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A Bag of Milk posted:New Fox News Poll  Holy poo poo I knew quite a bit of the Republican base agreed with The Donald, but loving 44% of them?
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Joementum posted:Super delegate apportionment is really easy because they are all unpledged PLEOs. All you have to do is count the endorsements. I cannot believe we continue this dumb farce. fade5 posted:
There's a reason why HuffPo not covering him is stupid.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:56
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Wow, a 49-47 split over Benghazi in FAVOR of not continuing the investigation? Knowing Fox I'd expect that number to be much lower.fade5 posted:
And therein lies the conundrum for the rest of the GOP field. They need these people to vote for them, but they can only dogwhistle the stuff--Trump gets to loving foghorn blast it.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:58
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Alter Ego posted:Wow, a 49-47 split over Benghazi in FAVOR of not continuing the investigation? Knowing Fox I'd expect that number to be much lower. Which makes it a "new political space" that they have to navigate. I still don't think he's a real candidate, but maybe I am just lying to myself in the sick belief that Americans cannot be that loving terrible.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:03
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fade5 posted:
I'll be pretty happy if I am missing something.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:08
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Nah, Trump is not a real candidate. If he truly is then there is no hope and it's time to move to Canada.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:09
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Bryter posted:It's worse. That's 44% of eligible voters, not just the Republican base, unless I'm missing something. I hope I'm missing something. I just read the actual question and holy poo poo, what a loving push poll question: "Recently, presidential candidate Donald Trump called for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. He said Mexico is quote, “sending people that have lots of problems...They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” Setting aside how Trump worded his comments, do you think he’s basically right on this, or not?" There's one heartening piece of information in there--literally every group except self-identifying Republicans dismisses Trump as a loudmouth by a wide margin. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 19:10
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Tempest_56 posted:
It comes down to the same thing as other analyses on the same lines. In order to win the election, the Republicans need about a six-point swing from 2012; in other words, they probably need the popular vote to be something on the lines of 51-48 or thereabouts. That does imply an advantage to the Democrats, in that they probably have an advantage in situations where the popular vote is extremely close. But ultimately, that 51% mark is certainly not impossible to hit, and it more or less still comes down to the fact that whoever wins the popular vote will probably also win the election. It's true that the Republicans need to win a bunch of swing states, but I think it's also true that if they win the popular vote by any meaningful margin, they probably will win those swing states.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:13
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Alter Ego posted:It's a reference to how Donald Trump pronounces "huge". ahh thank you
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Jul 17, 2015 19:14
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McCain said some mean things about Trump so now Trump is trying to run him out of the Senate.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:16
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I thought yooj was in reference to Bernie, not the Donald? Bernie's the one with the thick Brooklyn accent.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:27
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Gregoriev posted:I thought yooj was in reference to Bernie, not the Donald? Bernie's the one with the thick Brooklyn accent. this yooj wealth inequality yooj! it is unacceptable! 51% african american youth are without jobs! that is a yooj disparity and the reality of America today! (crowd boos)
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Jul 17, 2015 19:27
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Gregoriev posted:I thought yooj was in reference to Bernie, not the Donald? Bernie's the one with the thick Brooklyn accent. We're gonna build the yoojest, classiest, most luxurious welfare state.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:29
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tekz posted:I spend my time talking about all the dumb stuff the bad doodooheads from the red team say, im a growed up and my approach to thinking about the world as a less entertaining version of WWE is defensible Less?
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Jul 17, 2015 19:33
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Syphilicious! posted:Less? Some folks measure entertainment in oiled roid-swollen pecs.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:36
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FAUXTON posted:Some folks measure entertainment in oiled roid-swollen pecs. GARY STRYDOM for president 
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Jul 17, 2015 19:41
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FAUXTON posted:Some folks measure entertainment in oiled roid-swollen pecs. Some folks just want to watch drugged-up freaks act out ridiculous cultural stereotypes while spouting market-tested catchphrases during mock elimination combat
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Jul 17, 2015 19:44
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CheesyDog posted:Some folks just want to watch drugged-up freaks act out ridiculous cultural stereotypes while spouting market-tested catchphrases during mock elimination combat Also, Donald Trump.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:45
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FAUXTON posted:Some folks measure entertainment in oiled roid-swollen pecs. I bet Scott Walker and Rick Perry look pretty good nude.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:45
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Upon reflection I'm not sure why Linda McMahon's campaigns went so poorly for her
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Jul 17, 2015 19:49
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CheesyDog posted:Some folks just want to watch drugged-up freaks act out ridiculous cultural stereotypes while spouting market-tested catchphrases during mock elimination combat Wrestling gave us Dwayne Johnson in movies, so I can't hate.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:51
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JT Jag posted:Actually most if the thread has been making fun of the latest thing that a Republican candidate has said. Like at least 75% I'd guess. What most republicans say really doesn't matter. Only Trump does. I can't wait for his next disaster. 
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Jul 17, 2015 19:55
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Skwirl posted:If you want to vote for Bernie vote for Bernie. I get really annoyed with people who think Hillary is barely better than any of the republicans. At the very least she openly believes in global warming and evolution and doesn't want to start a war with Iran which i don't think you can say about any of the republicans. Also I bet she wants to expand our healthcare policies at a federal level instead of shrink them. But is that what her banking overlords want?
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Jul 17, 2015 19:59
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Can we just skip forward to the part where he gets shot and then becomes a good person? Trump has to win Florida first.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:01
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Politicians are limp wristed and play the political game to get their selves gains and hide it pretending to be average. Trump has no limp wrists and makes no excuse for having lots of money. McCain owning a bunch of houses was an issue but trump owning stuff is not.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:03
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Dalael posted:What most republicans say really doesn't matter. Only Trump does. I can't wait for his next disaster. "Disaster" is a relative term, though. Every time Trump says something offensive about Mexicans or Muslims or black people or whatever, the civilized world cringes--but Republicans eat it up and his poll numbers jump.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:04
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Tempest_56 posted:From my own experience, you're an outlier there. Every jewish person I know over the age of 40 is exactly that - Israel is the Holy Land and must be protected at any cost. Even ones who have never even visited or have family members there. In the younger demographic, there's more of an attitude split but there's still a decent number of those true Zionists there. You might not notice the folks who are as I've found (aside from Facebook, where they never shut up) it isn't brought up much. When it is, the reactions I find are often shock that anyone would dare to not give complete support to Israel in everything forever. There's definetly a very significant portion of the jewish community where it's not just a big deal, it's THE deal. I know lifelong Democratic voters who've sworn to never support the party again because Bibi doesn't like Obama. quote:Despite the changes in Jewish identity in America, 94% of U.S. Jews (including 97% of Jews by religion and 83% of Jews of no religion) say they are proud to be Jewish. Three-quarters of U.S. Jews (including 85% of Jews by religion and 42% of Jews of no religion) also say they have “a strong sense of belonging to the Jewish people.” And emotional attachment to Israel has not waned discernibly among American Jews in the past decade, though it is markedly stronger among Jews by religion (and older Jews in general) than among Jews of no religion (and younger Jews in general).5 However  http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/
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Dalael posted:But is that what her banking overlords want? The reaffirmation of the ACA by the supreme court sent heathcare stocks soaring, so yes, probably. Additionally most plans towards universal healthcare involve skimming more and more constantly sick people and the poor off of the regular insurer rolls, which means greater profits, and even the endgame of a UHC system is likely to allow privately owned hospitals to remain intact - and to allow extra insurance on top (as many other countries do).
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Jul 17, 2015 20:05
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Oh yeah, a majority of Jewish Americans back Obama regarding Israel.
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CheesyDog posted:Some folks just want to watch drugged-up freaks act out ridiculous cultural stereotypes while spouting market-tested catchphrases during mock elimination combat Oh right the DNC's in Philly this time.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:23
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I swear to god, one of these days Im going to go blind from rolling my eyes a full 360.
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Dalael posted:But is that what her banking overlords want? Worse, Clinton is in the pocket of "Big University" now! quote:Ivy League universities were among the biggest sources of cash for the Clinton campaign. Employees of Yale University gave $72,000, more than from traditionally high-giving corporations like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and Google, while Harvard University employees gave $37,000.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:27
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Shageletic posted:Oh yeah, a majority of Jewish Americans back Obama regarding Israel. To be fair, a majority of Jewish Americans back Obama on most things because they are overwhelmingly democratic. This is not true for European and Israeli jews who are mostly republican. VVVV Trump said that Mexican immigrants are rapists and SOME are possibly maybe good people. The Nastier Nate fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 20:28
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Alter Ego posted:Every time Trump says something offensive about Mexicans or Muslims or black people or whatever, the civilized world cringes--but Republicans eat it up and his poll numbers jump. Bernie says some women have rape fantasies: "IT WASNT A GENERAL STATEMENT OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT ITS NBD" Trump says some Mexican immigrants are rapists: "HOW CAN ANYONE SUPPORT THIS RACIST MONSTER"
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Jul 17, 2015 20:29
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Shageletic posted:However Brisket and Challah are only at 14%? My respect for American Jews just went way down.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:30
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Bernie says some women have rape fantasies: "IT WASNT A GENERAL STATEMENT OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT ITS NBD" Um...not sure where you're going with this, but if you're seriously comparing something that Bernie Sanders wrote in college to something Donald Trump said (and has doubled and tripled down on) like a few weeks ago... And btw context is important in both cases, seeing as how the context for Trump's statement was that he was trying to illustrate how all browns are subhuman monsters. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Bernie says some women have rape fantasies: "IT WASNT A GENERAL STATEMENT OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT ITS NBD" Lol
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Jul 17, 2015 20:34
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Bernie says some women have rape fantasies: "IT WASNT A GENERAL STATEMENT OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT ITS NBD" Hillary doesn't talk about rape fantasies or accuse anyone about being rapists. 
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Bernie says some women have rape fantasies: "IT WASNT A GENERAL STATEMENT OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT ITS NBD" Actually yes context is important in both cases. Bernie: made weird comment about women having rape fantasies to illustrate that patriarchal gender arrangements are damaging, in 1970-something. Trump: made comment that Mexicans are largely rapists, that illegal immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate amount of rapes, in the service of inciting ethnic hatred and advocating an anti-immigration agenda. But I can see how the Bernie story is an attractive one for you to decontextualize and use to dispute unrelated statements.
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