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There are standard gas stations in the US that still sell standard, non-ethanol fuel. The poster from "the other planet" likely thought of places that sell specialty gas like oxygenated race fuel or AvGas. Edit: But even those places don't bat an eye about selling their stuff to whomever. I used to fuel up my jetski at a walk up pump at a small regional airport.
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Imagined posted:What kind of of shithole planet do you live on? On my planet, a gas station isn't "wary" about selling anyone anything and if you're using a credit card, you don't have to interact with a human to get any kind of gas you want. Why would anyone be wary about selling the kind of gas that was standard everywhere until about 10 years ago? My guess would be federal regulations requiring ethanol in gas sold for on-road use. Also on my "shithole" planet there is one gas station within an hour's drive that sells ethanol-free 87 octane. Its a marina. It has an old pump without a credit card reader so you have to talk to someone to buy it, and from what I've read online if you aren't putting it in a boat they don't want to sell to you because they have a limited supply. So aside from the fact that they probably wouldn't sell it to me I'm not going to drive 50 miles one way to buy ethanol free gas for my lawnmower when it hasn't given me any issues for half a decade with normal pump gas. Sorry if that offends you. Also, you could try not being an rear end in a top hat when you reply to people.
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Jul 19, 2015 17:55
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I love my 40v electric mower. It came with two batteries, which is more than enough to do my front and back yards with room to spare. It folds up, can be stored in any orientation, weighs much less and is relatively quiet. Using gasoline in a residential lawnmower is obsolete tech.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:02
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SLOSifl posted:I love my 40v electric mower. It came with two batteries, which is more than enough to do my front and back yards with room to spare. It folds up, can be stored in any orientation, weighs much less and is relatively quiet. This forever. The best part about an electric battery powered mower is you can start and stop whenever you want for any reason. Maintenance is limited to charging the batteries and keeping grass from building up and no exhaust is great too. No oil, no liquids, no leaks, no smells. If you're really on board you can use those same batteries with trimmers and blowers too!
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Jul 19, 2015 21:17
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Can I ride an electric lawnmower while drinking beer? I thought so.
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Jul 19, 2015 21:22
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CannonFodder posted:Can I ride an electric lawnmower while drinking beer? I thought so. Yes? They exist, so why couldn't you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx8qsUB7cNI
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Jul 19, 2015 23:11
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TotalLossBrain posted:I used to fuel up my jetski at a walk up pump at a small regional airport. Why?
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Jul 19, 2015 23:36
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Geoj posted:My guess would be federal regulations requiring ethanol in gas sold for on-road use. There aren't any. I mean, there are requirements that such-and-such a quantity of renewable fuels are sold each year, but if a gas station can find someone willing to supply it with ethanol-free gas, there's absolutely nothing illegal with you filling your car or your boat or your lawnmower or your vibrator up with it.
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Jul 19, 2015 23:56
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The only federal regulation I know about in the U.S. is if a nozzle pumps both pure gas and ethanol gas, you have to pump at least four gallons of gas to clear out any residual. Most gas stations I see that have both types separate them into different nozzles, though.
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Jul 20, 2015 00:03
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Non-motorized reel mowers are even better than electric. There's no maintenance beyond adjusting the blade once every couple of years and they're no harder to push than a powered mower after the initial push to get it moving, yet it's the type of mower that's considered obsolete.
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Jul 20, 2015 00:13
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Cat Hatter posted:Why? Ethanol is apparently bad for fiberglass gas tanks, and anything that isn't run a lot because it can hold like 1% or something water. Boats/jetskis are basically all fiberglass. I think there's some additives you can add or it might not be an issue in newer boats but lots of boats people are still using are 15+ years old when it wasn't really a concern and you could get E0 pretty much everywhere.
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Jul 20, 2015 00:33
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Plinkey posted:Ethanol is apparently bad for fiberglass gas tanks, and anything that isn't run a lot because it can hold like 1% or something water. Boats/jetskis are basically all fiberglass. I think there's some aves you can add or it might not be an issue in newer boats but lots of boats people are still using are 15+ years old when it wasn't really a concern and you could get E0 pretty much everywhere. You're overthinking it. It wasn't ethanol free I was after, but rather the higher octane of the AvGas. It's not as powerful as standard or racing fuel at similar octane levels, but it does provide about 100 octane for just a buck more than standard pump gas. High compression 2-strokes need high octane fuel. AvGas is a cheap way to get it. All that said, ethanol is terrible for various seals and rubber diaphragms in the carburetors of older 2-stroke skis.
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Jul 20, 2015 00:43
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TotalLossBrain posted:All that said, ethanol is terrible for various seals and rubber diaphragms in the carburetors of older 2-stroke skis. Ah, I only knew about the ethanol messing up seals and stuff, and the only place around here to find it is at marinas or small specialty gas stations near tracks (or close to docks/marinas).
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Jul 20, 2015 00:47
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Cat Hatter posted:Why? Ethanol eats seals and gaskets, unless they're designed to deal with ethanol. E10, E15, it's not a big deal, you can run those in gasoline engines and it won't hurt anything, although since ethanol doesn't have the volumetric energy density of gasoline you'll take a mileage hit (which pretty much offsets the supposed environmental benefit of ethanol's "renewability"). E85 will ruin engines. Again, unless those engines have been designed with ethanol in mind. Ethanol is theoretically a decent idea. In Brazil, where they make it from switchgrass, a weed that nobody wants and which grows on really marginal land, it might be a good idea. In the USA, where we make it from corn which could otherwise be used to feed people, it's a retarded loving idea that wouldn't exist it all were it not for stupid laws and is nothing more than a transfer payment to Monsanto and ConAgra; it's a net energy sink that doesn't help anyone unless you happen to own one of the refineries that turns perfectly good corn into useless ethanol for cars. http://www.technologyreview.com/news/423385/ethanol-blamed-for-record-food-prices/
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Jul 20, 2015 01:07
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I don't think I've ever seen a gas pump that didn't offer non-ethanol gas. You usually see two nozzles with ethanol, one without, and then a diesel nozzle.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:48
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pookel posted:I don't think I've ever seen a gas pump that didn't offer non-ethanol gas. You usually see two nozzles with ethanol, one without, and then a diesel nozzle. Where the hell do you live? I don't think I've seen one without ethanol in the last ten years here in southeast Pennsylvania.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:30
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0toShifty posted:Where the hell do you live? I don't think I've seen one without ethanol in the last ten years here in southeast Pennsylvania. No kidding. I haven't seen one for almost 2 decades. http://pure-gas.org/ has a list of pumps that dispense ethanol-free gas. It's not big.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:36
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Like most things in the US, there seems to be a large degree of regional variation:
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Jul 20, 2015 02:53
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0toShifty posted:Where the hell do you live? I don't think I've seen one without ethanol in the last ten years here in southeast Pennsylvania.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:55
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pookel posted:I don't think I've ever seen a gas pump that didn't offer non-ethanol gas. You usually see two nozzles with ethanol, one without, and then a diesel nozzle. Yep. Just about every large (more than 4 pumps) gas station here has both ethanol and non-ethanol pumps. Living in one of the most retarded states in Jesusland (three separate national headline embarrassments this week!) , I get so excited whenever I find out we do even the tiniest little thing better or smarter than somewhere else. Imagined has a new favorite as of 03:48 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 03:46
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I'm aware of the potential problems with ethanol in gas, I was just wondering why he was using avgas since most two strokes don't even require premium, but it sounds like he was running a higher than usual compression ratio. Dissolving seals/fuel lines/fuel tanks is really a crap-shoot depending on what they decided to use in your particular machine. I have a riding mower built during the Iran Hostage Crisis that runs just fine while many people had the carbs on their half as old equipment fall apart. I would prefer they go back to paying farmers not to grow anything than mandating that their corn be used to make gas shittier.
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Jul 20, 2015 04:02
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if only there were a way to turn useless stupid boring derails into clean fuel
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Jul 20, 2015 04:52
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At least this derail is almost about something instead of everyone talking about the particular way they pay for things electronically, the last time they've seen a check, whether their gas pumps can be used hands-free, the best way to wipe their rear end etc.
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Jul 20, 2015 06:06
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hailthefish posted:Like most things in the US, there seems to be a large degree of regional variation: Well at least you did really post a picture of something obsolete and very much failed 
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Jul 20, 2015 06:27
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gas stations around here sell jugs with alkylate fuel for lawn mowers, outboard motors and other small engines without catalysts. it's basically extra pure refined gasoline.
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Jul 20, 2015 09:45
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Re: small engines, when I worked at the cemetery we switched to "eco gas" for our small lawn mowers and leaf blowers etc. and I think it was made from trees or something? Anyway it smelled nothing like gas and to prove to a really dumb co-worker (the same one who did believe me when I told him albatrosses who die mid-glide just keep flying for years and years because they have a special bone that locks in place when gliding so they don't need to use any muscle force to keep their wings rigid and it's so cold at the high altitudes they fly in that they don't rot - not that there are any decomposers that high up anyway - but didn't believe me when I told him that kiwi birds exist) that it wasn't water I poured some on the ground and lit it. So maybe I poured a bit more than was necessary and he started panicking because the fire wouldn't go out and it was in the middle of a cemetery so there were quite a bit of people about. After running in a circle for a few moments, shouting "NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION! NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION!" he proceeded to try to put out the fire with a small piece of styrofoam. I don't know where I was going with this but that was my gasoline story hope you enjoyed it. (He also didn't believe in Parking Zorro.)
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Jul 20, 2015 09:56
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Obsolete and failed: my posting 
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:if only there were a way to turn useless stupid boring derails into clean fuel
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Jul 20, 2015 14:34
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My eyes are so hosed up that they won't lasik me, apparently it's too risky. Hell, I can't even get contacts that you can sleep in, they don't make them for my eyes. Having lovely eyes sucks.
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Jul 20, 2015 18:56
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Jerry Cotton posted:Re: small engines, when I worked at the cemetery we switched to "eco gas" for our small lawn mowers and leaf blowers etc. and I think it was made from trees or something? Anyway it smelled nothing like gas and to prove to a really dumb co-worker (the same one who did believe me when I told him albatrosses who die mid-glide just keep flying for years and years because they have a special bone that locks in place when gliding so they don't need to use any muscle force to keep their wings rigid and it's so cold at the high altitudes they fly in that they don't rot - not that there are any decomposers that high up anyway - but didn't believe me when I told him that kiwi birds exist) that it wasn't water I poured some on the ground and lit it. So maybe I poured a bit more than was necessary and he started panicking because the fire wouldn't go out and it was in the middle of a cemetery so there were quite a bit of people about. After running in a circle for a few moments, shouting "NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION! NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION!" he proceeded to try to put out the fire with a small piece of styrofoam. yes yes I enjoyed it very much!
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Jul 20, 2015 19:06
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ranbo das posted:My eyes are so hosed up that they won't lasik me, apparently it's too risky. Hell, I can't even get contacts that you can sleep in, they don't make them for my eyes. Well yes unless you're really really tiny I think you'll find you can't really sleep in contact lenses regardless of eye health.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Re: small engines, when I worked at the cemetery we switched to "eco gas" for our small lawn mowers and leaf blowers etc. and I think it was made from trees or something? Anyway it smelled nothing like gas and to prove to a really dumb co-worker (the same one who did believe me when I told him albatrosses who die mid-glide just keep flying for years and years because they have a special bone that locks in place when gliding so they don't need to use any muscle force to keep their wings rigid and it's so cold at the high altitudes they fly in that they don't rot - not that there are any decomposers that high up anyway - but didn't believe me when I told him that kiwi birds exist) that it wasn't water I poured some on the ground and lit it. So maybe I poured a bit more than was necessary and he started panicking because the fire wouldn't go out and it was in the middle of a cemetery so there were quite a bit of people about. After running in a circle for a few moments, shouting "NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION! NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION!" he proceeded to try to put out the fire with a small piece of styrofoam. Have to love the ignorant for the one thing they are able to give back to the community, our enjoyment.
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Jul 20, 2015 19:27
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:My LASIK surgery took 22 minutes total a from the time I walked into the doctor's office to the time I left. The process is absolutely painless and you don't see anything out of the eye they're working on until the surgery is done. The exam takes about an hour and is pretty non-intrusive as well. Do it. Yeah, definitely don't mention the burning smell. I was told it was just the laser outgassing, but I'm pretty sure it was my cornea cooking. I can't do anything foreign near my eyeball. I can't even keep my eyes open for camera flashes. As a result they had to tape my eyelids back and I'm pretty sure the vision in my right eye is worse than my left eye solely because I couldn't stop uncontrollably twitching. Still a success. Burning tissue smells and all.
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Jul 20, 2015 19:29
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ranbo das posted:My eyes are so hosed up that they won't lasik me, apparently it's too risky. Hell, I can't even get contacts that you can sleep in, they don't make them for my eyes. I had thin corneas apparently, so they wouldn't LASIK me either. I ended up getting ICL surgery instead, and I am very happy. I can't say whether you would be eligible without knowing what issue disqualified you from the LASIK.
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Jul 20, 2015 19:38
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Sleeping in contacts sucks either way so you don't have to feel sad about that.
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Jul 20, 2015 19:57
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Jerry Cotton posted:Well yes unless you're really really tiny I think you'll find you can't really sleep in contact lenses regardless of eye health. Non-continuous wear contact lenses are obsolete and failed technology. I wear my lenses 24/7 for 30 days straight.
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My eyes aren't terrible (I only wear my glasses for distance) but I remember watching a documentary years ago about LASIK and... Is it still true that they basically have to slice open the membrane at the front your eye to do it? 
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robodex posted:My eyes aren't terrible (I only wear my glasses for distance) but I remember watching a documentary years ago about LASIK and... Is it still true that they basically have to slice open the membrane at the front your eye to do it? Not just the membrane, the cornea. I had laser PRK earlier this year. They burn off the membrane with an alcohol solution then use the laser to burn off the top layers of the cornea. You have to grow a new epithelial layer.
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robodex posted:My eyes aren't terrible (I only wear my glasses for distance) but I remember watching a documentary years ago about LASIK and... Is it still true that they basically have to slice open the membrane at the front your eye to do it? I thought they had made advancements with this because they had to slice and peel back my dad's cornea when he had it done 10+ years ago. Nowadays they dont slice and peel, they have this thing like the drill-bit you use to cut the doorknob hole out of doors, or one of those things that cuts out apple cores. slices a full circle of your cornea out, they laser underneath then pop the circle back out and place it back exactly where it was cut out. It heals in a day or two. I thought they had lasers that could pass through cornea layers but nope.
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