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minato posted:Speaking of PlayStation, some dude found one of the few SNES-CD Sony/Nintendo collaboration prototypes in a box of junk. Image album here: http://imgur.com/a/Ll9kS Is he related to Ken Kutaragi, who also created the PlayStation?
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How about some handheld single title games? Mattel Auto Race  I played the gently caress out of this one. In action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isejBX1Tyjk
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SubG posted:That membrane keyboard is pretty much the only thing preventing the original TRS-80 Color Computer's chiclet keyboard from being the worst keyboard of the early micros. The Atari 400 membrane keyboard is right behind the Timex/Sinclair; maybe a teensy bit better because it's larger. I didn't know it was possible to bruise one's fingertips until 13-year-old me entered a long BASIC program on a borrowed 400.
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My first was a gift from my grandfather, a retired computer from the lab at the community college he taught at. I got an ABC80 (a Swedish 1979 vintage b/w Z80 based BASIC-in-ROM machine with cassette storage) in 1991 or so, back when I was 8. Took it apart not too long ago and found out the (quite nice!) keyboard was by Keytronic , incidentally. And yeah, I think the first thing I did was 10 print "Hei" 20 goto 10 As is tradition. Good gift, though; I got started with simple programming since that was what it was all about, and moved on to qbasic when we got the 486. I've moved on to other languages since, but it is what I do for a living. He hasn't explicitly said so, but I have a feeling granddad is happy his interest in programming rubbed off on someone, even if it completely skipped his kids.
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Flipperwaldt posted:The retarded keyboard on this: I was one of the lucky ones to get one of these with mine - opened up a whole new world! Dinosaur maze was the envy of my friends. 
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Jul 4, 2015 23:36
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My earliest Internet memory was going on Yahoo chat channels during lunch at high school. I was special education, so I could do pretty much whatever I wanted during lunch, or even during some class periods.
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Jul 4, 2015 23:49
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I wonder if anyone will ever solve the mystery of what's up with the model's left foot; was it photoshopped like that? Is that her real foot? The world may never know.
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Jul 5, 2015 01:07
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Mister Kingdom posted:How about some handheld single title games? I had Mattel's Battlestar Galactica Space Alert game.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOpGEvtPxpM My first "internet" memory was probably accessing the Swiss Pavilion's BBS site on a 2400 baud modem during Expo '88.
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Jul 5, 2015 02:14
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Gromit posted:I had Mattel's Battlestar Galactica Space Alert game. I never knew about that one. My first internet experience was on the *Prodigy network in the early 90s. I used to go to the MST3K board and trade tapes.
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Gromit posted:My first "internet" memory was probably accessing the Swiss Pavilion's BBS site on a 2400 baud modem during Expo '88. Man expo '88 was fantastic. I was there and remember space food sticks, a monorail and indoor snow skiing slope. My earliest internet memory was being put in front of a computer with access at my parents friends house while they drank and had good times. The first thing I remember was something called 'bobs games' and didn't know what I was doing. Also thinking that if I accessed some page about Fort Knox meant that I had 'gotten in'.
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Jul 5, 2015 04:48
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Scanimate! Pretty much any title you saw on TV during the 80's likely passed through this machine. It was designed to electronically alter the signals of a camera feed and then combine them into all sorts of off the wall title effects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispW6-7b2sA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHjkMThH0aE A few years ago someone used this style to create a music video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BBNZ-ejjU
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Jul 5, 2015 05:34
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I was just watching Halt and Catch Fire this weekend when I saw the calculator that my engineer parents made me use in 2001: Something in their minds thought that making me learn Reverse Polish notation would make me a better mathematician and a better programmer. Instead it made me queen of the hipsters or the nerds, depending on who you asked (usually the nerds). The one my parents gave me had its own padded Naugahyde case and had different plates for different programs. But they failed because I'm terrible at coding!
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Jul 5, 2015 05:39
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I think colorizing black and white movies counts as both obsolete and failed. And it's my secret shame... ... because I worked (briefly) for the company in this video, about a year before it was made. You can see the console that I used (the one with the Mac Plus) but not see that it was in an otherwise empty office suite with no other furniture and the windows covered with tape and cardboard. Dark, crappy and grim, much like my life at the time. It was my first job out of college and a surprisingly accurate preview of what my next 20 years would be like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUUuM6zkPJo I worked on the colorized version of Narrow Margin. 
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Jul 5, 2015 05:48
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It still happens, though nowadays it's made slightly less labor intensive from a mix of algorithms that take what information you give it and interpolate it across frames. and outsourcing to teams in India. The main drawback is there being no way to tell what colour things were, a good example was a Who episode being redone and a jungle background carefully given purple flowers, only to get told by someone who worked on the set that everything was actually green. A recent breakthrough was the Doctor Who team discovering that dot crawl - artifact produced from copying from tape to 16mm for international releases, usually meant to be filtered out by left because it was so minor - actually held some information about what colour was there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjK-b4x9ZmQ
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Jul 5, 2015 06:44
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WebDog posted:Scanimate! I think this is the most scanimate music video ever made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrle0x_DHBM
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Jul 5, 2015 08:28
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Oh the band even hopped on to the Myst bandwagon with their own video game : Isis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5k5B6qX-8w The objective was to find three crystals that powered up some Egyptian space ship which carried the band as some sort of heralds of music for Earth providing "The Gift of Healing," Curiously not much of the band appears aside from interview clips found randomly in the game and a fair chunk about them in the game manual. If you finished the game you got some clips from a concert. It does manage to be one of the least cringe worthy band branded video games, that's left to the infamous "Make my Video" series. The idea is that you're an editor (of sorts) who has to cut the band's music video which is little more than putting clips in the correct order then having them judged by the band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8WSFKFTBbw Also featuring INXS, Kriss Kross and C+C Music Factory. The SEGA CD has a special pit of FMV hell it belongs it.
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First computer memory was when my dad decided to buy a Dragon 32. Alcatraz II and Cuthbert Goes Digging were the standout games. Also endless hours of typing in program listings from Dragon User one of which simply drew a picture of ET. Earliest Internet memory was finally getting my Amiga 1200 online, firing up AMosaic, going to Yahoo! and immediately searching for porn. (I was 22...)
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First computer I had was a Spectravideo SVI-328. My dad had taken a programming course through his job and at the end of it they were offered to buy a 328 at a decent discount. With the computer he also got a large book with an introduction to BASIC programming and tons of example programs which I spent way too much time typing in. This was in 1984 or 85, I was 5 or 6 years old at the time. My first encounter with the Internet was visiting a computer museum in the early 90s where they had a computer with Mosaic which you could use to browse the very primitive web for 5 minutes at a time.. But every page took at least a minute to load so you didn't get very far.
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Eponine posted:I was just watching Halt and Catch Fire this weekend when I saw the calculator that my engineer parents made me use in 2001:
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WebDog posted:Scanimate! Do Scanimate plugins for digital video editing software still not exist?  I remember finding an After Effects guide (I think it was After Effects) but it was a thousand times more complex than just using an actual Scanimate (From that second video you posted).
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SLOSifl posted:RPN is pretty much functional programming. Even if you never "use" RPN in real life, you use it as a programmer. If anything, it helps to organize complex operations in a way that helps task breakdowns etc. Yeah, I've been learning JavaScript for work and knowing RPN has helped kind of understand a lot of what to do. I wish I could tell my 8th grade self in 2001 to get the gently caress over herself and be better at math.
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peter gabriel posted:The first thing I did when shown a website was wait until no one was looking and try and select all the text and hit delete This is hilarious. You rebel. Young you would have loved Wikipedia.
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Croccers posted:Do Scanimate plugins for digital video editing software still not exist? There was an organic level to it that you can't really replicate, even with random seed generators most plugins come with nowadays. It also meant that nothing could be saved unless you wrote it down or recorded a clean pass. Many operators had notes filled with ways to dial in starfields and so on. The high res (900 lines!) were played back at 60/50 frames per second then recorded back at 24 frames, hence the very fluid look. back then posted:Image sources were combined through a video switcher using wipes, cross-dissolves, luminance keying, and chroma keying. Multiple images could be played back from multiple videotape machines through the switcher. Scanimate could be triggered to run in sync with any tape deck. (This was before the invention of VHS, Beta, or digital videotape. The professional video standard format at this time was reel-to-reel two-inch videotape!) Scanimate animation could be recorded on one tape machine, played back with another pass added on top, and then recorded to another machine. These video techniques enabled Scanimate trickery to be used, for example, to create 3D gold flying logos. Here's the secret: An artist programmed Scanimate to create an undulating golden texture using oscillators patched into the INTENSITY parameter. (At Image West, we referred to this effect as "Thrill-o-vision!") A 3D logo, physically carved from balsa wood, was attached to a wooden dowel and connected to a stepper motor. The front surface of the carved logo was painted white, and the extruded sides were painted gray. The whole logo was then mounted in front of a chroma key blue background. Patching these signals into the video switcher, the artist defined the logo's white front surface as a luminance key hole. He then replaced it with the moving gold texture from Scanimate. Setting a different luminance key for the gray surfaces, he patched a darker gold texture into the extruded sides. He then created a streaking Scanimate star field and replaced the chroma key blue with that. The artist added another Scanimate pass to make the logo glow and used an Apple II computer to drive the motor to rotate the logo. Voila! A 3D gold logo rotating through space! All this was recorded to tape in real time with the capability to change speeds, color, or motion as the client and art director supervised. Most of what Scanimate did can be easily replicated from combining bits from plugin packs, Red Giant has a Starglow effect that you could use to get that famous glow effect then combine it with a bit of a noise filter to give it that fuzz, there's a really fun VHS filter they have that's good for that. If you were to re-create it you would need something could create sawbone sine waves and send them through an X/Y luma offset to distort the image.
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My family's first computer was an IBM Aptiva that they got in December of 1995. Then we got dial-up the following summer. It's been an awful life for me ever since. I don't know what my first computer memory is. Either watching my uncle play Doom or doing typing or math lessons in elementary school.
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My first computer was a 286 running at 12 MHz with 1MB ram and a 10 MB hard drive. This was approximately 1991. I was the only one in my circle of friends with a PC. One friend had a C64 that I also played on A LOT. A cousin had an Amiga 500 which had probably the best looking and sounding games. Unfortunately I did not get to visit him often. Turrican 1 & 2, Speedball, and some others I still remember well. For some reason I did not have MS DOS on that PC. Instead, it had Digital Research DOS (DRDOS) 6.0 which shipped with a piece of obsolete technology: a disk doubler. As I understand it, it was a dynamic compression scheme that would keep packing and unpacking data to and from the HDD to save space. It was supposed to turn my 10 MB HDD into a 20 MB HDD, but I doubt it really ever doubled the capacity as the compression level depended on the file types processed. Besides, it made any HDD operations painfully slow. I tried installing Wing Commander 2 on that machine. What a hilarious mistake that was. I don't recall exactly how many 3.5" floppies WC2 shipped on - maybe 8? - but I do remember it had a very extensive, multi-stage unpacking algorithm. The install took about 6-8 hours on my little machine and the game was really not playable on it at all. I deleted it and made myself content playing just WC1 again. The first games I played on that little 286 were Elvira 2, a compilation of early flight sims (Fighter Bomber, Gunship, and Falcon), and some LucasGames adventure games. Over the next few years, I went on to spend hundreds of hours on Gunship 2000, Falcon 3.0, various Ultimas, and Jagged Alliance 2. Those were the games that defined the 90's for me and I miss them. What I don't miss are the kickass monitors of that time. 21" Trinitrons were great for image quality, but whoo boy did they suck to lug around. TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 19:43 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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One of the monitors on my desk is a 21" 1600x1200 Radius Trinitron Monitor I bought new in August of 1999. It's been running great for fifteen years and the image quality is still fantastic.
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Jul 5, 2015 20:07
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WebDog posted:No one has made one. There has been discussions to try and replicate it but there's no easy way given that the system was pretty much altering electronic signals (got an oscillator handy?) that was literally dialed in on the fly enabling real-time adjustments. What's the source of that quote?
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Probably http://scanimate.zfx.com/
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My family's first ever computer was an Amiga A1000. It had a rather advanced color screen and speakers and full sound. It had a mouse, a fully multitasking operating system with icons. Played with Deluxe Paint, Skyfox.  I was kinda shocked by the older looking Apple II computers that my school had when we went to computer lab with their GIANT floppies. YOU HAVE TO TYPE?
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My first computer memories are of my family's Apple ][e, and specifically of playing Below The Root, Alice In Wonderland, and In Search Of The Most Amazing Thing.
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Mister Kingdom posted:How about some handheld single title games? We had this one in my house:  see it here in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itR_iZLY3sY I love that start up song.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:One of the monitors on my desk is a 21" 1600x1200 Radius Trinitron Monitor I bought new in August of 1999. It's been running great for fifteen years and the image quality is still fantastic. It's still on your desk because you need a crane to move one of those suckers. also where are all the goons whose first computer memories involve the use of punch cards 
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:also where are all the goons whose first computer memories involve the use of punch cards Not nearly old enough, but I did learn to program in FORTRAN where we had columns based on the width of punch cards. quote:When programming in the FORTRAN programming language, specific columns of a card were used for different purposes. For example, columns 1 through 5 were used to assign a number to a statement in case it needed to be referenced elsewhere; a character in column 6 indicated the material on this card continued work started on the previous card; regular instructions or commands were placed in columns 7 through 72; and (optionally) sequencing information was placed in columns 73-80.
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My family took notes on my father's undergraduate thesis punch cards through the 1990s. I had many vocabulary flashcards with tons of random holes in them. We also got an entire box of this stuff:  It made great enormous monster drawing paper.
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spog posted:Not nearly old enough, but I did learn to program in FORTRAN where we had columns based on the width of punch cards. I still try out the "God is real unless declared integer" joke, but nobody laughs any more.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:It's still on your desk because you need a crane to move one of those suckers. I started on a Plato system in the early 70s. In college I used punch cards for my Fortran and COBOL courses.
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Eponine posted:My family took notes on my father's undergraduate thesis punch cards through the 1990s. I had many vocabulary flashcards with tons of random holes in them. My uncle has owned a small auto repair shop since the early 90s. He uses a database built on dbase III, it even has his first transaction from sometime in 1993. One problem is that the database only seems to want to print to an IBM proprinter. For a while we were using old HP deskjets that could emulate a proprinter, but the last one finally gave out. As a replacement he ended up buying a brand new (not even refurbished) OKI Data tractor feed dot matrix printer. I even bought him a 5000 sheet box of tractor feed paper to go with it. This was in 2013. I do actually think it's pretty cool printer (or would  be more appropriate?) but I'm not sure how I'd feel after listing to it all day.
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My first pc at home had a 500 mb hard drive, and IBM aptiva. I played a lot of Pitfall The Mayan Adventure and Cyberia. The pcs at my school, they said, didn't have hard drives. Is that even possible?
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MeatloafCat posted:My uncle has owned a small auto repair shop since the early 90s. He uses a database built on dbase III, it even has his first transaction from sometime in 1993. One problem is that the database only seems to want to print to an IBM proprinter. For a while we were using old HP deskjets that could emulate a proprinter, but the last one finally gave out. As a replacement he ended up buying a brand new (not even refurbished) OKI Data tractor feed dot matrix printer. I even bought him a 5000 sheet box of tractor feed paper to go with it. This was in 2013. The Okidata Microline printers will most likely continue to be supported and sold for a number of years to come due to a surprising number of offices/ work sites that use them. Hell, I just leased two cars last fall and my contracts were printed on one. And you're right about the noise- It was loud as hell, and shook the table it was on enough to misalign the print halfway through the contract. The sales manager, my wife, and I just sat awardly, unable to talk above the din. It might have been on its way out as there was a factory sealed box with yet another Microline underneath the table.
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Slanderer posted:What's the source of that quote?
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