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Earl of Lavender
Jul 29, 2007

This is not my beautiful house!!

This is not my beautiful wife!!!
Pillbug

Geoj posted:

I doubt the kind of doctor that would advertise on FM radio or a bus would give two shits about the long-term success rate once they get paid for the procedure.

That kind of attitude seems pretty short-sighted, if you ask me.

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minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

ElwoodCuse posted:

What's the current status of laser eye surgery? The way it was advertised always made it seem low-rent and "will it gently caress up your eyes in 10 years? who knows!" If it was a super safe, super easy solution to 20/20 vision for everyone, would it really need to be advertised on buses and FM radio?

I had LASIK in January 2005 and went from 20/400 and 20/300 (left and right eyes, respectively) to 20/15.

I had my eyes checked last December and it's still 20/15.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
My grandmother had eye surgery for cataracts. She isn't too much with it anymore, and knew it only as the laser eye surgery. I swear I am not making this up, but she told us that she wishes she never had it because now she cannot wear plastic-frame glasses because she is afraid that the lasers in her eyes will cause them to melt.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Antifreeze Head posted:

My grandmother had eye surgery for cataracts. She isn't too much with it anymore, and knew it only as the laser eye surgery. I swear I am not making this up, but she told us that she wishes she never had it because now she cannot wear plastic-frame glasses because she is afraid that the lasers in her eyes will cause them to melt.

Oh grandma.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Antifreeze Head posted:

My grandmother had eye surgery for cataracts. She isn't too much with it anymore, and knew it only as the laser eye surgery. I swear I am not making this up, but she told us that she wishes she never had it because now she cannot wear plastic-frame glasses because she is afraid that the lasers in her eyes will cause them to melt.

At least your grandma doesn't think a monitor and keyboard is a computer and after half an hour of over the phone tech support with her did I realise she did not in fact, have a laptop. Or after that she was in a panic because she couldnt get the mouse to move any further on the screen because the mouse was at the end of the mousepad. #justgrandmathings

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Antifreeze Head posted:

My grandmother had eye surgery for cataracts. She isn't too much with it anymore, and knew it only as the laser eye surgery. I swear I am not making this up, but she told us that she wishes she never had it because now she cannot wear plastic-frame glasses because she is afraid that the lasers in her eyes will cause them to melt.

Typically, the grandchild being told this is terminated.

Marius Pontmercy
Apr 2, 2007

Liberte
Egalite
Beyonce
My sweet 84 year old grandmother had wifi hooked up in her apartment so that she could download books on her kindle. Except she didn't plug the router and shoved it behind the bed. I spent two hours trying to get it theory over the phone with her. Finally she called a technician to come out and plug the thing in after she swore to me it was plugged in.
She now talks about the time I cost her $60.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Eponine posted:

My sweet 84 year old grandmother had wifi hooked up in her apartment so that she could download books on her kindle. Except she didn't plug the router and shoved it behind the bed. I spent two hours trying to get it theory over the phone with her. Finally she called a technician to come out and plug the thing in after she swore to me it was plugged in.
She now talks about the time I cost her $60.

Goddamn it I hate this poo poo so much. My parents are the worst at this.

I wonder in the 1900's if old people were like "I can't figure out how this indoor plumbing rage is catching on! I only put two days of chamberpot droppings in there and it clogged right up... WORTHLESS."

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

Bobby Digital posted:

I had LASIK in January 2005 and went from 20/400 and 20/300 (left and right eyes, respectively) to 20/15.

I had my eyes checked last December and it's still 20/15.

drat, that's a hell of an improvement. My contacts are -10.5 (don't know the exact distance, but I can't see poo poo with them out), and I've been on the fence for a while about getting LASIK. The fact that your eyes have stayed the same is reassuring.


I have a small recording studio and I used to run 2 different rackmount PCs with acoustic foam inside the cases to keep 'em dead quiet. I'm pretty sure that both small recording studios and rackmount PCs for them are obsolete, as nearly anyone can build their own studio for cheap and you can build a near-silent PC for way less than the $2000 mine cost. Also a rackmount PC is a bitch to work on, since you need to de-rack it every time you need to get inside.

On that note, stuff like the Boss BR8 and Yamaha AW16G are totally dead. They still sell some models but all-in-one recording devices are pretty pointless. It's much smarter to use a computer with an interface that supports ADAT and grab a few 8 channel ADAT A/D converters. It'll cost a little more, but then you're not limited to only the channels and effects that the recording box has built in. Hell, there are even digital mixers that have USB, so you can do 8in/8out or whatever with just the mixer and a USB cable.
And by learning a software DAW (Digital Audio Workstation), you can apply that knowledge to nearly any other DAW and be ready to record right off the bat. Also all the plugins you bought will most likely work with the new DAW, so no need to repurchase them.

E: Also I believe guitar amps are obsolete. Sure, they're used by tons of musicians, but an AxeFX will nail any tone you could possibly think of and will be indistinguishable from a "real" amps recorded tone. If you want stage volume and don't want to use the venue's monitoring system, you can run the AxeFX into a power amp and cab. Besides sounding as good as analog amps, it's way easier to carry to shows and will guarantee a consistent tone thanks to the global EQ it has.
People will always want the glowing tubes and the deafening volumes they produce, but I don't miss the maintenance, upkeep and costly troubleshooting my tube amps gave me.

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davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Antifreeze Head posted:

My grandmother had eye surgery for cataracts. She isn't too much with it anymore, and knew it only as the laser eye surgery. I swear I am not making this up, but she told us that she wishes she never had it because now she cannot wear plastic-frame glasses because she is afraid that the lasers in her eyes will cause them to melt.

Does your grandma sometimes shout JEEEEEAAAAN?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

ElwoodCuse posted:

What's the current status of laser eye surgery? The way it was advertised always made it seem low-rent and "will it gently caress up your eyes in 10 years? who knows!" If it was a super safe, super easy solution to 20/20 vision for everyone, would it really need to be advertised on buses and FM radio?

It's pretty safe. I remember reading all the horror stories before I had mine done 8 or 9 years ago. This one guy got infections and scarring and had to have the procedure redone multiple times and the doctor hosed up just about everything that could be hosed up. The result? He has to wear glasses and he sometimes gets halos at night. Not the desired result by any means, but that's with everything going wrong.

In the end it's a reset button for your eyes. I went from about 20/200 to 20/25. I will need glasses again at some point, but my vision will probably never be as bad as it was.

As for why it's not advertised as much anymore - everyone who wanted Lasik got Lasik. Sure there are always new patients, but nothing like the huge deluge of backed up demand there once was. So a lot of the providers went out of business and the ones that are left don't need to advertise as much to get patients.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

The Gasmask posted:

Also a rackmount PC is a bitch to work on, since you need to de-rack it every time you need to get inside.

Get some rack rails and a cable management arm, mount the system around waist to chest level in the rack. If you need to work on it pull the system out on its rails and remove the top, work on it in place.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

davidspackage posted:

Does your grandma sometimes shout JEEEEEAAAAN?

At least then we would have known she was telling a joke, though how she knew about the X-Men would have baffled us. And maybe it was a joke that we just didn't pick up on it. It is sometimes hard to say what is going on with her because sometimes she can't even figure out how to tune a digital radio (like, the sort that doesn't have the wheel to move to adjust the tuning) and she will refer to the Apple store and Applebees as if they are the same thing. I mean, I am sure she would have if she stood in each of the different businesses, but having never been to either, they were one in the same in her mind. On the upside, at least she is with it enough to know Applebees is pretty poo poo, but it is generally horrible because she sometimes has no idea what is going on in the world and gets upset when we point it out, so we've taken to just letting her bask in her ignorance because it is easier on us.

That's bleak, so let's look at a bit of medical quackery:



Coincidental premonition there with the colour of the light considering how some 100 years later a little blue pill was going to do what this hoped to.

I took that photo at the Quackery Hall of Fame at the science museum in Minneapolis (which is really in St. Paul). Worth having a look if you end up passing through, and it has a mummy on display in a corner that is rather oddly plunked down in a corner and surrounded by interactive exhibits for children.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Wasabi the J posted:

Goddamn it I hate this poo poo so much. My parents are the worst at this.

I wonder in the 1900's if old people were like "I can't figure out how this indoor plumbing rage is catching on! I only put two days of chamberpot droppings in there and it clogged right up... WORTHLESS."

I got into a HUGE argument with my parents a few weeks ago because my dad won't stop putting gas with ethanol in it in the lawn mower.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

C.M. Kruger posted:

I got into a HUGE argument with my parents a few weeks ago because my dad won't stop putting gas with ethanol in it in the lawn mower.

To be fair,

1) Not everyone knows that there's ethanol in their gas
2) Not everyone knows gas with ethanol is bad for carbonated engines
3) There might not be any gas stations within reasonable distance that have ethanol-free gas.

But if they do know 1+ 2, and they can get ethanol-free gas, then there's no excuse.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

DrBouvenstein posted:

To be fair,

1) Not everyone knows that there's ethanol in their gas
2) Not everyone knows gas with ethanol is bad for carbonated engines
3) There might not be any gas stations within reasonable distance that have ethanol-free gas.

But if they do know 1+ 2, and they can get ethanol-free gas, then there's no excuse.

v0v I've been running E10/15 in my carburated lawnmower for five years now, never had an issue.

Also places that sell ethanol free gas are usually wary about selling it to you if you aren't directly pumping it into a boat or airplane, and most tracks that sell race gas only carry very high octane fuel that more often than not is leaded.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Mixing fuel stabilizer into your gas to prevent it from turning to varnish and keeping the tank topped up so it breathes less during temperature changes (which limits the amount of airborne moisture the ethanol can mix with) solves like 90% of fuel related problems. Or you can get ethanol-free gas (and stabilizer if it'll be around for 30+ days) and not have to deal with it.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The Gasmask posted:

drat, that's a hell of an improvement. My contacts are -10.5 (don't know the exact distance, but I can't see poo poo with them out), and I've been on the fence for a while about getting LASIK. The fact that your eyes have stayed the same is reassuring.

You're legally blind?

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

DrBouvenstein posted:

carbonated engines

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

I blame phone posting.

Kidney Stone
Dec 28, 2008

The worst pain ever!

The Gasmask posted:

drat, that's a hell of an improvement. My contacts are -10.5 (don't know the exact distance, but I can't see poo poo with them out), and I've been on the fence for a while about getting LASIK. The fact that your eyes have stayed the same is reassuring.

Not to turn this into a LASIK chat, but my eyesight was, before LASIK, -11 and -13, after LASIK it ended up being -3 and -2.75.

You should get it done :)

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

ElwoodCuse posted:

What's the current status of laser eye surgery? The way it was advertised always made it seem low-rent and "will it gently caress up your eyes in 10 years? who knows!" If it was a super safe, super easy solution to 20/20 vision for everyone, would it really need to be advertised on buses and FM radio?

I had LASIK done in 2000 and it was the best idea I ever had. I absolute love it. Going from 20/250 to 20/10 was incredible

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Jedit posted:

You're legally blind?

No, because their eyesight can be corrected. The legal threshold for blindness is 20/200 or worse with correction.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

Inco posted:

No, because their eyesight can be corrected. The legal threshold for blindness is 20/200 or worse with correction.

Yeah. Without my contacts/glasses my vision is terrible, to the point where i wouldn't be able to function in society, but since it can be corrected with lenses to 20/20 or close I'm not considered legally blind. Without my contacts the farthest something will be in focus is about 4-5" away from my eyes - that's really not far, and someone 10 feet away would be a blob of color (which I probably couldn't see anyways thanks to colorblindness, lol).

Critical
Aug 23, 2007

I'm 20/blind as gently caress in my left eye with corrective lenses. I've been told multiple times not to bother with LASIK even though it could correct my right eye. This bummed me out because I'm stereoblind as poo poo.

Went to a Gravity in 3D with a friend because they really wanted the 3D tickets. Tossed the glasses on because of the blurring on the screen and almost had a panic attack because the bolt was flying out of the screen at me. No loving idea how this works but I see every movie I can in 3D now.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Lasik is good.

Also theres this now:
http://enchroma.com

(expensive though)

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Lasik is good.

Also theres this now:
http://enchroma.com

(expensive though)

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBbCsNS8nco

It'll be cool when these glasses are obsolete technology and it's just built into contact lenses.

And we've come full circle.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
I'd love to get lasik but I can't as I have keratoconus (distorting of the cornea) I've had some surgery done on my eyes to stop it getting worse and also have an intac ring fitted in my left eye to reduce the keratoconus but I'm still going to have to use glasses/contacts for the rest of my life, I am quite lucky though as many who have this condition require rigid lenses which are incredibly uncomfortable, I get pretty bad ghosting in my left eye and slight ghosting in my right eye it's very weird and can be a problem when driving at night.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I would love to toss my contacts, but the idea of anything going near my eye makes me incredibly uncomfortable.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Have you guys seen an ophthalmologist?

I went a few months ago and needed cataract surgery even though I'm really young. My vision has improved drastically and I can drive without glasses. I was like 20/70 before even with glasses.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
I've thought about getting LASIK, but I think I'd still wear glasses afterwards, even if I don't need them. I just dislike my face without them

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

Gaz2k21 posted:

I'd love to get lasik but I can't as I have keratoconus (distorting of the cornea) I've had some surgery done on my eyes to stop it getting worse and also have an intac ring fitted in my left eye to reduce the keratoconus but I'm still going to have to use glasses/contacts for the rest of my life, I am quite lucky though as many who have this condition require rigid lenses which are incredibly uncomfortable, I get pretty bad ghosting in my left eye and slight ghosting in my right eye it's very weird and can be a problem when driving at night.

Have you considered becoming a paranormal detective?

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Ah... Eyes. I remember eyes.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

sinking belle posted:

Ah... Eyes. I remember eyes.

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes.

My eyes suck. My prescription is -13.75/-13.5. LASIK would not help me much.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Johnny Aztec posted:

I would love to toss my contacts, but the idea of anything going near my eye makes me incredibly uncomfortable.

My LASIK surgery took 22 minutes total a from the time I walked into the doctor's office to the time I left. The process is absolutely painless and you don't see anything out of the eye they're working on until the surgery is done. The exam takes about an hour and is pretty non-intrusive as well. Do it.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Non Serviam posted:

I've thought about getting LASIK, but I think I'd still wear glasses afterwards, even if I don't need them. I just dislike my face without them

Yeah, as much as I'd like to be able to wear sunglasses casually in the summer, I prefer having regular glasses.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
Eyes are a failed tech, you heard it here first!

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Geoj posted:



Also places that sell ethanol free gas are usually wary about selling it to you if you aren't directly pumping it into a boat or airplane

What kind of of shithole planet do you live on? On my planet, a gas station isn't "wary" about selling anyone anything and if you're using a credit card, you don't have to interact with a human to get any kind of gas you want. Why would anyone be wary about selling the kind of gas that was standard everywhere until about 10 years ago?

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Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
It could be like red diesel, which is taxed at a lower rate and can only be legally used in vehicles not driven on the street. If a gas station is caught allowing customers to fill their truck with it, they can be subject to major fines.

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