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The pressure from media and advertisers became a maelstrom. "This is one situation I can't blog my way out of," he blogged.
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DJExile posted:A hit piece is kind of silly too because you really can't do any more damage to Reddit than they already do to themselves. This is the place that gave birth to MRAs and actively defended the posting of child porn, and is now apparently collapsing in on itself. Reddit is only eating itself among the passionate turbo-nerds that care dearly about the site's administration's war against Men's Rights and free speech and blah blah blah, which leaves several million users who go there for AMAs, video game trailers, and pictures of horses. In the popular, non-goon consciousness, Reddit is just a big loving website. Hand Row posted:Can Bill Barnwell be the guy who leaves at the end of the year? God he is going to inherit the NFL picks column isn't he? Every pick is made according to each team's point differential, which is the natural adult evolution from the "which team has more wins" strategy I used in the pick'em game I played with my dad when I was 8.
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"Make this into an advertising company then! Say what it really is! It’s not a place for journalism!" A quote from a gawker writer who used to work at the NYT. Any time anyone in that site talks about journalism I kind of die a little bit
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I hope you're excited for Bill Simmons Unfiltered Richard Deitsch @richarddeitsch Bill Simmons will be hosting a weekly television show for HBO starting in 2016. Details to follow later today.
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Poonerman posted:I hope you're excited for Bill Simmons Unfiltered More details on WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/07/22/bill-simmons-lands-at-hbo-with-multi-platform-deal/
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ScooterMcTiny posted:More details on WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/07/22/bill-simmons-lands-at-hbo-with-multi-platform-deal/ HBO using him for video podcasts is a really smart move as they look to increase and leverage HBO Go specific content.
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he's kind of annoying but at the same time I kind of enjoy him. Considering the success of grantland and 30:30 I think that's an awesome landing spot for him.
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Jul 22, 2015 17:23
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So he's just not going to write anymore?
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davecrazy posted:So he's just not going to write anymore? This would be a win, but the article makes it sound like they just have exclusive TV rights to him; I assume he could probably still write somewhere else if he wanted to.
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Jul 22, 2015 17:26
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I mean this is either going to be incredibly entertaining or unfathomably horrible, so either way it's a win.
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First fifty guests: every character from the Wire
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HBO finally found a sports host blacker than Bryant Gumbel, congrats
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There is no more overrated person in american culture than Bill Simmons. His success is really really baffling.
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He is an extremely bad writer with dumb opinions who got really lucky with his timing but he has been involved in plenty of genuinely good things.
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davecrazy posted:So he's just not going to write anymore? I hope he still writes. Half his value to me is "long column you can read to kill time. "
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HBO is co-owned with Bleacher Report I'm giving them ideas 
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Is the "video podcast" his show or something different? One of the nice things about his ESPN podcast was how timely it could be. Something big happens and he could get someone on the phone and have a podcast out the next day. If they gave him the freedom to throw up a podcast anytime he wants in addition to his weekly show it would be nice. He'll also have some more editorial freedom at HBO I imagine and won't have to bleep out stuff either.
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Vertical Lime posted:HBO is co-owned with Bleacher Report huh, for some reason i thought HBO was an independent company.
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It's a good match. HBO has almost no sports programming or other sports media personalities, so Bill can go to town on leagues, cozy business deals, and other broadcasters and writers in a way that he could not at ESPN.
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FMguru posted:It's a good match. HBO has almost no sports programming or other sports media personalities, so Bill can go to town on leagues, cozy business deals, and other broadcasters and writers in a way that he could not at ESPN. That's not quite accurate. Their the biggest player in boxing and have a relationship with the NFL that goes back 30 or so years. Also they do the 24/7 series with the NHL.
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davecrazy posted:Also they do the 24/7 series with the NHL. Road to the Winter Classic 24/7 is now on Epix. And the proper way to announce this should've been "Simmons HBO" or whatever the gently caress that errant Randy Moss tweet of his was.
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davecrazy posted:That's not quite accurate. Their the biggest player in boxing and have a relationship with the NFL that goes back 30 or so years. Also they do the 24/7 series with the NHL. They don't have Inside the NFL or Hardknocks any more though. They pretty much just have boxing, Real Sports, and the good but extremely generic documentaries.
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They still have Hard Knocks. But, the more I think of it, if they let John Oliver insult CNN anything is fair game.
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Vertical Lime posted:They still have Hard Knocks. Do they? For some reason I thought it was an NFL Network thing now, I guess because they replay it a ton.
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MourningView posted:Do they? For some reason I thought it was an NFL Network thing now, I guess because they replay it a ton. Yeah Hard Knocks is HBO's
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Simmons isn't a very good content creator, but he is very good at knowing what content will be popular. His early career was just writing the stuff that no one else was, and everyone ate it up. None of it was written well, but he identified a niche. Grantland and 30 for 30 are the same thing. Even his podcast and videos, he knows who to bring on, what to talk about, then his best moments are when he just shuts up. I think a regular show might not be great, but it's worth a gamble for HBO. Simmons is usually good at getting out of his own way, so maybe he'll format it to his strengths. I have to imagine he is being given lots of rope.
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Will the video podcast be available in audio form? I enjoy the BS report, but not so much that I'm going to sit down on the couch and commit an hour to watching the thing.
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Frackie Robinson posted:Will the video podcast be available in audio form? I enjoy the BS report, but not so much that I'm going to sit down on the couch and commit an hour to watching the thing. Exactly. I just want to listen to him and Sal picking the spreads on the way to work. Although I wonder if Sal's employer will sanction his appearances elsewhere.
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Woj re-upped with Yahoo after coming close to signing with Sports Illustrated. For whatever reason SI wasn't comfortable paying him over $1 million a year
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morestuff posted:Woj re-upped with Yahoo after coming close to signing with Sports Illustrated. For whatever reason SI wasn't comfortable paying him over $1 million a year I didn't know he left ESPN
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chunkles posted:I wonder what the actual value of having Woj is. I mean, it's not like people are flocking to the site to read his opinion pieces Yeah he's really good at his job but the thing he does best is breaking stuff on twitter really early which I assume does not make anyone any money. Within two seconds it gets retweeted seven thousand times and every other site has a story about it.
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MourningView posted:Yeah he's really good at his job but the thing he does best is breaking stuff on twitter really early which I assume does not make anyone any money. Within two seconds it gets retweeted seven thousand times and every other site has a story about it. Everyone follows him and sometimes clicks on the articles he tweets out because they sound good and you sorta forget Woj wrote it.
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Breaking stories on Twitter is good for your brand, nobody ask me if that ever translates into actually making money, profitability is for your grandpa's internet.
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Frackie Robinson posted:I didn't know he left ESPN Who? Adrian Wojnarowski? He's been at yahoo since forever. chunkles posted:I wonder what the actual value of having Woj is. I mean, it's not like people are flocking to the site to read his opinion pieces Yeah, I don't think yahoo can monetize re-tweets. I guess he links to articles on his scoops. I'm not a big fan. He breaks news that would otherwise come out a few minutes later anyway. And he returns the favour to his sources by writing crazy near-propaganda pieces. If I were someone trying to put out high quality journalism(SI, for example) I'd steer clear.
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Frackie Robinson posted:I didn't know he left ESPN  He's been at Yahoo since 2007.
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