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Look Under The Rock posted:Spell this out phonetically and you've got it. I meant Actuarial, act you Terry ul
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EccoRaven posted:in it to win it.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:oh ok, strict happiness is still pretty easy to game. This is really loving good.
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Util good, creates reasonable calculus for human prosperity
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Jul 15, 2015 20:09
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Deontology's a bunch of poo poo.
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CCKeane posted:This is really loving good. YES and I will be using that as soon as we finish watching this 60 Minutes video about big game hunting???
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Jul 15, 2015 20:10
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There is likely a cap to human happiness, but there isn't a bottom. In conclusion, continuing the human species is a net evil.
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Also MMM I mentioned that 70k thing to my mom a couple days ago and she straw manned me into that position you just said, "Oh so you want to tax people 100% for anything they make over 70k?" Yes mom. Yes.
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BottleKnight posted:Also MMM I mentioned that 70k thing to my mom a couple days ago and she straw manned me into that position you just said, "Oh so you want to tax people 100% for anything they make over 70k?" I'd be down.
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BottleKnight posted:Util good, creates reasonable calculus for human prosperity According to my friend: I don't use trigger warnings often but tbh this is p gross You can make a utilitarian argument for government-sponsored pedophilia brothels, because although the few children who are forced/sold into prostitution would suffer, it would mean that 1) fewer children would be raped/molested by pedophiles and 2) less people suffering in prison for sex crimes CCKeane posted:In conclusion, continuing the human species is a net evil.
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Look Under The Rock posted:According to my friend: holy poo poo
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Jul 15, 2015 20:15
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That somebody thought of this string of words is proof that there is no such things as good in this world
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Haha that reminds me of a sociology class I took once where someone suggested that people who go on sex tourism style trips where they have sex with children are actually just helping out the local economy by bringing their money there, so it's not that bad.
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Jul 15, 2015 20:17
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EccoRaven posted:a rubberband ball I made from all the lunches I got at my old job since whole foods was so close by! I met a cactus that seemed reasonable at first, but it turns out he was kind of a prick.
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I'm an economist. Ask me anything about a utility-maximising infinitely lived representative actor.
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Asiina posted:Haha that reminds me of a sociology class I took once where someone suggested that people who go on sex tourism style trips where they have sex with children are actually just helping out the local economy by bringing their money there, so it's not that bad. Yeah you can make a utilitarian argument for that too CCKeane posted:I met a cactus that seemed reasonable at first, but it turns out he was kind of a prick. Don't talk about Ernie like that
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That line of thought is bad because its goals are skewed. Even if you look at it through a utilitarian lens it's still bad because your goal, of which should be NO PEDOPHILIA, is not being met. We dropped two bombs on Japan to stop the war, not not lessen it and keep some people out of prison.
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Jul 15, 2015 20:23
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don't be so hard on yourself, you dropped a lot more than 2 bombs on japan
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Jul 15, 2015 20:24
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We should've dropped them on China too! Everything would've been easier if we just listened to MacArthur. Rabble rabble
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Jul 15, 2015 20:34
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Look if we just get everybody into masocism, then suffering instantly turns into happiness and society wins. The government should fund BDSM awareness and promotion events and propaganda.
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Jul 15, 2015 20:36
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BottleKnight posted:That line of thought is bad because its goals are skewed. Even if you look at it through a utilitarian lens it's still bad because your goal, of which should be NO PEDOPHILIA, is not being met. We dropped two bombs on Japan to stop the war, not not lessen it and keep some people out of prison. Well the goal is to have the least pedophilia possible, and it (unfortunately, correctly) recognizes that stopping it entirely is effectively impossible, so it takes a ludicrous utilitarian approach to minimize it
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Jul 15, 2015 20:37
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I've had a very very bad 6 weeks, how does one get into this masochism thing
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:I've had a very very bad 6 weeks, how does one get into this masochism thing In my experience, gain 50 pounds and get really into Doctor Who.
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Kumbamontu posted:Well the goal is to have the least pedophilia possible, and it (unfortunately, correctly) recognizes that stopping it entirely is effectively impossible, so it takes a ludicrous utilitarian approach to minimize it Who says that's the goal? That certainly would make all pedophiles awfully unhappy. Under utilitarianism, there's no action that is objectively wrong -- all that matters is the consequences. If the consequence of pedophilia is that children are harmed, should our goal not be "make sure as few children are harmed as possible"?
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Look Under The Rock posted:Who says that's the goal? That certainly would make all pedophiles awfully unhappy. Under utilitarianism, there's no action that is objectively wrong -- all that matters is the consequences. If the consequence of pedophilia is that children are harmed, should our goal not be "make sure as few children are harmed as possible"? I'd pount out here that there is no system of ethics where a well done steak is not objectively wrong.
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About to meet pmom. Anyone want me to deliver a message? Asiina?
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CCKeane posted:I met a cactus that seemed reasonable at first, but it turns out he was kind of a prick. 
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You're not the only cactus I know, Ernie. Although you do have a point.
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Look Under The Rock posted:Who says that's the goal? That certainly would make all pedophiles awfully unhappy. Under utilitarianism, there's no action that is objectively wrong -- all that matters is the consequences. If the consequence of pedophilia is that children are harmed, should our goal not be "make sure as few children are harmed as possible"? That's actually a great point I hadn't considered.
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I think people need to stop talking about ethics and talk about something important instead: Does the world need more power ballads? I'm specifically thinking of the late 80s/early 90s hair/glam rock bands like Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, etc.
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Ernie. posted:About to meet pmom. Anyone want me to deliver a message? Asiina? Ask him if I'm actually his favorite mafia player and lie to me regardless of the answer.
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TMMadman posted:I think people need to stop talking about ethics and talk about something important instead: Does the world need more power ballads? I'm specifically thinking of the late 80s/early 90s hair/glam rock bands like Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, etc. Yes, they all went to Country Music, and they are alive and well there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AtaZ_NU_tU
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TMMadman posted:I think people need to stop talking about ethics and talk about something important instead: Does the world need more power ballads? I'm specifically thinking of the late 80s/early 90s hair/glam rock bands like Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, etc. The correct answer is yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIiLvg58SY
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Actually this is a better more recent example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8s3LVHH5Dk
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Kumbamontu posted:The correct answer is yes. One of my favorites, but this is better: https://youtu.be/5QD5n98R_nk
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I actually linked the wrong Symphony X song. I meant this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvOJlX4ZkE TMMadman posted:One of my favorites, but this is better: That is indeed an excellent choice.
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Theory: The Cars were the precursor to both grunge and 90s arena rock. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-rdr0qhWk After the intro and into the verse, notice the use of the odd minor scale switching - it actually is starting out in Harmonic minor but as we can see when we have the resolution of "i kind of lose my mind - yeah" it switches to melodic. This is an odd choice for a bassline. It also sounds like a familiar kind of odd harmonic structure choice we might know... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg Nirvana had a really clear and different melodic structure, but it really isn't that different than the "innovation" that The Cars are doing there. We also have very similar crunchy guitarness happening that is similar to another iconic 90s band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcC-cH-xfRk There you go, how we got from 80s music to grunge and arena rock.
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The only good song ever written was take on me by reel big fish, imo.
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Quidnose posted:Theory: The Cars were the precursor to both grunge and 90s arena rock. I'd be more inclined to think that Pixies were inspired by the tonal moves The Cars made (both Boston-area bands as well), thus inspiring Nirvana at an additional generation removed. Ric Ocasek produced the first Weezer record. Also, my band covered Just What I Needed in its last lineup before it kind of shambled to pieces. hexwren fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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