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The Kindle Edition Normalized Page Count seems to be skewing high for me. For one of my stories it looked like it was under 150 words per page. Not that this really matters, but I thought that was interesting.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 12:37 |
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I'm getting KENP now too. So far it looks like the reports don't show pages per book (let alone per borrow), you need to update the graph by selecting the per-book filter. Also doesn't show historical (i.e. pre-July 1st) pages data. e: Unrelated but I'm going through sales now and gently caress me the British love refunding books. Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 12:48 |
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As a brit Amazon should a advertise ku more. I had to try really hard to loving find it instead of "amazon prime trial" "have you tried amazon prime yet?" "Amazon prime, now with movies!!!" "You look like you want to sign up for amazon prime do you want me to help you with that". Most people don't even seem to know its a thing here I have to keep explaining its like netflix but books.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 13:37 |
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I'm previewing my book on Amazon KDP before putting it up, and the in-browser preview doesn't seem to like my table of contents bookmarking. Is this something to worry about or is the previewer kind of broken? I'm using Open Office with the file converted to .doc fyi.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 13:58 |
How big is your book? Are we talking a super romance of 30 pages or a novella or what? I've never put out a full book and I haven't bothered struggling with the TOC for a short title, it's just asking for trouble. I upload the word documents as-is for short titles but even with those the Amazon converter creates enough problems that my last title I swapped to an epub I created myself using Sigil, and future titles will be done the same way. Using word as anything other than an intermediary text editor/proofreader is mangled.. even then it creates more problems than it's worth, I find.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:02 |
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:As a brit Amazon should a advertise ku more. I had to try really hard to loving find it instead of "amazon prime trial" "have you tried amazon prime yet?" "Amazon prime, now with movies!!!" "You look like you want to sign up for amazon prime do you want me to help you with that".
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:11 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:How big is your book? Are we talking a super romance of 30 pages or a novella or what? I've never put out a full book and I haven't bothered struggling with the TOC for a short title, it's just asking for trouble. I upload the word documents as-is for short titles but even with those the Amazon converter creates enough problems that my last title I swapped to an epub I created myself using Sigil, and future titles will be done the same way. Using word as anything other than an intermediary text editor/proofreader is mangled.. even then it creates more problems than it's worth, I find. It's over 80k and the KDP page is telling me that Amazon requires anything with chapters to have an active table of contents so I'm just doing what it tells me. If I could just not bother with it and not worry about like the Kindle police coming for me I'd happily do that. Mr. Pumroy fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Jul 1, 2015 |
# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:13 |
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Mr. Pumroy posted:I'm previewing my book on Amazon KDP before putting it up, and the in-browser preview doesn't seem to like my table of contents bookmarking. Is this something to worry about or is the previewer kind of broken? Shoot me a pm, i can do a quick formatting job for you if the work is text only.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:17 |
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I think you're fine. I have a horror novel that's only a few thousand words shorter than yours with no TOC, and Amazon has never said bunk to me about it.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:18 |
I use D2D to generate my files, they make really nice TOCs without any issues. Just upload it to Draft2Digital, and when you get to the page to publish, download the .mobi file. Just don't click on the check box. Then go back to KDP and upload it there. Then the Kindle Police will leave you alone.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:20 |
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EngineerSean posted:Shoot me a pm, i can do a quick formatting job for you if the work is text only. It is. I've sent you a pm, meanwhile I'll look at D2D and see what it can do. Thanks for the help all.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:44 |
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D2d is exactly what I'm going to use so if you can use that, you'll have all the tools you need.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 14:49 |
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Oh okay, yeah I'm uploading it to D2D now. Thanks for the offer though, I appreciate it. edit: Yep, works like a charm. Mr. Pumroy fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jul 1, 2015 |
# ? Jul 1, 2015 15:00 |
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So I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by my KENPC page counts so far. They're about twice as many 'pages' as the actual Amazon page lists for the pagecount.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 15:36 |
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Popular Human posted:So I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by my KENPC page counts so far. They're about twice as many 'pages' as the actual Amazon page lists for the pagecount. I am not pleased, because I divide the page count by the average length of my stories and see a huge reduction in comparison to the previous borrows I'd have by this point of the day.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:06 |
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Sundae posted:I am not pleased, because I divide the page count by the average length of my stories and see a huge reduction in comparison to the previous borrows I'd have by this point of the day. You know that the average read rate of even the best books is like 60%, right? I mean, you're probably seeing a drop from that as well but I don't really follow sales closely throughout the day so I don't know where I stand.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:07 |
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Popular Human posted:So I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by my KENPC page counts so far. They're about twice as many 'pages' as the actual Amazon page lists for the pagecount. Also I'm probably gonna hulk out about this many times over the next month (just as I have for the past two weeks) but it doesn't matter how much your page count has been inflated/deflated by KENPC because everyone's has been inflated/deflated by roughly the same ratio
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:08 |
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And finally, some information from Amazonquote:As measured using KENPC, during the month of June, KU and KOLL customers read nearly 1.9 billion Kindle Edition Normalized Pages (KENPs) of KDP Select books. which means that a page would have been worth just over a half cent in June
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:11 |
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I'm looking at the pricing section, especially the KDP pricing support page and it says 2.99 is the optimal price for a book similar to mine. Is that something that applies for me since I'm a first time publisher? I've seen some back and forth here about 2.99 vs .99 and was just wondering where people would put me. I'll be putting the book on KU, fyi.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:17 |
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EngineerSean posted:And finally, some information from Amazon Oh. Oh gently caress.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:17 |
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One of my best selling erotica shorts is also one of my longest at 64 KANPECK pages, and it's in the lead for today so far (a Wednesday morning at 8 am PST so definitely not a lot of data but whatever). It's at 104 pages read so basically two people have read it and I should expect to get 60 cents for those two reads. If you're not pulling every short off of KDP Select that you have, you're asking for more abuse. I have two romance novels topping 10k pages read so far but if you think I'm happy with the $60 they're getting for their reads, I'm not.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:18 |
Didn't Amazon say that for the next month you could pull out of KDP Select at any point, without waiting for the 90 day thing to expire? Where are the options for that, I reckon I'll use this as an opportunity to try my stuff on other platforms now that I don't need it to be exclusive to Amazon.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:32 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Didn't Amazon say that for the next month you could pull out of KDP Select at any point, without waiting for the 90 day thing to expire? Where are the options for that, I reckon I'll use this as an opportunity to try my stuff on other platforms now that I don't need it to be exclusive to Amazon. Yeah. I'm out - I estimate I'm making just under 2/3rds of my revenue right now from KU and this just torches it. Where are you guys publishing, besides Barnes and Noble/Smashwords? Does Apple's eBooks thing generate a significant amount of sales?
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:37 |
quote:"It has come to our attention that you might have questions about removing your book from KDP Select due to the change in the way we'll be paying royalties for KU/KOLL borrows.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:38 |
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quote:You know that the average read rate of even the best books is like 60%, right? I mean, you're probably seeing a drop from that as well but I don't really follow sales closely throughout the day so I don't know where I stand. Yep, I'm aware. However, even when I account for that, I'm seeing a 90-95% decrease in royalties once that $0.0057 is accounted for. Time to send the net wide again if this stays like this over the next few days.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:39 |
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Popular Human posted:Yeah. I'm out - I estimate I'm making just under 2/3rds of my revenue right now from KU and this just torches it. Where are you guys publishing, besides Barnes and Noble/Smashwords? Does Apple's eBooks thing generate a significant amount of sales? I only make money on B&N, Apple and Kobo. Kobo and Apple are about the same, and they're about 10% of what B&N does.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:40 |
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I'm out of KU! It feels good. I would have been at about $40 for the day right now, and when I input the half cent figure into Book Report it showed I was just over $5. gently caress that. Selling everything for $3.00. I will be releasing one title in KU every week though to run free promos on. I think that may be the new use of KU, as a tool for promotion and getting your name out there, at the loss of nearly all profit on certain titles.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:41 |
Yeah I just sent a request via that link above asking them to remove all my titles from KDP Select. Copied in my ASINs in case they need an itemised list. Luckily (unluckily?) I'd never really gotten off my arse with the super romance and my titles were both few in number and poor performing, so I'm not hit too hard in terms of these changes. It's a decent incentive to switch things up and try something new, publish them on smashwords etc and start trying to move into full-length romance.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:45 |
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(All numbers here are assuming last month's $0.0057 remains true this month. This is subject to change, but even if it doubles, I still have problems.) At this time of day yesterday (and all of last week), I would have made approximately $150. Today, I am at less than $10.00 with the $0.0057 number. (1633 pages.) I'm giving it a few days just to rule out reporting issues / July 4th week issues / everyone else's numbers being crazy low too, but I'm going to be preparing my ASIN pull-out for every single book when I get home tonight. If the numbers are still ugly on Monday next week, I'm removing everything I have and going wide-net once more.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:48 |
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I am raging out that they used an example of ten cents per page. They used an example that is twenty times higher than what it really was, just so they could say, "Good news...!"
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:51 |
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So you have to write a 260-page book now (AND have it completely read) just to get the same $$$ you were making last month. Christ. I know that since it's a zero sum thing with the way Amazon hands out the fund that SOMEONE has to be making more money under this system, but who? Is there some cadre of authors writing 750-page fantasy novels with a rabid fanbase that I don't know about?
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:53 |
Don't rage too hard, it's a lovely, grease move - but that's Amazon for you. It got debunked pretty drat quick and I don't think anybody actually look it serious for longer than it took them to calculate 10c * 300pages in their head. Like EngineerSean says, it's a business, roll with the punches and get back to figuring out how to make it work for you. There's still money to be made, you might just have to shift away from KU. If Amazon keeps getting weirder or the porn demographic shifts, you might have to move to a whole new platform in time, but for now anger is just going to make you do stupid things (or give up hope). I'm going to finish some work I'm doing for a client and then start researching all those other platforms.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:55 |
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Well I'm mad, but I've already pulled out of KU and will be publishing to other stores this weekend.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 16:58 |
Popular Human posted:So you have to write a 260-page book now (AND have it completely read) just to get the same $$$ you were making last month. Christ. Two groups will make more money: Amazon, and people who write long long books that people love to read through to the end. At $0.005/page a 300 page book read through to the end will see $1.50, a slight increase from recent borrow rates. If Amazon kills off its short-story market without driving away customers, that could rise to $2-3 book. The issue is that readers read far less of books than authors think, so people who can write real page-turners will make money hand over fist while everyone else suffers, but that has always been the case even in dead tree publishing. There's no real injustice in it, it's just a product of Amazon trying to create a service that charged a flat rate and gave access to vastly different literary markets at the same payout rate - full-length novels and wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am pornos. It's like trying to run an all you can drink buffet and getting mad when people load up on the Dom Perignon rather than Stella Artois mixed with lemonade. The reason they left it this long (or even started like that to begin with) was because, as people say, they wanted to keep people browsing the Amazon site so they can one-click impulse buy physical goods with a higher profit margin. Apparently now they're trying to go for a bit more quality to entice better authors/publishers to Amazon and they're sick of topping up the kitty for the erotica authors who are making bank off KU (and off the customers who get to save hundreds of bucks per month on short story purchases). Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 17:00 |
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welp, so much for me being a millionaire.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 17:14 |
In other news, book report actually got a bit better: https://www.getbookreport.com/blog/first-major-update.html quote:Book Report just received its biggest update yet. No need to change anything - the new version will run automatically next time you click the bookmark.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 17:17 |
That graph of income going back to Jan 2014 is a hell of a thing. It still uses the current estimates for borrows etc but I imagine for some of you, regardless of what happens next, that graph will be a very, very pretty thing.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 17:19 |
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Half a cent, eh? Can't say I'm surprised. drat. It'll be interesting to see what changes this throws up. Maybe a wholesale move into regular romance and some of better performing other genres? New marketplaces springing up? Either way, I imagine that 95% of the even half-serious super-romance writers will be gone from KU by next week, so enthusiastic readers there are going to see a big increase in book bills.
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# ? Jul 1, 2015 17:27 |
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haha I am down with this image
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