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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Necronomiconomist posted:

you can go listen to Ross's mom talk on Friday about how arresting her son violated the Constitution!



http://www.businessinsider.com/lyn-ulbricht-revealed-the-most-frustrating-thing-about-the-trial-2015-5

Lyn Ulbricht, spoke to CNN Money, maintaining her son's innocence. "The most frustrating thing is that evidence that is favorable to Ross is being suppressed," she told CNN. "This came out in the cross examination for the first witness."

The evidence Lyn referred to emerged during defense attorney Joshua Dratel's cross-examination of federal agent Jared Der-Yeghiayan. That agent investigated Silk Road for two years and admitted at the end of the trial's first week that, Mark Karpeles, founder of the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox, was the DHS' main suspect only a month and a half before Ulbricht's arrest.

Der-Yeghiayan confirmed that at one point he sought a warrant to search Karpeles’ gmail account based on “probable cause” that the Mt. Gox owner had secretly administered the Silk Road in a bid to boost the price of bitcoin, Wired reported. In an affidavit, Der-Yeghiayan also mentioned an interview conducted between Forbes' Andy Greenberg and Dread Pirate Roberts in 2013 "that sounded very much like Karpeles."

The defense suffered a major blow when, the following week, Judge Katherine Forrest dismissed this part of the Der-Yeghiayan's testimony as "hearsay" and instructed the jury to disregard any mention Der-Yeghiayan had made of Mark Karpeles during the cross-examination.

"He never came across Ross' name but did ... pinpoint another name which he said was Mark Karpeles," Lyn continued, in the CNN Money interview. "He was closing in on Karpeles when another DHS agency [inadvertently] tipped off Karpeles."

The stricken testimony incriminating Karpeles was not the only part of the trial Ulbricht's family and supporters found frustrating.

"We believe there were significant errors at trial, including the limiting of defense cross-examination, the preclusion of defense experts, and the exclusion of certain defense evidence in the form of documents and other exhibits," Ulbricht's lawyer, defense attorney Joshua Dratel, said in an emailed statement to Business Insider.

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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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her entire narrative boils down to mark did it and antonopoulos could've proved it

i do admit that i'm a little disappointed he didn't get the chance to make an rear end out of himself at the trial, but whatevs

MGN001
May 12, 2012

"my son's lawyer didn't follow the rules, but the fact that my son was found guilty was the government's fault."

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

if by "fault" you mean they presented my_detailed_criminal_conspiracy.txt to the jury, that surely is a miscarriage of justice

i mean how can you believe such a document taken directly from the laptop that was snatched literally from my son's hands could be ever credible

something something bittorrent, okay

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

it feels like we were all praying for death on page 999 just a little while ago

time flies when you are having fun whatching libertarians bankrupt themselves liking how

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

surebet posted:

her entire narrative boils down to mark did it and antonopoulos could've proved it

i do admit that i'm a little disappointed he didn't get the chance to make an rear end out of himself at the trial, but whatevs

i cannot loving wait for the novel "if karpeles did it," written under the pseudonym andreas antonopoulos by one mark karpeles

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
thanks mods:toot:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



markscrimes.txt

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Boxturret posted:

thanks mods:toot:

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

hooray, a new thread title

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

who said i'm asleep at the wheel

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

who said i'm asleep at the wheel

Come back to the NBA threads, we miss you :(

Or am I not allowed to mention sports in yos?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

who said i'm asleep at the wheel

much love, swsp

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

The Glumslinger posted:

Come back to the NBA threads, we miss you :(
i work during the evenings so i almost never get to see a game. weekends are eaten up by school stuff, so i can't even catch sunday games

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

i work during the evenings so i almost never get to see a game. weekends are eaten up by school stuff, so i can't even catch sunday games

Who said knowledge or watching games ever matter in having opinions about sports

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

i work during the evenings so i almost never get to see a game. weekends are eaten up by school stuff, so i can't even catch sunday games

plus that rear end in a top hat cat of yours

text editor
Jan 8, 2007

Magrov posted:

wake up sheeple, for the man with guns is coming for you

evoorhees has made so many goddamn whiny posts about the Bitlicense thing in the past few weeks, he's really bent up about it

regulation is the only thing that can make that ghoul feel emotion

Rusty Rickshaw
Apr 30, 2008
Mark Karpeles peering over a hundred-foot wall, looking down on a horrified Ross Ulbricht.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

surebet posted:

Lyn Ulbricht, spoke to CNN Money, maintaining her son's innocence. "The most frustrating thing is that evidence that is favorable to Ross is being suppressed," she told CNN. "This came out in the cross examination for the first witness."

Internet freedom and privacy ARE AT STAKE. The outcome of this case will IMPACT YOUR LIFE, particularly if you deal drugs, guns and child porn and pay to have dudes and their roommates murdered. DONATE NOW! Supported by Lyn Ulbricht! Free copy of if_i_did_it.txt to all subscribers!

text editor posted:

evoorhees has made so many goddamn whiny posts about the Bitlicense thing in the past few weeks, he's really bent up about it
regulation is the only thing that can make that ghoul feel emotion

But business in NY can't possibly compete if it has to keep thinking up new excuses!

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I also got into a Twitter argument with him when he trotted out the old "in 1994 everyone thought the Internet was a fad!"

I mean goddamn man it's been 8 loving years by your logic we should be in Internet circa 2002 levels of adoption by now

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



FCKGW posted:

I also got into a Twitter argument with him when he trotted out the old "in 1994 everyone thought the Internet was a fad!"

In 1998, my BBS crowd was on the "internet can't replace BBSes because it's not localized, so no one knows each other", plan. By 2000, they were on the "dial in to BBSes when both you and the sysop weren't playing eq" plan.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Necronomiconomist posted:

you can go listen to Ross's mom talk on Friday about how arresting her son violated the Constitution!



* add to my shed

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
By the way, Voat's claim that Hosteurope kicked them off for quote "political incorrect parts that are unacceptable for us" (so KEEP THE BITCOINS COMING) made enough trouble for Hosteurope that they put up a page calling Voat out on their BS. In German and English.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

TVarmy posted:

this is gentlemen.

Fixed your poor imitation of a bitcoiner.

text editor
Jan 8, 2007

divabot posted:

By the way, Voat's claim that Hosteurope kicked them off for quote "political incorrect parts that are unacceptable for us" (so KEEP THE BITCOINS COMING) made enough trouble for Hosteurope that they put up a page calling Voat out on their BS. In German and English.

quote:

...

The site in questions was publicizing incitement of people, as well as abusive, insulting and youth-endangering content. They were clearly against the law and did not allow Host Europe to continue hosting such content to the public. Host Europe will also pass on information to the relevant authorities if it deems this necessary or appropriate.
We want to emphasize the fact that the suspension of our services is only the last step in a process. Host Europe does and always will try to find a solution together with our customers. However for this mutual trust from both sides is a main requirement. As this was not existent in the current case, we had to take these steps.
Host Europe wants to make clear that we will not tolerate any form of illegal right-wing extremist content and we explicitly distance ourselves from this.



lol good for them

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
you know who else censored content he thought would corrupt youths?

poik007
Aug 16, 2006
Thinks Mother 3 is the best game ever

Boxturret posted:

thanks mods:toot:

thods

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

"youth endangering" eu laws are however p lol

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33237519

i mean really now

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
Okay this is probably either one of the stupidest decisions of my life or it may just be the only redeeming thing I have ever done. So you all know about "Silk Road" (the defunct online drug market that was shut down in oct13). The man sentenced to life for running it (Ross Ulbricht), is not the only guy who ran it. I dont think he was too involved at all. I have since moved and the person I am about to talk about has gone ghost as well so here it goes:

I spent a few months dating this guy (considerably older) who was probably running the website for 80% of the time. He was always online logged in and many times in-front of me not only used the Dread Pirate Roberts account, but also chatted with who I now believe was the Ulbricht boy. My former SO often joked that this "kid" was essentially his robot and worshipped him. I know he had probably over 2,500 bitcoins at one point. I saw other things that he is stupid for flaunting, such as his conversations that he would decrypt and save to USB drives as "insurance" (his words) of him discussing things with police. Either he was an informant or he had them working for him. I think both. I know for a period of about 8 or 9 months that Ulbricht had not logged into the site portal because my ex-SO became paranoid that the guy might have been arrested or killed or turned informant. he pops back up and they start chatting like old buddies, supposedly he was hanging out with family and having personal problems.

I dont know the specifics and have never told a soul. When they arrested this boy, my ex took off. Said he was going to visit his parents and lay low for a bit, and then abruptly vanished. I did see him as "last online X hours ago" on Whatsapp here and there, so thankfully he's not dead or in jail.. I think.

For those who might think I could be getting him in trouble and Im being a bitch/vengeful/rat. No I aint. He's not a US citizen and is most likely not in the US.

TLDR/ELI5: Ross Ulbricht was definetly not "The Dread Pirate Roberts" as much as he was accused of. That would impossible. He sure is paying the price for it though. May God make this guys situation better one day, he's pain a price for poo poo he wasnt too vested in.

pylb
Sep 22, 2010

"The superfluous, a very necessary thing"
stdh

but if it did shes talking about vj

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

text editor posted:

Okay this is probably either one of the stupidest decisions of my life or it may just be the only redeeming thing I have ever done. So you all know about "Silk Road" (the defunct online drug market that was shut down in oct13). The man sentenced to life for running it (Ross Ulbricht), is not the only guy who ran it. I dont think he was too involved at all. I have since moved and the person I am about to talk about has gone ghost as well so here it goes:

I spent a few months dating this guy (considerably older) who was probably running the website for 80% of the time. He was always online logged in and many times in-front of me not only used the Dread Pirate Roberts account, but also chatted with who I now believe was the Ulbricht boy. My former SO often joked that this "kid" was essentially his robot and worshipped him. I know he had probably over 2,500 bitcoins at one point. I saw other things that he is stupid for flaunting, such as his conversations that he would decrypt and save to USB drives as "insurance" (his words) of him discussing things with police. Either he was an informant or he had them working for him. I think both. I know for a period of about 8 or 9 months that Ulbricht had not logged into the site portal because my ex-SO became paranoid that the guy might have been arrested or killed or turned informant. he pops back up and they start chatting like old buddies, supposedly he was hanging out with family and having personal problems.

I dont know the specifics and have never told a soul. When they arrested this boy, my ex took off. Said he was going to visit his parents and lay low for a bit, and then abruptly vanished. I did see him as "last online X hours ago" on Whatsapp here and there, so thankfully he's not dead or in jail.. I think.

For those who might think I could be getting him in trouble and Im being a bitch/vengeful/rat. No I aint. He's not a US citizen and is most likely not in the US.

TLDR/ELI5: Ross Ulbricht was definetly not "The Dread Pirate Roberts" as much as he was accused of. That would impossible. He sure is paying the price for it though. May God make this guys situation better one day, he's pain a price for poo poo he wasnt too vested in.

a post by the legendary canadian girlfriend

InShaneee
Aug 11, 2006

Cleanse them. Cleanse the world of their ignorance and sin. Bathe them in the crimson of ... am I on speakerphone?
Fun Shoe
I'm Spartacus! i used to date spartacus!

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

text editor posted:

Host Europe wants to make clear that we will not tolerate any form of illegal right-wing extremist content and we explicitly distance ourselves from this.

I guess /v/hitlerdidnothingwrong wouldn't be legal to host in Germany. There was probably a /v/hitlerdidnothingwrong, right?

Soricidus posted:

you know who else censored content he thought would corrupt youths?

Hitler? Did he actually do this?

text editor posted:

I know he had probably over 2,500 bitcoins at one point.

The guy who had about 1% (I think?) of the number of bitcoins Ross did is obviously the real drug kingpin.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Necronomiconomist posted:

you can go listen to Ross's mom talk on Friday about how arresting her son violated the Constitution!


i am especially interested in that last point they listed - 'why you should care'

yes, i'll gladly learn why prosecuting somebody who constructed and oversaw an internaitonal drug trade network is a reason for concern

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Soricidus posted:

you know who else censored content he thought would corrupt youths?

lowtax?

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Buttcoin purse posted:

I guess /v/hitlerdidnothingwrong wouldn't be legal to host in Germany. There was probably a /v/hitlerdidnothingwrong, right?

they had a subredditvoat devoted to a mountain dew flavor? :confused:

poik007
Aug 16, 2006
Thinks Mother 3 is the best game ever
what if the real DPR lived in Brazil

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

poik007 posted:

what if the real DPR lived in Brazil

spunk road

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Palpek posted:

i am especially interested in that last point they listed - 'why you should care'

You should care because :siren: THE GOVERNMENT PROSECUTES CITIZENS :siren:

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Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!

Buttcoin purse posted:

:siren: THE GOVERNMENT PROSECUTES CITIZENS :siren:

hosed up if true

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