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uranus posted:nothing is a threat to you when you're dead. so in a sense, town wins every game thats the town people, when they die the scum pillage the town
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Quidnose posted:quote this post and i'll tell you what cheese would go well with you as the wine I am the cheese I am the best character on the show EccoRaven posted:the real question is, which townies have accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts? because they have the Eternal Victory. *presses record* note to self, role that targets players and kills them at night but also changes their win condition to "die before the end of the game." "Angel SK?" *presses stop*
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uranus posted:so 50 years later after all the scum have died of old age, the town wins!!!!1 But the scum are already dead, last one got killed by the SK. I like to imagine the scenario ending with a SK win because he lives just a moment longer than the dead scum. He's dead, too, but he died knowing that he won. And that's the greatest gift of all imo.
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Quidnose posted:quote this post and i'll tell you what cheese would go well with you as the wine yes
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chaoslord posted:But the scum are already dead, last one got killed by the SK. Isn't this how Snowbound ended up working out?
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Quidnose posted:quote this post and i'll tell you what cheese would go well with you as the wine
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I'm gonna have to change my future games' town wincons to "all threats to town have been eliminated and one townie is still alive," scum to "unassailable control of the vote," and sk to "when all scum and townies are dead." Still not perfect but I think I'll like it that way.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:11
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Tremendous Taste posted:Quote this post and I'll tell you which hockey player you are
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I mean I think "a player from this faction must still be alive by the end of the game" is an implied condition to every wincon. It's clunky as all get out and totally not necessary since any reasonable player expects that implied clause. In the fifty years we've been doing mafia here this is one of (if not the?) first time(s) anyone has ever considered it.
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I think I've had role PMs that explicitly called out "you don't have to be alive to fulfill this", but they would have been 3p, not town. I think the SK/scum situation is an "everybody loses" thing.
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Anyway somebody add this to the wiki: * [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3727294 SWOLFIA (Your thread title contains invalid characters. Go back and fix it)] - (something) victory. Hosted by MMM Whatchya Say.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:16
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BottleKnight make a game with me tia
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who really cares if some players decide that they've won the game anyway. i did that once when cpig put a secret lynchbomb no one had knowledge of that killed me as scum in lylo. i won that game because i got the town lynched. not my fault the mod just randomly decided to kill me IM STILL BITTER ABOUT THAT GAME
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You could have just asked. Sidney Crosby The kid from The Hockey Sweater t a s t e fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Runaktla posted:I'm a dead ringer for Dustin Brown... Don Cherry Note that Don Cherry isn't a player, mr revisor t a s t e fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Jul 14, 2015 17:24
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:BottleKnight make a game with me tia like co-mods? I don't even know how that would work.
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BottleKnight posted:like co-mods? I don't even know how that would work. people collaborate on a game setup, exchanging ideas and stuff and then after a show of dominance, one of the mods fucks off while the other runs the game
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EccoRaven posted:I mean I think "a player from this faction must still be alive by the end of the game" is an implied condition to every wincon. It's clunky as all get out and totally not necessary since any reasonable player expects that implied clause. its not implied at all, it is just an assumption people are blindly making because it makes sense. The rules with regard to win-cons are clearly stated and meant to be taken literally, not altered on whim because it seems like it should be obvious. Yeah it never comes up so it hasn't mattered yet, but it might if mods aren't more clear with their win-cons
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JakeP posted:its not implied at all, it is just an assumption people are blindly making because it makes sense. The rules with regard to win-cons are clearly stated and meant to be taken literally, not altered on whim because it seems like it should be obvious. wincons have layers. like onions! onions have layers!
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:people collaborate on a game setup, exchanging ideas and stuff and then after a show of dominance, one of the mods fucks off while the other runs the game collaborations are tough but some folks have made them work in the past.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:33
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One of the co-mods is always the Ringo.
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Somberbrero posted:collaborations are tough but some folks have made them work in the past. oh god what is that horrible avatar
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Jul 14, 2015 17:35
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Somberbrero posted:collaborations are tough but some folks have made them work in the past. I have no problems with collabs and I think they're great. It's mainly the setup that needs collaborating on. After the setup is finished it only really takes one person to run a game provided it isn't a tremendous taste 75 player game.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:36
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BottleKnight posted:oh god what is that horrible avatar it's baaaaaaaaack
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Jul 14, 2015 17:37
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BottleKnight posted:oh god what is that horrible avatar A trophy.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:37
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Mills are you going to give me that avatar if I don't put you at the middle of the graph? oh god
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JakeP posted:it is just an assumption people are [] making because it makes sense. it's not actually necessary to legislate every possibility when everyone (not blindly but reasonably) assumes the same thing. it's also implied that only players in a game can claim a victory - if you replaced out you don't get to say you won the game! gotta include that in role PMs, you know, just to be sure BottleKnight posted:oh god what is that horrible avatar ha ha mills is so funny
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I have a couple ~*secret buzzfeeds*~ left to do and imgur is totally crashing. You are free to share your ~*secret buzzfeed*~ result or keep it to yourself.
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Look Under The Rock posted:You are free to share your ~*secret buzzfeed*~ result or keep it to yourself. EccoRaven fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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EccoRaven posted:it's not actually necessary to legislate every possibility when everyone (not blindly but reasonably) assumes the same thing. If a townie dies and town wins he doesn't lose In games the rules should be clearly stated at all times. I am not finding some crazy loophole in the system, it is literally what the win-condition says, and being dead doesn't prevent town from winning. Don't know where your replaced out analogy comes from it has nothign to do with this, of course if you remove yourself from the game and someone takes your place you don't win or lose you aren't involved in the game.
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quote this post and i'll tell you what buzzfeed list you are
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Jul 14, 2015 17:47
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Poorly worded win conditions are the worst 
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Tremendous Taste posted:
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uranus posted:quote this post and i'll tell you what buzzfeed list you are
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JakeP posted:I am not finding some crazy loophole in the system JakeP posted:it is just an assumption people are [] making because it makes sense. we don't need to codify universally-believed reasonable assumptions, not the least of which because it's super, super clunky and unnecessary. JakeP posted:of course if you remove yourself from the game and someone takes your place you don't win or lose you aren't involved in the game.
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Quote this and I will tell you what sport and position you are.
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yeah why bother having clear language in games or anything when your intent is clear to yourself?
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CCKeane posted:Quote this and I will tell you what sport and position you are.
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CCKeane posted:Quote this and I will tell you what sport and position you are. uranus posted:quote this post and i'll tell you what buzzfeed list you are I want both of these
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EccoRaven posted:we don't need to codify universally-believed reasonable assumptions, not the least of which because it's super, super clunky and unnecessary. Dont matter if it is a reasonable assumption the rules are clearly stated at the beginning of the game. Perhaps the moderator should be more clear if they don't want this kind of confusion. It really isn't that hard to clarify EccoRaven posted:but that's not what it says jakep!! what if the player would have been the Town MVP but for the mod accidentally slipping some setup details to them (say, sending the wrong Night Result PM), so they had to get replaced for the integrity of the game. WHAT THEN JAKEP??? lol then the integrity of the game was ruined the second the mod hosed up and had to replace someone who was playing very well, and the result is irellevant because the game is pretty much a null and void no contest being that the mod already ruined it for the players involved
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