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JackBadass posted:Yeah. Shooting outside of VATS in 3 and NV sucked rear end. As long as enemies in 4 don't act like bullet sponges that don't feel pain, that could be a great improvement. Destiny, despite sucking in every other conceivable way, at least didn't seem to suffer from that problem. The Microsoft demo showed off a bit more of the gunplay and it's very much like a traditional FPS now. Enemies move around more and actually use cover and there seems to be emphasis on being able to competently fight with just iron sights and your own personal skill instead of relying on VATS or modded in bullet time. The enemies also seem less bullet spongey, like one or two full auto bursts kill them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nYFn-aIno Skip to 2:37.
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chitoryu12 posted:The Microsoft demo showed off a bit more of the gunplay and it's very much like a traditional FPS now. Enemies move around more and actually use cover and there seems to be emphasis on being able to competently fight with just iron sights and your own personal skill instead of relying on VATS or modded in bullet time. The enemies also seem less bullet spongey, like one or two full auto bursts kill them. What WAS that dog doing out there all on its own? (Android spy-dog)
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Smoky One-bedder posted:What WAS that dog doing out there all on its own? It has been waiting patiently for its owner for the last 200+ years.
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chitoryu12 posted:The Microsoft demo showed off a bit more of the gunplay and it's very much like a traditional FPS now. Enemies move around more and actually use cover and there seems to be emphasis on being able to competently fight with just iron sights and your own personal skill instead of relying on VATS or modded in bullet time. The enemies also seem less bullet spongey, like one or two full auto bursts kill them. that looks good Donovan Trip fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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chitoryu12 posted:They were consulted for redoing the combat. Uggg, I hope their influence isn't too strong. I loving hate Halo's gun-play.
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Man Whore posted:Uggg, I hope their influence isn't too strong. I loving hate Halo's gun-play. Well, you might be out of luck. IIRC they said similar mechanics from the Halo series like energy shields would be retrofitted into fallout 4. It would be safe to assume that it's going be used on power armour and play a big part in the crafting system attached to power armour.
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chitoryu12 posted:The Microsoft demo showed off a bit more of the gunplay and it's very much like a traditional FPS now. Enemies move around more and actually use cover and there seems to be emphasis on being able to competently fight with just iron sights and your own personal skill instead of relying on VATS or modded in bullet time. The enemies also seem less bullet spongey, like one or two full auto bursts kill them. Thanks for linking this, I hadn't seen it before. So yeah, shooting looks a lot better, and thank god for that. I don't have much hope for the writing or story, but then again I didn't like those in Skyrim either and still start it up again every few months. If they can preserve Fallout 3's sense of exploration (and improve on the lovely parts, like DC and the cookie-cutter metros), and follow through on making the enemies smarter and less spongy then the gameplay for this will be pretty goddamn solid.
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Odobenidae posted:Well, you might be out of luck. IIRC they said similar mechanics from the Halo series like energy shields would be retrofitted into fallout 4. It would be safe to assume that it's going be used on power armour and play a big part in the crafting system attached to power armour. T. "Adolf Hitler is my Hero" Howard also said that you can only hold 2 guns at a time.
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What I worry about is that the power armour sections will basically be setpieces, like does every player have to use the minigun to mow down raiders? I mean, as long as the rest of the game allows the player freedom it won't really be a problem if there's stuff inbetween but I dunno.
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Gonna mod the reloading sound for my Laser Musket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNJeS6O6ds
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sout posted:What I worry about is that the power armour sections will basically be setpieces, like does every player have to use the minigun to mow down raiders? Yeah probably Everyone agrees Witcher 3 is the greatest open world RPG in a long time, even though it's full of "hold down the witcher sense button and follow footsteps" setpieces...
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echronorian posted:Yeah probably Also the weapons are mostly just "sword" and "other sword." You can get a lot of depth and variety out of a seemingly simplistic combat system though. Hell, even Morrowind's terrible "always use best attack" combat allowed for some interesting fights when you factored in consumables and spell effects.
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Pwnstar posted:Gonna mod the reloading sound for my Laser Musket I didn't think of this at all but I saw your post and - without even clicking the link - I know exactly what this is and agree
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Odobenidae posted:Well, you might be out of luck. IIRC they said similar mechanics from the Halo series like energy shields would be retrofitted into fallout 4. It would be safe to assume that it's going be used on power armour and play a big part in the crafting system attached to power armour. When did anyone say Fallout 4 is going to have Shields or Halo mechanics or only holding a few guns? I can't tell the joke posts in this thread anymore. The one thing that I hope still stays from FO3/NV combat is sniper rifle options. You could one or two shot a lot of even stronger enemies with a good sniper rifle, stealth and high gun skill.
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But only if you turned off autoaim and used the mod that adjusted scopes to work properly. Or you know, used V.A.T.S.
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I don't like to use VATS all the time because it takes the game out of the game. It's cool sometimes but it becomes "run up on some guys, click on their heads, they died."
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sout posted:What I worry about is that the power armour sections will basically be setpieces, like does every player have to use the minigun to mow down raiders? I demand twin-ballistic-fist power armor. Actually I just want the ballistic fist in the game, it's probably my favorite weapon in any game ever. A big metal gauntlet that fires a double barrel shotgun into whatever you punch. Best and most practical idea in any fallout game. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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This is a pretty fantastic post.
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If i had to make an educated guess, based only on what we have seen, they might be leaning towards limiting power armor usage by making it require returning to the 'shop' for repairs to fix after extended fights. This based mostly on the PA HUD that shows the different sectors of the armor taking different values of damage. There also seems to be a 'Core' meter that moves down through the video slowly, so they could use needing to scavenge/craft fuel cells as a limiter. Both options could be used together as well.
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SHUT UP and take some weapons in your face. http://imgur.com/a/Y4Tga?gallery
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Have to say I'm diggin the new look of the 10mm pistol and this just looks hilarious 
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The new 10mm pistol looks like a pre-modded That Gun. At the least, it looks pretty nifty. This game is going to make me go crazy in a good way.
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Its always weird how every plasma weapon kinda looks like a prototype. I like the Plasma Defender the most cuz it doesnt look like it will explode and kill you if you drop it.
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big mean giraffe posted:It definitely doesn't look *that* bad on max settings. Doesn't look great but it isn't that terrible. Supposedly this is New Vegas on Ultra settings: 
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Hihohe posted:SHUT UP and take some weapons in your face. I like that for all the black baseball bats it says Modifications:
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computer parts posted:Supposedly this is New Vegas on Ultra settings: There may also be a texture pack in there.
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Smoky One-bedder posted:What WAS that dog doing out there all on its own? Bicyclops posted:I like that for all the black baseball bats it says
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Hihohe posted:SHUT UP and take some weapons in your face. That one baseball bat is straight out of Dead Island.
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Bicyclops posted:I like that for all the black baseball bats it says Launch bug prevents you from unequipped that modification.
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Hihohe posted:SHUT UP and take some weapons in your face. Tactical grip on pipe gun = electrical tape over a carving knife handle
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Hihohe posted:SHUT UP and take some weapons in your face. That is one of the most derp-est and ugliest "automatic rifles" I have ever seen. I hope they have more traditional designs available, because I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot pole. 
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FronzelNeekburm posted:
I'm going to equip a shiny silver suit, up my defensive characteristics and run around saying "Your black bats with sawblades on them will have no effect on me!"
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sout posted:What I worry about is that the power armour sections will basically be setpieces, like does every player have to use the minigun to mow down raiders? I noticed the player turned level 2 when talking to Preston, so if you went right to this set piece out of the Vault it'd likely the best weapon available.
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FronzelNeekburm posted:What's wrong with bat-blacking?! We like it very much!  Enjoyable reference.So can that stuff-launcher use skulls as ammo or what? Lazy_Liberal fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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If they can put a silencer on an assault rifle, they can put a silencer on anything. Its ninja time. 
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Back Hack posted:That is one of the most derp-est and ugliest "automatic rifles" I have ever seen. I hope they have more traditional designs available, because I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot pole. nothing gets more 'traditional' than styling it after an early browning water-cooled heavy machine gun edit: or a later-model Maxim Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Magmarashi posted:If i had to make an educated guess, based only on what we have seen, they might be leaning towards limiting power armor usage by making it require returning to the 'shop' for repairs to fix after extended fights. This based mostly on the PA HUD that shows the different sectors of the armor taking different values of damage. There also seems to be a 'Core' meter that moves down through the video slowly, so they could use needing to scavenge/craft fuel cells as a limiter. Both options could be used together as well.
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frajaq posted:Mr Tastee you do know that it wasn't Bethesda that did Fallout New Vegas right? I don't think you could be gay in Fallout 3 I rolled a female and Bittercup from Big Town wants to slurp on this vaginer like it was the last Bloodpack in the all the wastelands.
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