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Grandicap posted:Oh, it is about the MMT thing, I guess I shouldn't be surprised because it was the only thing I've done this game, but that was like a billion years ago now (actually Friday, but who's counting) When you say "I still think MMT is scummy", is this a result of you re-reading the game looking for scum? Do you have opinions on anything that happened since Friday? Also, the vig is a night action.
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Ahhh I missed a few posts that occurred before I posted that.Kumbamontu posted:anyway i'm going to bed soon and i think we should all vote birdstrike instead, but i will switch to Grandi before sleeping if that doesn't happen. Unless there is a very compelling case I'm staying on Grandicap. I don't think he's scumhunting and I think his reads on me are an attempt to keep up appearances.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:22
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No it is not a result of me rereading the game looking for scum, it is a case of me rereading my interaction with you and still agreeing with my assessment of the situation. I should probably reread the game but with 3 hours to deadline and a whole bunch of people checking out because of a 2am deadline on Sunday I'm not feeling very hopeful. I mean, I could push a lynch on Kumba because he is the next closest to me in vote count, I should probably do that, but in my read I ddin't really see what was up there. Actually let me do that because a me lynch would make me sad and possibly make me cry.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:26
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Murmur Twin posted:Ahhh I missed a few posts that occurred before I posted that. No argument here on the scumhunting thing, but that is because it is a timing thing at the moment rather than a me not going to do scumhunting this game thing.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:27
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I would definitely switch to Birdstrike before Grandi, would also go for MMT.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:28
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I see no real case worth voting on Kumba. That is not going to stop me from voting him however. I think the biggest thing against him is that he made a case on bird but had a throwaway thing about me too, a fall back for the vote leader. Giving him the ability to drop a vote on me if the need arises. But d1 and the other option is me, not going to feel bad about ##vote Kumba
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Jun 29, 2015 03:31
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Hal Incandenza posted:I would definitely switch to Birdstrike before Grandi, would also go for MMT. unfortunately I don't think there are enough people around to swing to Birdstrike at this point judging by activity and how late it is already
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Jun 29, 2015 03:32
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I would do birdstrike if we have the numbers.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:32
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That is very sensible play Grandicap
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Jun 29, 2015 03:32
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Grandicap posted:I would do birdstrike if we have the numbers. you and hal would make 4, that's halfway there not sure we have 4 more though
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Jun 29, 2015 03:33
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I guess it's not just Auspol that's xenophobic 
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Jun 29, 2015 03:34
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this is not a hate crime
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Jun 29, 2015 03:35
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I'm not feeling Grandi or Kumba either. Would vote birdstrike.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:46
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Let's put some of these would votes into actual votes, ##vote birdstrike
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Jun 29, 2015 03:49
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Pray tell, why is the triad of leaders voting each other in a circle? I'm going to bed shortly, but I'm fine voting any of the three. What's the case of Birdstrike over Grandi?
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Jun 29, 2015 04:00
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What the hell is even going on
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Jun 29, 2015 04:03
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Birdstrike posted:It's Day 1 and we have virtually no information. The information we do have comes from some educated guesses about the setup but doesn't point to anything about alignment. Birdstrike in this post says nothing and then votes me. Says go for a random vote and hops on the vote leader. Says some anti no lynch stuff when at the time a no lynch was not close to being in the cards. Also birdstrike is not Grandicap so that is another big reason for it being a good vote.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:06
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Please don't tell me that people weren't thinking about deadline when I can quote posts like this:Hal Incandenza posted:So yeah , how about that deadline?
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Jun 29, 2015 04:09
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OmegaGoo posted:Pray tell, why is the triad of leaders voting each other in a circle? so you think that all three of them are scum? which one do you want to vote most, which one least?
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Jun 29, 2015 04:11
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Birdstrike posted:Please don't tell me that people weren't thinking about deadline when I can quote posts like this: THinking about it being a lovely deadline, super late on a weekend is how I interpreted it rather than concern about it's impendingness.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:14
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:What the hell is even going on As far as I can tell, three factions popped up in response to MMT's initial probe, and they're all leading a lynch on someone right now. Considering my reads, I'm concerned about all three lynches! The one thing I can say though, is I agree that birdstrike looks worse than Grandi right now. Little Mac and Opo, while not on the chopping block yet, look the most suspicious to me on the followup, which makes me worried about a birdstrike lynch. You've got 10 minutes to get my vote, otherwise I'm sleeping and I can't change it. (Not an ultimatum strategy, I literally am going to bed in 10 minutes) EXAKT Science posted:so you think that all three of them are scum? which one do you want to vote most, which one least? Actually, truth be told, I don't like Kumba, but he's actually not on my scum-list right now. I'm "changing" my opinion here because for some reason I thought he had voted Grandi, but I realized I got him mixed up with Opo for some silly reason. I don't like Grandi or Birdstrike. Birdstrike's posts have been noncommital while still containing votes. In essence, a bunch of words meaning nothing, but still highly effective. Grandi jumped on an obvious joke and maintained his position for a while. His return has raised his position slightly, but I'm still disliking him.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:16
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I've generally thought claiming d1 is poor form but y'all are weird so: I am town oracle. Words I am committed to in a post which doesn't contain a vote.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:21
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OmegaGoo posted:As far as I can tell, three factions popped up in response to MMT's initial probe, and they're all leading a lynch on someone right now. Considering my reads, I'm concerned about all three lynches! Explain this logic, still highly effective? Blind voting is not highly effective. It actively demonstrates his intent to not get involved in the game and instead make votes based on next to nothing.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:22
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Ghastly Gangsta posted:Explain this logic, still highly effective? Blind voting is not highly effective. It actively demonstrates his intent to not get involved in the game and instead make votes based on next to nothing. Sorry, a vote on a bandwagon is "highly effective" in that it gets things accomplished. Not necessarily good things, but mechanically speaking, it's important.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:23
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Birdstrike posted:I've generally thought claiming d1 is poor form but y'all are weird so: I am town oracle. Anyone going to counter claim?
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Jun 29, 2015 04:25
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Birdstrike posted:I've generally thought claiming d1 is poor form but y'all are weird so: I am town oracle. You only have three votes on you, why did you claim? That's a weird reaction.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:26
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Nobody agrees with me about oxidation? Well anyway, I don't care why EXAKT is voting for Kumba. I'm voting for him for the right reasons and you guys should too.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:27
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Nobody agrees with me about oxidation? Well here's the thing, if I continue to vote for Grandi, I'm agreeing with Oxidation, and therefore disagree with you on Oxi. I don't disagree with you on Oxi. I do disagree with you on Kumba. ##unvote
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Jun 29, 2015 04:30
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No GG, what's weird is being told that the actions one takes on D1 to generate tangible data to be tested - y'know, a voting record, is scummy. Also, did you not think the rolecop and cop claims which were made without any votes on them were weird? Are you upset that I put a vote on you before?
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Jun 29, 2015 04:32
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Dammit, the only logical conclusion I can reach with what just happened there that I am comfortable with and isn't effectively an abstain (which we really don't want) is the following: ##vote Birdstrike
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Jun 29, 2015 04:33
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Nobody agrees with me about oxidation? I could see oxidation as newbie scum, but regardless, I don't want to vote him today due to his being a newbie. OmegaGoo is also pinging me, but again, newbie and so don't want to vote him today. However, his read on Kumba makes me feel good about where I have my vote.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:34
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Birdstrike posted:No GG, what's weird is being told that the actions one takes on D1 to generate tangible data to be tested - y'know, a voting record, is scummy. tangible data to be tested??? Let me setup the algorithm to run the computations so we can test your data. Votes don't inherently have to be scummy, it's how they're placed and the motivation behind them that makes the scummy. In your case you place them with little knowledge or conviction and set up a "D1 cases are weird" comment so you can defer to that instead of trying to explain legitimate scummy actions.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:36
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Everyone is tied, I'm going to bed and leaving my vote where it is. Goodnight!
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Jun 29, 2015 04:39
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Ghastly Gangsta posted:tangible data to be tested??? Let me setup the algorithm to run the computations so we can test your data. Votes don't inherently have to be scummy, it's how they're placed and the motivation behind them that makes the scummy. In your case you place them with little knowledge or conviction and set up a "D1 cases are weird" comment so you can defer to that instead of trying to explain legitimate scummy actions. How do you even play this game? Setting up town to either no-lynch or mislynch is a key part of how scum succeed. You can't determine these things without a voting record. Voting records aren't perfect and they aren't determinative, but they're a good way of showing who might not be acting in the best interests of town.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:39
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I'm not voting for myself, and I think we should vote for someone. ##vote Kumbamontu You can vote for me if you want, I just hope that you'll recognise some of the logic in my position regarding d1 when I flip town. The main thing I guess is that scum don't have their governor role.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:42
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Nobody agrees with me about oxidation? oxidation just seems like someone who isn't comfortable posting yet I don't think there is enough there to say they are scummy
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Jun 29, 2015 04:46
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Kumba is definitely the best choice of these three options, people should switch to him. My instincts are pretty good about this stuff. I'm sure Birdstrike is the oracle, and claiming so early felt more town than scum to me.
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Jun 29, 2015 04:51
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LM and MMM aren't voting :|
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Jun 29, 2015 04:55
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EXAKT Science posted:LM and MMM aren't voting :| They are bad people
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I misread the deadline time - I thought it was 2pm my time (ie now).
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