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Cricket
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Blackface in crowd 129 55.36%
References to Lord of the Rings 104 44.64%
Total: 233 votes
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Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Dead Goon posted:

I think it's fair enough to prepare a pitch to negate Mitch, but don't prepare a pitch that negates the England bowlers as well.

Hard to do. You want it slow but with seam movement - but Haze can seam, Lyon will enjoy the turn and is the only experienced specialist spinner in either squad, and the Mitchells will have their tails up after this Test and will gladly bowl fast and full which kind of makes the pitch condition a moot point.

And if you gently caress it up like Lord's here and get no moment, the Australians have a place advantage anyway.

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Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD

Dead Goon posted:

I think it's fair enough to prepare a pitch to negate Mitch, but don't prepare a pitch that negates the England bowlers as well.

A pitch that helps the English bowlers will help the Australian bowlers. England are better off preparing a decent wicket and hoping poo poo Mitch turns up, honestly.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Need to pray for weather that lets it swing full loops.

Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011

Are there as many Mitchell's in the general Australian population as the cricket team makes it seem like there would be?

Burn Down Canberra
Oct 27, 2005

GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Especially with how fragile the Australian batting card is. Madness that they don't try and beat Australia there.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Look, then I think you're right, but look we could have done something else.

But look.

Look.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Hey look um

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
Last time Johnson played at Lord's (2009) his match figures were 3/200 so this was a pretty good comeback.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Australia bowled okay but England has consistently gone 3 down for about 40 runs regardless of whose doing the bowling. The whole top order play like retards.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
England lost this match mentally. They let the pitch get to their bowlers, which let Australia put on a rather untroubled 500 in the first innings. Then they let the scoreboard pressure get to their batsmen, whose top order once again fell apart. Then the 2nd innings they came out acting like they'd already lost. There were 2 genuine great balls to get wickets in the 2nd english innings. Lyth got a great one, and Ali faced a spell of hostile short pitch bowling that I dont think many batsmen would have survived.

The rest of the order either missed straight ones or waved at things they should, and did in the first innings, leave.

Its a perfect example of how fragile that team is.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Did our brave Aussie boys sit down and have a beer with the Valiant English losers tonight?

Still B.A.E
Mar 24, 2012

I've got a right man crush on Mitchell Johnson, drat he's a stud.

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

gently caress me, England Collapse.txt I don't think they can recover from this mentally, this wasn't a cricketing ability loss, this was all in their head.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
Bairstow for Ballance, Bell to 3, Root to 4, Stokes to 5, Bairstow at 6

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Up at 3am, check score....

:stare:

Holy gently caress did not expect that - What an amazing demolition and proof that flat pitches to negate Mitches wont work. They have to spice up Edgebaston to give the English bowlers a hope in hell of containing Smith / Rogers, let alone Warner and Clarke showing they too are coming into form. Nevill is a good repalcement to Haddin, Mitch Marsh ended Watson's test career.

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
Holy hell that was a pretty funny thing to wake up to.

So after all the pre-series nonsense about Smith, it turns out it's actually the entire England side that can't bat under English conditions :laugh:

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

monkeu posted:

it turns out it's actually the entire England side that can't bat

Airstream Driver
May 6, 2009

Smith now averages 58.5. Was 39 last October.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Fell asleep in front of the TV just after Stokes was run out so I'm not surprised by the capitulation. Gunna do some hearty lols if it rains all day tomorrow

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice
Nap Ghost
Lots of talk about a lovely pitch but how about England doesn't pick goblins and gingers to hold bats and find actual good batsmen.

Like, in Ireland maybe?

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Did someone forget to tell England to turn up for the afternoon session?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

-Spiffy- posted:

Lots of talk about a lovely pitch but how about England doesn't pick goblins and gingers to hold bats and find actual good batsmen.

Like, in Ireland maybe?

The last few Irish we poached were rubbish.

Boonys Cut Shot
Nov 5, 2004

Elite athlete

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Why the hell is Dharmasena further back than Ballance?

EMC
Aug 17, 2004

Spedman posted:

Why the hell is Dharmasena further back than Ballance?

Keeping an eye on the stumps for when he inevitably steps on them

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

offballance.jpg

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice

lmao dat technique

Airstream Driver
May 6, 2009


Has he always batted this far back or did someone 'fix' him?

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

:qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq:

Negligent posted:

Just purely from a statistical point of view for the last series the team that wins the toss tends to win the game

bbc posted up an interesting stat, from the last 20 years including this match, the amount of wins/losses from batting first is actually even at 327 wins and 327 losses, with 237 draws. so its probably not as much of an advantage as people first assume

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice
Nap Ghost
Winning the toss doesn't necessarily mean you bat first though.

I think they should at least try to coin toss the first test then alternate the decision for every test after. I bet the pitches would be doctored accordingly but that's probably gonna happen anyway.

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

:qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq:

-Spiffy- posted:

Winning the toss doesn't necessarily mean you bat first though.

oh yeah thats true. i just liked that stat haha

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Australia made two changes to win at Lords, what two changes can England make?

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Bring back watto

Burn Down Canberra
Oct 27, 2005

GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Airstream Driver posted:

Has he always batted this far back or did someone 'fix' him?

I cannot believe any batting coach would have a guy that far back driving. Imagine him driving like that in Australia. The ball would be on his handle Ffs

gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1

-Spiffy- posted:

Winning the toss doesn't necessarily mean you bat first though.

I think they should at least try to coin toss the first test then alternate the decision for every test after. I bet the pitches would be doctored accordingly but that's probably gonna happen anyway.

Yeah I was a proponent for this for years but I think the potential for doctoring is too high.

I'd actually be happy with the away team choosing every match, balancing out home country advantage a little. Let the home team create whatever pitch they think will suit their bowlers and batsmen, but they'd have to do so with the knowledge that the visitors get the option.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Burn Down Canberra posted:

I cannot believe any batting coach would have a guy that far back driving. Imagine him driving like that in Australia. The ball would be on his handle Ffs

Probably works great on a dreary strip of mud against some washed up county hack.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Can the poms afford to drop Anderson? He didn't take a wicket and seemed to have a problem even running off the pitch.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice

Stokes is an idiot but this rule is bad. He is obviously behind the crease.

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iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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It's not a complicated rule if you're not a loving idiot like Stokes was. 10 year old children understand the concept that you need something touching the ground behind the line; this isn't unique to cricket...

iajanus fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jul 20, 2015

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