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Non Serviam posted:You feel that it would be more secure to have a minimum wage employee at the post office offer your confidential e-mail and scan it for you?
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It's not that hard to say "most things" instead of "everything". Let's stop this derail.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:How do people not get that these forums have been--since day 1--populated by shittons of cynical, sarcastic people who are very fond of hyperbole? Nominal (in regards to space). Totally a brain fart by some NASA launch staff member, mixing up normal and optimal. Really, absolutely, definitely not lying.
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Collateral Damage posted:No, a machine. I feel that it'd be an unnecessary middleman though. Why not just send it electronically from the start?
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:How do people not get that these forums have been--since day 1--populated by shittons of cynical, sarcastic people who are very fond of hyperbole? Actually on day 1, we were all pretty happy go lucky folks, bright eyed and ready for knowledge and adventure. Then we found out the OED was an elaborate hoax from 1chan, and the whole thing fell apart.
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Non Serviam posted:I feel that it'd be an unnecessary middleman though. Why not just send it electronically from the start?
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Jerry Cotton posted:I've never heard anyone say "atomic bomb", just "atom bomb". Really? The term considerably predates the actual construction of the bombs themselves: H.G. Wells posted:Certainly it seems now that nothing could have been more obvious to the people of the earlier twentieth century than the rapidity with which war was becoming impossible. And as certainly they did not see it. They did not see it until the atomic bombs burst in their fumbling hands. And this is pretty much the definitive popular text on the Manhattan Project: http://www.amazon.com/The-Making-Atomic-Bomb-Anniversary/dp/1451677618 Phanatic has a new favorite as of 15:17 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yeah I almost forgot LAME. PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor. Nerds lover recursive acronyms.
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WINE: Wine Is Not an Emulator (except it is, technically)
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thespaceinvader posted:PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor. They are genetically predisposed to repeating the same unfunny jokes for generations (see: The cake is a lie)
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Slanderer posted:They are genetically predisposed to repeating the same unfunny jokes for generations (see:
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DigitalRaven posted:Edinburgh has a similar thing, with a time ball on top of the Nelson Monument for ships in the Port of Leith and the Firth of Forth. But what to do when the fog obscures it? One thing that I find hilarious, many of these time cannons around the world have Twitter accounts. They, of course, use these to tweet BANG or BOOM at exactly noon, every day.
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Capn Jobe posted:One thing that I find hilarious, many of these time cannons around the world have Twitter accounts. They, of course, use these to tweet BANG or BOOM at exactly noon, every day. @big_ben_clock is better 
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:How do people not get that these forums have been--since day 1--populated by shittons of cynical, sarcastic people who are very fond of hyperbole? I never said all etymologies, I said all etymologies you fuckers have ever read or heard of. And I stand by my words.
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So correct etymologies are some sort of arcane and forbidden knowledge that are impossible for any goon to know? I stand by my words too.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:So correct etymologies are some sort of arcane and forbidden knowledge that are impossible for any goon to know? I stand by my words too. Jesus christ, shut up. You're just like the faux-prima donna I work with (soon to be former co-worker, thank god). Overcome by the need to be right and denying things like context exist. And you always *have* to have the last word. Non-derail: I really miss when computers were like the original Apples. I remember you used to get a manual with *all* CPU machine code, memory locations and schematics included. The Commodore 64 Programmer's Guide came with the same stuff. 
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:This is my childhood. Wooooord. C64 at home, then 8086/386/486, but I loved those school Apple computers. Oregon Trail, some knockoff of Centipede, typing class was just "figure out how to run other poo poo than the typing tutor"
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flosofl posted:I really miss when computers were like the original Apples. I remember you used to get a manual with *all* CPU machine code, memory locations and schematics included. The Commodore 64 Programmer's Guide came with the same stuff. Perhaps, but think of how big that would be for a modern PC.  There's a slight problem. The manual won't fit in the packaging, because it came out to 800 pounds. You mean 800 pages? No. I mean 800 pounds. You need ten men to carry it.
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Woolie Wool posted:Perhaps, but think of how big that would be for a modern PC. Why can't they be on disks? It should be doable in one to two... ..hundred floppies.
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Woolie Wool posted:Perhaps, but think of how big that would be for a modern PC. Military contracts still have that as a requirement. There are warehouses full of that poo poo.
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Woolie Wool posted:Perhaps, but think of how big that would be for a modern PC. I bet if you printed out all the EULAs for a modern PC, loaded with a typical suite of software, you're looking at a similar weight.
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Also, the Intel programmers manuals* are quite something. They document in exacting detail all aspects of programming for a modern x86/ia64 CPU, covering the full instruction set, the different modes (and their memory models), how the VM system works, interrupt handling, the SMP system, the virtualization system, and in general everything you would need to build an OS for one ... well, except for the hardware drivers. I haven't looked at the documentation for their other hardware, so I can only hope it's comparably useful. Of course, this isn't obsolete tech, apart from some of the real mode madness which will probably slowly fade into obscurity as EFI booting takes over. Given what little real mode assembly I've done, it won't be missed. They used to send the books out for free (I have a copy of the system programing guide lying around somewhere), but it's free PDF / cheap print on demand now. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/architectures-software-developer-manuals.html * Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer Manuals, sorry. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 10:11 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Kinda OT, but did anybody else watch the AMC shitshow Halt and Catch Fire and see the episode with the Macintosh reveal where they faked CRT glow with CG and then you whipped a bottle at your TV?
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Some good news: In the European Union roaming charges, for both Internet and phone, will soon be an obsolete thing. Yessssssssssss http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5265_en.htm
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Copper Vein posted:Kinda OT, but did anybody else watch the AMC shitshow Halt and Catch Fire and see the episode with the Macintosh reveal where they faked CRT glow with CG and then you whipped a bottle at your TV? I got about 10 minutes into the pilot of that show before I hosed off... The scene with the hot punk-geek girl did it for me. I'm a loving geezer, I lived all that poo poo. There were NO hot punk-geek girls, trust me. Not to sound like some gamergate fucktard, but it was a loving sausagefest in those days.
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SLOSifl posted:Halt and Catch Fire is pretty good though. It is sooo good. I initially started watching it a few months ago when Silicon Valley S2 started back up and I wanted something """""similar""""". I had only heard bad things about H&CF so it took me a while to reluctantly give it a chance. I basically fell in love with the show right away. Everything clicked for me. I don't really have any critiques, I just like the characters and the setting way too much. It would have been so loving weird to be on the cutting edge of building a computer back then. I even liked the big business Cardiff Electric stuff, but I guess it had to go. I guess I am glad I put off watching it because the wait for season 2 would have been brutal.
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flosofl posted:Non-derail: There is a similar thing with car enthusiasts. Many prefer to work on older Cameros and Mustangs because the parts are simple and widely available, and the car works in an intuitive way. Modern cars are a lot more complex and often require specialized equipment to do anything beyond basic maintenance. Of course, a car built with 1960s technology will still get you from point A to point B, but a Commodore 64 serves no useful purpose today.
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Konstantin posted:There is a similar thing with car enthusiasts. Many prefer to work on older Cameros and Mustangs because the parts are simple and widely available, and the car works in an intuitive way. Modern cars are a lot more complex and often require specialized equipment to do anything beyond basic maintenance. Of course, a car built with 1960s technology will still get you from point A to point B, but a Commodore 64 serves no useful purpose today. George R.R. Martin apparently writes all his books on a DOS machine using WordStar 4.0 because it has no extraneous features and no distractions, and being unable to connect to the internet, is basically unhackable remotely.
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The_Raven posted:I got about 10 minutes into the pilot of that show before I hosed off... The scene with the hot punk-geek girl did it for me. I'm a loving geezer, I lived all that poo poo. There were NO hot punk-geek girls, trust me. Not to sound like some gamergate fucktard, but it was a loving sausagefest in those days. Its like you're mad that the show didn't consult you on what it was like to be you.
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Konstantin posted:but a Commodore 64 serves no useful purpose today. excuuuuuse me http://www.mssiah.com You know that people are still programming kick-rear end demos for this machine, right?
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A personal favourite of mine was the MiniDisc. It felt so futuristic around 2001 time, and I really did feel cool to own one. MP3 players were around, but the ones within my price range were capabe of holding like 10 songs or something daft and the technology of downloading songs for me was alien. I was convinced by marketing that the minidisc would "upgrade" my CD audio on transfer. I must have owend about 5 different players due to breakages - they wern't the most robust things.
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CoolCat posted:A personal favourite of mine was the MiniDisc. Mine lasted a long time. It got regular use until I had a decent hard-drive based MP3 player. Few things beat copying CDs to minidisc via optical in realtime.
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Konstantin posted:a Commodore 64 serves no useful purpose today. I just do not even Motherfucker what did you just say I'll tell you the useful purpose it serves in my household, as being a reminder of when computers were cool and not just gad-dang Facebook terminals, and furthermore
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CoolCat posted:A personal favourite of mine was the MiniDisc. I seem to remember a MiniDisc commercial where some guy sets up a halfpipe in his basement, turns on his MiniDisc player (could have been something else, but I'm pretty sure it was MD), drops in on his skateboard and embeds himself in the drop ceiling as soon as he comes up the other side while a narrator says something about how MiniDisc doesn't skip. I have been completely unable to find evidence of this commercial's existence.
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The_Raven posted:I got about 10 minutes into the pilot of that show before I hosed off... The scene with the hot punk-geek girl did it for me. I'm a loving geezer, I lived all that poo poo. There were NO hot punk-geek girls, trust me. Not to sound like some gamergate fucktard, but it was a loving sausagefest in those days. Don't worry, there's probably drug dealers that call bullshit on Breaking Bad too.
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