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CCKeane posted:2) My logic is inconsistent, but goes something like this: "My read on this guy is X, but I'm terrible at reading, so I must be wrong. Therefore, they are actually Y." Again, that logic has been used inconsistently without me noticing until now. That was my reasoning on the Opop and MMT. Basically, I know from previous experience that I am absolutely terrible at reading scum. I'm ok at townreads, but poo poo at scumreads. So, whenever I think someone must be scum, I figure I'm wrong and use that as a weak townread. On the other hand, in a misguided attempt to improve, I decided to stick with a pair of scumreads I had without considering that I could have been wrong. Thus, Keane and PMom. Anyway, a misguided OMGUS is still an OMGUS. ##unvote
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QuoProQuid posted:you are just mad because i ate you Roy iirc also said he likes to ~think out loud~ for the benefit of the town so he just comes across as a player who wants to explain things ... which isn't scummy.
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Segur says that I must make a decision today. So I must wade into this battle of words like I stride into the middle of an arena: with no fear. Today I have the luxury of knowing that I will still be standing when the dust settles, but the future is uncertain and ever changing. Gambler, who is your trifecta for today? PMom, you seem focused on ANarc but do you have other targets? I must admit I have been aloof and unconcerned about today since winning the challenge. However, that must change because danger is all around and though I will embrace death when the time comes, I wish it to be in glorious battle!
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I have a draft on Ecco but gtg now bbl~
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OmegaGoo posted:
Your vote on Keane wasn't necessarily bad. Your defense of the vote was bad since you brought up his not giving his reasoning after he gave his reasoning. Not explaining your vote to the person you're voting for makes sense because if they are scum, you aren't letting them know how to avoid more suspicion.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:01
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Yeah, I realized that after I had time to cool off. Frustration does stupid things to my brain.
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Guys, its ecco. I feel it in my bones. I was right about Ecco last time and is posting the same way.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:03
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garthoneeye posted:Your vote on Keane wasn't necessarily bad. Your defense of the vote was bad since you brought up his not giving his reasoning after he gave his reasoning. Whoa what? You called me out for this.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:04
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garthoneeye posted:Not explaining your vote to the person you're voting for makes sense because if they are scum, you aren't letting them know how to avoid more suspicion.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:05
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TMMadman posted:PMom, you seem focused on ANarc but do you have other targets?
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A Story of the Game:EccoRaven posted:##vote capitalist pig CapitalistPig posted:OMG, YOU SCUM #vote ecco
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Jul 23, 2015 18:11
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EccoRaven posted:A Story of the Game: Tbf, you are scum IRL.
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I agree w/pmom about opop. ##vote opop I would also and have vote(d) for Good re: the keane case. I think Birdstrike is really townie. These are my thoughts. CCKeane posted:Tbf, you are scum IRL. well I mean I am an attorney...
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Jul 23, 2015 18:12
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CCKeane posted:Whoa what? You called me out for this. Right, but then you explained your vote. His defense made no mention of your subsequent explanation.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:13
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garthoneeye posted:Right, but then you explained your vote. But I thought you said I didn't have to explain my vote, because that would tip off scum as to how they are acting scummy.
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A trifecta? Well, ok, here's what I'm going to throw out there: As established, I am terrible at scumreads. So instead of "who do I think is scum", I'm going to tell you "who do I think is the least town". Same results, different thought process. PMom: posting, but giving little information, occasionally empty-quoting him(her?)self. Does that make them scum? Not necessarily, but I don't see how that actually helps town regardless. Merk: I understand this is normal for him? Whatever, I still don't like it. imgay: PMom, except even less relevant. The one content-related thing he's said is "I don't like cases on D1 because needless rhetoric tends to be townread, even though scum do it all the time." Which, while an actual good point, is still the only thing he's said. garthoneeye posted:Right, but then you explained your vote. I was asked to "explain my vote using information that occurred before I made my vote". While my explanation occurred after his explanation, his explanation occurred after my vote.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:18
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OmegaGoo posted:
Goo is correct in this interpretation.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:19
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this isn't normal for merk, and i have tons of content tyvm 
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Pinterest Mom posted:this isn't normal for merk, and i have tons of content tyvm You have two cases, one of which is the majority of your content... and it's a slapfight with opop.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:23
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sure, but my cases are on scum.
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Pinterest Mom posted:sure, but my cases are on scum. I have no problem with the cases; I have a problem with the slapfight.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:25
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how so?
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CCKeane posted:But I thought you said I didn't have to explain my vote, because that would tip off scum as to how they are acting scummy. I don't think you have to explain your vote to the person you're voting for if they press you. I think explaining votes in general supports town, but I don't care if you explain your vote if the only person asking is the target.
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Pinterest Mom posted:how so? Because during the slapfight, you said even less than you're saying to me now in more posts. How do you even do that? Again, this is not a scumread. This is a "possibly not town" read.
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OmegaGoo posted:Because during the slapfight, you said even less than you're saying to me now in more posts. How do you even do that? This is continuing the trend I highlighted before of Goo qualifying his reads and walking them back. Note his read on PMom isn't scum, but "not town"
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Jul 23, 2015 18:34
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CCKeane posted:This is continuing the trend I highlighted before of Goo qualifying his reads and walking them back. To be fair, he has said he doesn't trust his scum reads so he instead talks about people he isn't sure are town.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:36
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I don't want to dunk Goo today. His reads are self-conscious, but they don't read like scummy self-conscious.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:37
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I don't mind PMom's style. He gives reasons he thinks people are scum, then lets the targets potentially hang themselves. There's no use in continuing to pound the same case; just let your cases stand for themselves and remind people of who you think are scum.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:40
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't want to dunk Goo today. His reads are self-conscious, but they don't read like scummy self-conscious. I agree. Right now I lean towards ANarc.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:40
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garthoneeye posted:To be fair, he has said he doesn't trust his scum reads so he instead talks about people he isn't sure are town. I did say this. OmegaGoo posted:3) No matter what I do at this point, I am going to look like I am waffling on my opinions, and that's my own drat fault for not thinking things through. OmegaGoo posted:A trifecta?
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garthoneeye posted:To be fair, he has said he doesn't trust his scum reads so he instead talks about people he isn't sure are town. Regardless, it speaks of the same reason I am voting him, continued qualifications in statements and walking them back. Saying you don't trust your scum reads is also performing the same action, it is setting yourself up as merely confused and mistaken once your target flips town.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:45
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I want to stick on Pmom but I'd go for Ecco
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Jul 23, 2015 19:00
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Ecco because?
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Opopanax posted:I agree on Ecco, looks like a smokescreen to defend Pmom against me. Don't like their defending you and the points on me are super weak and strechy.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Ecco because? Because OMGUS clearly EccoRaven posted:I agree w/pmom about opop.
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Because OMGUS clearly This is the first time you comment on opop, do you think his vote on Ecco is scummy?
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Gambler, Segur admires your enthusiasm and energy but feels you lack direction. He is reminded of a kitten with a ball of yarn. PMom, Segur is not quite sure about ANarc yet but he does agree that Opopanax smells fishy. I could agree with this vote. For now, the search continues.
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Jul 23, 2015 19:30
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Because OMGUS clearly Yes. I omgused Ecco by saying they were scummy the day before they voted me. I'm a precog, it's how I'm so good at this.
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yuming posted:Ecco is also giving me ~vibes~ yuming posted:She did clarify~ yuming posted:I have a draft on Ecco but gtg now bbl~ I'm getting a scum vibe on yuming. If she was town I'd expect more of an effort to actually confirm/explain what it is about Ecco that she finds scummy; this seems more like an attempt to visibly have an opinion for the sake of not arousing suspicion.
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