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Humphreys posted:Only bad if you are the local drug dealer Maybe he lives in the Appalachians where everyone's a local drug dealer.
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Star Man is from...Wyoming I think? I watched his Descent Let's Plays. Somewhere out west where the population density is ridiculously low.
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Woolie Wool posted:Star Man is from...Wyoming I think? I watched his Descent Let's Plays. Somewhere out west where the population density is ridiculously low. I am from Wyoming (though I live in Denver now). And I'm from a town of 10,000 people. It's only a small town compared to something like a major city. But my sister went to high school in the next town over, with a population under 700 and her graduating class was only 26 people.
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Star Man posted:I am from Wyoming (though I live in Denver now). And I'm from a town of 10,000 people. It's only a small town compared to something like a major city. Regardless of how large 10k might be compared to "Bob's house is also the gas station, post office, general store, and town hall"-type towns that dot the west, 10k is pretty small even compared to Casper's nearly 60k (which is not a major city by any stretch of the imagination).
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Magnus Praeda posted:Regardless of how large 10k might be compared to "Bob's house is also the gas station, post office, general store, and town hall"-type towns that dot the west, 10k is pretty small even compared to Casper's nearly 60k (which is not a major city by any stretch of the imagination). Maybe. My perspective might be warped.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:58
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Star Man posted:Maybe. My perspective might be warped. I'm from a county with a population of 56,000. Actual cities seem unfathomably huge and dense to me so yes it does change your perspective.
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Living in North Dakota has taught me that this isn't just a matter of perspective. A town of 10K or 20K people around here will probably have its own airport and hospital, and maybe even a university, and be the biggest metro area in a 50-mile radius. I realize that there aren't very many people living there and it is not "big," but it's also not the same sort of small village that a town that size would be in a more populated state.
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I bought a CD for the first time in two years. Fight me, nerds.
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Star Man posted:I bought a CD for the first time in two years. Fight me, nerds. Depends on the CD. What was it? There are still reasons to buy those.
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Jun 28, 2015 04:23
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Ultimate Mango posted:Depends on the CD. What was it? Something that I could have settled with buying a digital copy from CDBaby: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dougwood2
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Jun 28, 2015 04:36
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Star Man posted:I bought a CD for the first time in two years. Fight me, nerds. Me too. I got a couple last week cos they were cheap and the car I drive for work is from that dark time before car stereos had aux/usb inputs. E: I also live in Japan where record stores are still big business. Apparently part of the reason is that record companies have figured out how to milk creepy nerds: give exclusives to people who buy the cd. Now there's otakus who buy boxes full of Jpop idols' cds just to get the chance to meet them in person and things like that. 1000 Brown M and Ms has a new favorite as of 04:44 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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I wait with dread for the CD revival. Not to say there weren't some pretty bonkers designs out there, like the B&O sliding disc player or the SONY D-88.   B&O are an interesting contender to look at in the world of design. There's an argument that since Apple made "high end" design to the masses combined with the GFC, they've lost out on a good chunk of their market as they struggle to fill that gap between creating sound systems. Not to say they don't create incredibly beautiful things, but at times they border on impractical, like their BeoRemote - it's incredibly long. At least they have the foresight to create a remote app. But they're really fascinating to look at as they've begun to accept the times and move into a very high end niche that's evoking the 20's.
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Nothing beats coming away from a garage sale with a stacked handful of possibly good CDs that you got for a couple bucks altogether 
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Star Man posted:Something that I could have settled with buying a digital copy from CDBaby: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dougwood2 That looks totally awesome! CDs will have some use for some time I think.
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sweeperbravo posted:Nothing beats coming away from a garage sale with a stacked handful of possibly good CDs that you got for a couple bucks altogether
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The neatest part about the BeoSound 9000 (apart from the name) is that when it's done playing, it will put your CD the same way up as when you originally put it in.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Me too. I got a couple last week cos they were cheap and the car I drive for work is from that dark time before car stereos had aux/usb inputs. Also, at least when I was in Tokyo, there is soooooooo much underground music and 80% of it you just can't find online or on streaming services. Several times we'd see some band at a Live House and later only be able to find like one song on a random youtube account for them but you'd be able to pop into the right record stores and buy CD's. But the Tokyo music scene is it's own horrible monster. If you like live rock n roll, and have any amount of free time, Tokyo will devour you. It's like New York/London in the 70's. On any given saturday there is probably a hundred plus shows going on across all the different parts of Tokyo and the train runs late and the concerts are cheap. I spent basically all my time in Japan sleeping through the day so we could hit bars in Kabukicho at night and go to live shows. Also the quality of music found in your average random band playing in a Tokyo basement is unreasonably high. It probably has to do with how good music education is in their public schools but still. And because it's Japan, practically every show is recorded on decent equipment with pretty good sound quality.
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Had a customer (cuntstermer) today going off his nut that the stuff we have is 'Made in China'. FFS everything is either China or Korea these days especially in Consumer Electronics. (except Japan for *quality* according to the elderly customer). I did have to remind him that 30 years ago he probably spat on anything that was made in Japan too.
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True. Japan is surprisingly behind the times when it comes to so many aspects of modern technology. I'd love to ditch cds completely and have everything digital or, if I'm feeling snobby and collector-y, on vinyl, but that's really hard in Japan. I live in Osaka, which isn't nearly as large as Tokyo but it still has a healthy music scene. I'd love to sleep all day and go to gigs at night but unfortunately having a job and a girlfriend preclude that. E: @Humphreys: I'd say Korea has equalled or even surpassed Japan in terms of consumer electronics and appliances, specifically Samsung and LG. They're both very popular brands in my home country. I don't have any numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if they were at least as popular as established Japanese brands like Panasonic and Mitsubishi. 1000 Brown M and Ms has a new favorite as of 11:35 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:I'd love to ditch cds completely and have everything digital I know what you meant, but it still annoys me when people say stuff like this. "Digital download" is even worse.
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So what should I say? Not being a dick, genuinely curious since I thought 'digital' was the proper way to say it.
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It's redundant, so just say "download" or "streaming" or whichever solution you use. CDs are digital, so saying "CD or digital" is kinda senseless. And by definition, if you can download it, it's digital. There is literally no way for a download to be anything other than digital.
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I see, cheers. So in my case it would be 'downloaded' and 'ripped'. Still, I would have thought 'digital' is a good catchall term for any kind of music that doesn't require a physical medium.
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Too bad it's industry standard to call it ''digital download.''
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:E: @Humphreys: I'd say Korea has equalled or even surpassed Japan in terms of consumer electronics and appliances, specifically Samsung and LG. They're both very popular brands in my home country. I don't have any numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if they were at least as popular as established Japanese brands like Panasonic and Mitsubishi. Sorry, I think my point was lost in my rush to post. Yeah I sell a LOT of LG/Samsung and seeing that Samsung build every drat component from raw material through subsidiaries I think I trust their build quality. THe customer though had that "oh its not made in japan? must be poo poo' mentality that if you traveled through time to the same guy 30-40 years ago had the same complaint about Japan. Country borders I feel are not a limiting factor on quality anymore.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:I see, cheers. So in my case it would be 'downloaded' and 'ripped'. CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays etc. are physical digital media, though. ravenkult posted:Too bad it's industry standard to call it ''digital download.'' That doesn't make it less stupid. I know a lot of people are trying to make "I've got it on digital" happen, but it's just dumb and sounds stupid. Music has been digitally distributed since the early 1980s, people should stop trying to make a buzzword out of it. Downloading implies digital distribution, it's just mindless redundant word salad to insist on saying both. As soon as it's digital (CD, download, whatever), the format is irrelevant, until you apply compression. Then you can just say "MP3s" or "Oggs" or "FLACs" etc. Yes, I am opiniated about these things, because I was doing this stuff before it got all blown up and popular, damnit  KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 12:58 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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KozmoNaut posted:CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays etc. are physical digital media, though. Honestly I see it mostly when you buy an album or something and they want to give you the mp3s too. What are they gonna say ''Download included''? Download of what? ''Mp3 included'' isn't bad, but it makes it sound like the mp3 is in the CD. Thus, Digital Download.
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"Album download included" would work just fine. All of the LPs I've bought that included a download code have simply said "download code included" in the description and on a sticker, with a URL to access the download site. There are so many other terms to use that make a hell of a lot more sense than "digital download", which is just complete nonsense.
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If you don't write digital, people might actually think they can download the actual CD. Or a car, which you wouldn't do, would you?
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And what about "organic" food? We're all. Carbon-based goddammit! Even worse in Netherlands, France and Germany, where they call it "biological" food.
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Lurking Haro posted:If you don't write digital, people might actually think they can download the actual CD.
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Humphreys posted:Sorry, I think my point was lost in my rush to post. Yeah I sell a LOT of LG/Samsung and seeing that Samsung build every drat component from raw material through subsidiaries I think I trust their build quality. THe customer though had that "oh its not made in japan? must be poo poo' mentality that if you traveled through time to the same guy 30-40 years ago had the same complaint about Japan. Country borders I feel are not a limiting factor on quality anymore. Gotcha. It's interesting how perceptions can change like that. For a long time, Samsung (and possibly other Korean companies) played down their Korean roots because they were afraid other countries would think their products weren't good. It worked on me at least. It was a while until I figured out that Samsung and Hyundai were Korean, not Japanese. KozmoNaut posted:CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays etc. are physical digital media, though. True, I hadn't considered CDs, etc being digital. It begs the question though, what is a general word for music that you don't own on a disk or tape of some kind (ie, on your computer/phone/MP3 player)? What word do you use for "I've got it on X" where X is any combination of devices, format/compression and method of acquisition? Especially when you don't know or can't remember exactly what combination for a given track/album?
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I was working for a place that started offering Digital eDownloads. I wanted to shoot myself every time I saw or heard that phrase.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:It begs the question though, what is a general word for music that you don't own on a disk or tape of some kind (ie, on your computer/phone/MP3 player)? What word do you use for "I've got it on X" where X is any combination of devices, format/compression and method of acquisition? Especially when you don't know or can't remember exactly what combination for a given track/album? Well, if it's on a streaming service, I figure you'd just use the name of that service. People generally don't refer to albums on streaming services as something they own, so saying "hey, that new album by [artist] is on Spotify, check it out" is the most likely. If you have the actual tracks downloaded or ripped, but not on physical spinny-plastic media, it's true that there is no catchall term for that. Then again, all storage media types are physical in one form or another, which further blurs the lines. However, if someone says they own a particular album without specifying anything else, it's exceedingly likely to be in a digital format of some sort. Not that many years ago that would have meant an actual physical CD. These days it's much more likely to be a download from iTunes, Bandcamp or one of their competitors. On the other hand, if they have said album on LP, they will probably say "I've got the new album on vinyl". You don't say "I've got it on analog", because that sounds dumb. My point is that having albums as downloaded/ripped files is the standard, there's no reason to specifically mention it. Saying "I've got the new album by [artist]" implies the use of some digital audio format and storage as files on a digital devices. There's no reason to specify the fact that it's digital, because it's implied. E: Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Modern_usage KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 14:53 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:It begs the question though, what is a general word for music that you don't own on a disk or tape of some kind (ie, on your computer/phone/MP3 player)? What word do you use for "I've got it on X" where X is any combination of devices, format/compression and method of acquisition? Especially when you don't know or can't remember exactly what combination for a given track/album? “Electronic” It works for books and mail, even though those could quite reasonably be “digital books” and “digital mail”.
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Platystemon posted:“Electronic” Friend, I've got bad news.
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KozmoNaut posted:Words Fair enough. I guess these days you normally don't really need to specify exactly what format you own music in. I guess it's a bit like how you usually don't say what format you own software in. Platystemon posted:“Electronic” 'Electronic' is an even worse word than 'digital' in this context. No matter what format you own music in, you need an electronic device to play it.
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Does the iThing moniker count as horrid trends that really deserved to have been kept in the sack and drowned? It's actually older than it sounds, gracing the name of a online community for women back in 1994. Then Apple picked it to go alongside the new iMac in 1998 (apparently Jobs wanted to called it MacMan). It stood for internet, which made sense as the iMac was geared towards online connectivity, but later slid to mean "individual" when it expanded to their other lineups. And then everyone lept on the bandwagon, iCoke and so-forth. BogDew has a new favorite as of 16:09 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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Non Serviam posted:And what about "organic" food? We're all. Carbon-based goddammit! Even worse in Netherlands, France and Germany, where they call it "biological" food. 
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Collateral Damage posted:I saw an ad for "organic table salt". "Never treated with pesticides!" 
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