be something you can change in options? Seems like a bad idea though, since you're constantly locking and unlocking to do moves.
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Is there any sort of bonus of having the original version and getting the Special Edition of 4 on PC? Cause I kind of want to play this on my PS4.
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Nope, go ahead. Is it bad I'm eye balling the DLC because I kinda don't feel like grinding up everybody and getting to DMD mode.
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notZaar posted:I picked Lady/Trish to start off with, since I wanted a fresh experience. I didn't realize how drat powerful Lady is. If you play careful you can rip through enemies. It's hard to get stylish moves off for big damage though, on the bosses' "attack window" it seems like it's best to just charge up some rockets. the correct method of fighting all bosses as lady is extremely stupid and not stylish at all it's just shooting them with a shotgun until they die i've never played dmc4 to finish before and i actually still do not know the attacks of the bosses because of how simple it is to do this to all of them see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MaOL-urRy8
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Every enemy in the game was built on the assumption that the player's ranged attacks are much weaker than their melee so it was inevitable Lady would break things to some extent. I'm glad they went ahead with her anyway. Also I think that's still slower than Dante can chump Berial with a few distorted real impacts. Sindai fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Is anyone else having a hard time fighting The Savior as Vergil, or has Savior always been this much of a pain in the rear end?
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So played through a few stages with Lady. I thought she was super limited at first but man some of her style attacks are so...stylish. The launcher with the twosome time attack has a really wide range and drat those guns can stunlock. Might have to adjust the controller settings for charge shots. Setting it to the a trigger might be better.
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I never really used Vergil's summoned swords much outside of the basic ones during combos and spiral swords in DMC3, but holy drat is blistering swords insane. I just facerolled DMD Dante 2 with a mix of beowulf, spiral swords, and blistering swords. It just does so much damage, doesn't cost much, and not having any activation animation is really nice.
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Startin' to heat up *vroom vroom* Yea I'm starting with Nero & Dante since I need to unlock DT and weapons Orb scoring is mad stupid but luckily style and time are weighted more in the score screen. S Rank me bro
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Here's some ction crap on sale on EU PSN, some of it doesn't suck!quote:Anarchy Reigns There's some other good stuff on sale like Vanquish, Dragon's Dogma, the Souls games, etc as well as lots of hunting games, musou and sidescrolling poo poo.
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Jun 24, 2015 14:12
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Does anyone own DMC4 on the PS4? Does it achieve a steady 60fps? Can't decide on PC or PS4. Normally I would pick PC, but if they're identical, I'll probably go PS4.
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Jun 24, 2015 14:28
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They're pretty much the same.
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Charlie Brown posted:Does anyone own DMC4 on the PS4? I haven't seen any framerate drops yet, but admittedly I've only played a few missions of each campaign. Speaking of, Vergil is super super fun and I had a way easier time picking him up than Lady. It seems like she's not very good at comboing, although it might just be the limited moveset I have right now. She loving destroys bosses though, that's great.
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Jun 24, 2015 14:31
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The PC version will probably get cool mods and trainers if that matters to you.
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Read Gaudy mods that look like rear end and trainers with nonsensical difficulty modifications that just test how long you can stunlock rather than do much new. Well i dont thin you really are missing much, unless you want to skip the proud orb grind.
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