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Ralp posted:I don't think the Mirror Universe makes sense as just a divergent timeline. It seems like a defining property is that all the same people are born there and somehow end up in the same general places and associate with the same people, just all with dispositions and through circumstances that are completely different from the uh non-mirror universe. So maybe this parallel applies to transporter accidents too, in which case: Mirror Thomas Riker... and hell, Mirror Tuvix The same accident probably happened but with someone else. Double Geordi
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Jul 2, 2015 18:32
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Kitchner posted:Tbh the teleworkers is like the most bad rear end weapon ever and they never kill anyone with it. In Voyager some Kazon transport a couple dudes into space with with a stolen teleporter.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:33
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How do transporters work on the surface then? Do spaceships have an atomizing ray that can target anywhere on a planet? Why don't they use this to obliterate enemies?
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Jul 2, 2015 18:38
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Lil Peeler posted:How do transporters work on the surface then? Do spaceships have an atomizing ray that can target anywhere on a planet? Why don't they use this to obliterate enemies? Yeah this is the bit they don't really explain.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:05
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Mirror universe Bashir is the anomaly. If he was a brain dead retard at the age of 10, how did he get to be the evil gently caress in the Mirror Universe? Maybe human pirates/slaves can afford gene splicing in that universe.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:06
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Ralp posted:IS THERE A MIRROR SELA YAR ok I'm just going to straight up write some fanfiction now, fair warning. Mirror Tasha Yar served as belly shirt yeoman slave aboard the flagship battlecruiser of the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance in the mirror universe, and when they visited Vagra II to enslave the race of titans there she was killed in valiant battle against their guardian being, the Skin of Good. Some time later, evil mirror Guinan (madam of the 10-forward brothel) conspired with her good friend mirror Q to change the timeline so that the mirror Klingons and mirror Cardassians never formed a mirror alliance, by pulling the Terran Empire flagship from an alternate past into the future. In this timeline, mirror Tasha is still alive, and escapes with some fellow slaves by sneaking onto the Terran flagship, commandeering it, and going back in time. Her Romulan first officer was also a slave, and they have a kid who grows up to be mirror Sela, an underground political activist on Romulus who works for the unification of mirror Romulans and mirror Vulcans.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:09
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happyhippy posted:Mirror universe Bashir is the anomaly. Maybe the federation (or whatever they call themselves in the mirror universe) are less prudish about genetic engineering than the main universe's federation. Hell, they could use that as an excuse for why they're by and large much bigger assholes than in the regular universe.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:10
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Ralp posted:ok I'm just going to straight up write some fanfiction now, fair warning. I'm forwarding this to J.J. Abrams.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:14
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I just watched this "Banned Clip" during a normal watching of Season 3, it's not removed from the episode or anything. I do enjoy that Gene Rodenberry is just straight up "Hmm yes I think terrorism is fine, let's discuss this in my techno-utopian vision and then maybe lay down some sick burns on arabs" Or at least that's the case for the Bluray
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Jul 2, 2015 19:15
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Mirror Universe Sela was in a Tuvix accident with Mirror Universe Thomas Riker, creating Seamas Riyar. Seamas was later killed by nanoprobes to become the biological template for the Mirror Universe version of that 29th century Borg guy.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:17
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There should have been a mirror universe/normal universe Q fight. You could have our Q appear to Picard or whoever, say they are the worst versions of Q they ever met in the multiverse. And they turn out to be basic Federation in all beliefs. And Picard loves them.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:21
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How come we never see mirror Barclay He probably has some real hosed up holodeck programs
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Jul 2, 2015 19:22
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bros i think only brain cells can last an entire lifetime so your body is basically replicating itself anyway except for the brain. maybe i made that up but like really like think about it man *bong rip*
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Jul 2, 2015 19:24
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Ein cooler Typ posted:How come we never see mirror Barclay Canonical Mirror Barclay should be exactly the same as that Voyager episode where he's a smooth talking sexy secret agent or whatever.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:24
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Squizzle posted:Mirror Universe Sela was in a Tuvix accident with Mirror Universe Thomas Riker, creating Seamas Riyar. Seamas was later killed by nanoprobes to become the biological template for the Mirror Universe version of that 29th century Borg guy. the nanoprobes were the nanites that Wesley Crusher let loose on the ship that one time, but suave mirror Wesley intentionally created them for that evil purpose and also he calls himself Stefan Urquelle and is played by Jaleel White.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:26
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Ralp posted:the nanoprobes were the nanites that Wesley Crusher let loose on the ship that one time, but suave mirror Wesley intentionally created them for that evil purpose and also he calls himself Stefan Urquelle and is played by Jaleel White. Thanks to a later accident with the pah wraith Orb of Time, they end up assimilating the Diplo-Matic (Mirror Universe Doomsday Machine) creating Evil V'ger.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:48
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Mirror Barclay would be their version of the Borg. Everyone on his planet/moon/ship hooked up into his virtual rape machine 24/7. And doing ship things earns them minutes of respite
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Jul 2, 2015 20:00
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Picard walks onto the bridge only to find a bunch of Ferengi And then he yells "What are all of these JEWS doing on my ship?" Cue laugh track
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Jul 2, 2015 20:07
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Were there ever any characters with identifiably Jewish names, or was there a second, more effective Holocaust at some point?
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happyhippy posted:There should have been a mirror universe/normal universe Q fight. Mirror universe Q must be named U.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:02
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I love Mirror Universes, it's such a gloriously stupid idea. "The last 300 years of history is completely different but everyone's parents are the same so there's equivalent people in both timelines."
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Entropic posted:I love Mirror Universes, it's such a gloriously stupid idea. "The last 300 years of history is completely different but everyone's parents are the same so there's equivalent people in both timelines." Obviously an alt-history holodeck programmer had to dump his newest project into subspace because of some sort of temporal-spatial anomaly, which then propagated backwards through time to a point before the holodeck was invented.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:09
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Obviously an alt-history holodeck programmer had to dump his newest project into subspace because of some sort of temporal-spatial anomaly, which then propagated backwards through time to a point before the holodeck was invented. actually that's what happened in the mirror universe, to create our universe.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:23
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Ralp posted:actually that's what happened in the mirror universe, to create our universe. Since it's Star Trek, it's actually either, depending on which suits the story better.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:24
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Kitchner posted:No they admit that's what it does. It literally disintegrates you, stores you as data, transfer the data, and then remakes you on the other side. You're misremembering. In Enterprise the old codger that comes on the ship to run his experiments literally laughs over the idea that the transported you isn't the real you.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:54
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shadow puppet of a posted:Mirror universe Q must be named U. You joke, but in one of the novels (I, Q, which is told from Q's perspective), the Q have a rival called the M. Come to think of it, there are a lot of silly things like that in that book, but it still somehow manages to be a pretty decent read. And like every other Star Trek novel, all the backstory and things that it established about the Q got completely contradicted by later episodes.
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Jul 2, 2015 22:31
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It makes sense, the collective of continuums would then go by QUIM.
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Powered Descent posted:You joke, but in one of the novels (I, Q, which is told from Q's perspective), the Q have a rival called the M. Come to think of it, there are a lot of silly things like that in that book, but it still somehow manages to be a pretty decent read. And like every other Star Trek novel, all the backstory and things that it established about the Q got completely contradicted by later episodes. The show writers could barely be bothered to be constrained by what they or their fellow staff writers had previously written, there's no chance in hell they were ever going to defer in the slightest to what amounted to licensed fanfiction.
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General Bullshit > Star Trek: what amounts to licensed fanfiction
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:what amounted to licensed fanfiction. I am totally stealing that turn of phrase.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Were there ever any characters with identifiably Jewish names, or was there a second, more effective Holocaust at some point? I don't know about jews, but there was the whole eugenics wars business that was supposed to have killed lots of people. Maybe all the jews died then? Nope, checking trek sperg wiki only 30-37 million people were supposed to have died in the eugenics wars. That seems really low.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Were there ever any characters with identifiably Jewish names, or was there a second, more effective Holocaust at some point? Dr. Zimmerman was one if you accept a Wikipedia ruling on the name's Jewishness. Memory Alpha makes the case that Worf's adoptive parents, The Rozhenkos, were Jewish. That is some pretty crappy representation if you ask me. I'm not one for tokenism but Admiral Nussbaum has a nice ring to it should Michael Dorn's vanity project take off.
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Angela Christine posted:I don't know about jews, but there was the whole eugenics wars business that was supposed to have killed lots of people. Maybe all the jews died then? According to Gene Rodenberry in the years after First Contact the jews all revealed that they're actually aliens, and they pulled off their masks and revealed that they were Ferengi all along. And then they left the planet. That's when mankind really started banding together
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Entropic posted:I love Mirror Universes, it's such a gloriously stupid idea. "The last 300 years of history is completely different but everyone's parents are the same so there's equivalent people in both timelines." there are an infinite number of mirror universes so eventually in some universe that will happen the historical records just show that universe
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Lil Peeler posted:Dude it took me a few reads to understand what you were referencing but then I was just like It is the hidden subconscious desire of sci-if nerds. Ralp posted:IS THERE A MIRROR SELA YAR Yes, and she's nice and well adjusted. Collects space-stamps.
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Angela Christine posted:I don't know about jews, but there was the whole eugenics wars business that was supposed to have killed lots of people. Maybe all the jews died then? Last night I watched the Bynar episode and Crusher is randomly sperging out about some dude called Eppenstein, so there's probably at least one jew left in the galaxy. Also it was quite weird to see McFadden try to register something other than serenity or mild concern.
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QuarkJets posted:I just watched this "Banned Clip" during a normal watching of Season 3, it's not removed from the episode or anything. I do enjoy that Gene Rodenberry is just straight up "Hmm yes I think terrorism is fine, let's discuss this in my techno-utopian vision and then maybe lay down some sick burns on arabs" For context the show was aired prior to the 1997 Good Friday Agreement. In the UK we sort of went a bit overboard when censoring terrorist poo poo, people always forget we were literally fighting a highly organised terrorist organisation on our doorstep and they nearly blew up the entire UK government under 40 years ago. There was one point where a guy associated with the IRA was literally dubbed over by an English guy saying the exact same thing but out of sync so you couldn't hear an irish voice supporting the terrorist goals. This was also a time where if you said "terrorist" to someone in the UK they would think of an irish guy with a balaclava on, not a beardy dude with a turban. That WAS banned by the BBC and Sky in the UK because it mentioned "the Irish Reunification in 2024" which, as the IRA were still active at that point, implied the UK government was going to lose that struggle. In the end of course the Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1997 meaning that the IRA only have another 9 years to undo the last 18 years of peace and reunify Ireland.
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QuarkJets posted:According to Gene Rodenberry in the years after First Contact the jews all revealed that they're actually aliens, and they pulled off their masks and revealed that they were Ferengi all along. And then they left the planet. That's when mankind really started banding together There is new age quackery that believe Jews came from space. Not trolling, they believe Jews and martians from Mars fought and formed Atlantis or some poo poo. google Spirit Science and you will find the motherlode of new age retardness.
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