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OhYeah posted:Did he actually say that somewhere? much like jazz music it's in the words he doesn't write
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:The whole "fake Arya' thing happened quite a lot throughout pre-modern times Yeah, no kidding. False heirs like (probably) Aegon were also quite common. I remember a couple examples of these shenanigans from Herodotus's Histories. The most famous is probably the story of the mad emperor Cambyses who, being mad and all, secretly had his brother Smerdis murdered. He then went on to conquer Egypt where he made a real mess of things and angered the gods (again, mad). So there Cambyses is marching his merry way back to Persia, probably singing a song about how great it is to murder your siblings when who should he meet but his brother Smerdis at the head of a huge army. Of course, it's not really his brother, it's really one of the Magji who just happens to look just like Smerdis, but no one has seen the real Smerdis in years and the likeness is good enough that even people who knew him before are fooled. Cambyses knows "Smerdis" is a fake, but he can't prove it without admitting that he murdered his own brother for no good reason. Naturally, he tries anyway and comes across as a gibbering madman and more of his followers begin drifting toward Smerdis' camp. At this point, Cambyses either kills himself, dies in an accident, or gets assassinated (lol, history) and "Smerdis" takes the throne and rules as emperor for a few months until Darius, Cambyses' spear carrier, exposes his charade and seizes the throne for himself. Of course, some modern historians suspect that there never was a false Smerdis and Darius actually killed the real Smerdis (and possibly Cambyses as well) and simply spread lies about them after the fact to justify taking the throne. Which, come to think of it, is a lot like how the Freys keep going around saying Robb turned into a wolf and attacked them and everyone pretends to believe them.
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https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sharknado-grrm-cameo-124773722640.html So this happened
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The Ninth Layer posted:I don't think most of the northern lords know about the Jeyne/Arya switch. Lady Dustin almost certainly does, but that may be it at the actual wedding. This is supported by Roose telling Ramsay to take it easy with torturing Jeyne. If everybody knew that Arya was fake, why would they care about hearing her sobbing every night and seeing fresh bruises on her the next day? Apart from it being horrible, I mean.
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Duckbag posted:Yeah, no kidding. False heirs like (probably) Aegon were also quite common. I remember a couple examples of these shenanigans from Herodotus's Histories. The most famous is probably the story of the mad emperor Cambyses who, being mad and all, secretly had his brother Smerdis murdered. He then went on to conquer Egypt where he made a real mess of things and angered the gods (again, mad). So there Cambyses is marching his merry way back to Persia, probably singing a song about how great it is to murder your siblings when who should he meet but his brother Smerdis at the head of a huge army. Of course, it's not really his brother, it's really one of the Magji who just happens to look just like Smerdis, but no one has seen the real Smerdis in years and the likeness is good enough that even people who knew him before are fooled. Cambyses knows "Smerdis" is a fake, but he can't prove it without admitting that he murdered his own brother for no good reason. Naturally, he tries anyway and comes across as a gibbering madman and more of his followers begin drifting toward Smerdis' camp. At this point, Cambyses either kills himself, dies in an accident, or gets assassinated (lol, history) and "Smerdis" takes the throne and rules as emperor for a few months until Darius, Cambyses' spear carrier, exposes his charade and seizes the throne for himself. Thank you for sharing this, because it owns. History!
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Possibly Chicken posted:https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sharknado-grrm-cameo-124773722640.html Haha, what the gently caress. We need a bigger boat.
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Jul 23, 2015 10:34
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Possibly Chicken posted:https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sharknado-grrm-cameo-124773722640.html Is he throat loving that shark?
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syscall girl posted:much like jazz music it's in the words he doesn't write  Really, this is a thing of beauty. Please guys, if there is still a bit of love left in your withered hearts even after all these years of abuse by the Absolute Fucker, give it to this post.
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Jul 23, 2015 14:29
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Capopio posted:
If we didn't just get a title change I would have loved this to be it.
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Jul 23, 2015 15:13
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The shark in that wedding has three heads. It works on so many levels.
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Jul 23, 2015 18:37
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or at very least two levels.
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I'm in SoS to the part where Dany is about to get her unsullied. She thinks about when Jorah kissed her and admits she's been getting horny lately. She has dreams but not of him "...was always younger and more comely, though his face remained a shifting shadow." loving preston jacobs has infested my brain. Someone is using the moon to send her dreams to make her horny for young men. It's clearly Euron Crow's eye, sewing the seeds for his false flag opreation where he pretends to be a mercenary captain of repute Daario Naharis. It all fits if you ignore the all the parts that require people to control the weather to make any sense.
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Jul 23, 2015 22:41
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Krinkle posted:I'm in SoS to the part where Dany is about to get her unsullied. She thinks about when Jorah kissed her and admits she's been getting horny lately. She has dreams but not of him "...was always younger and more comely, though his face remained a shifting shadow." Gods drat
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Jul 23, 2015 22:58
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Euron isn't even young though. Also Daario has two eyes. You'll need to find way more abstrusely worded passages for me to buy that one. Also I'm pretty sure that quote means Dani is going to bone a faceless man (!).
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Jul 23, 2015 23:10
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That's nonsense. Everyone knows Daario is actually Theon's penis.
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Jul 23, 2015 23:12
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Assuming that the euron = daario theory doesn't posit euron being able to teleport across great distances at will, doesn't the timeline require for the entirety of Dany's ADWD plot to occur something like a full year before the kingsmoot?
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Jul 23, 2015 23:17
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Assuming that the euron = daario theory doesn't posit euron being able to teleport across great distances at will, doesn't the timeline require for the entirety of Dany's ADWD plot to occur something like a full year before the kingsmoot? Who can keep track of the fucker's timelines. When the sun sets in the East sounds like he could have been the westeros Columbus?
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Assuming that the euron = daario theory doesn't posit euron being able to teleport across great distances at will, doesn't the timeline require for the entirety of Dany's ADWD plot to occur something like a full year before the kingsmoot? sounds like someone didn't watch all 8 parts of the iron islands series he leaves meereen for several chapters to "treat with the lamb men" or something, obviously he's euron and gerion lannister is the shrouded lord but who is the corsair king???
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Jul 24, 2015 00:13
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I just got to the corsair king. It wasn't "The Corsair King." He said "some corsair king wanted to buy a hundo eunuch warriors". Like a lot of pirates call themselves kings. I don't think it's an official title.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:26
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I included a new novel specially recommended by GURM in this month's BotM poll, just for you people. He even wrote about it on his blog! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3732757
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I included a new novel specially recommended by GURM in this month's BotM poll, just for you people. He even wrote about it on his blog! Have you thought about including one of GRRMs other series? Might I suggest Wildcards?
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Jul 26, 2015 02:35
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In storm of swords, I got up to the part where lemoncloak climbs this hill where all the wierwood stumps are and gets a GPS update on where beric is from the old dwarf woman. She wants, as payment, a song and nothing more. Why did I remember this exchange going more like she demands some wine and a smooch from the young man and he has to kiss the ancient dwarf to get his answers? That didn't happen. What am I thinking of? They don't come back to the dwarf woman do they? I read through it twice looking for the smooch but I only read when I'm falling asleep lately so I'm still not convinced I didn't miss it.
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Jul 26, 2015 07:17
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The greenseer in that book is one of the more mysterious characters we've seen. Maybe she's one of the Children of the Forest. Maybe she's Jenny of Old Stones. Who knows? She predicted Renly and Joffrey's deaths as well as the Red Wedding and Catelyn's resurrection and another vision suggests that Euron Greyjoy hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon (though that hasn't quite been confirmed). I think the only vision of hers that hasn't come true is the one about a maid " slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow." From context, we know the maid is Sansa, and the snow castle is probably Winterfell, but the giant slaying is a little more mysterious. Maybe she's going to kill an Umber? Also, I'm not sue who you're thinking of, but it's familiar.
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Someone tried to attribute the "savage giant" being Sweetrobin and the castle being Sansa's snowcastle, but that's stupid and just the Gurm's ~red herring.~
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Jul 26, 2015 10:01
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Clearly what it actually means is that in the books Shireen will die in a tragic duel to the death against Wun Wun at Castle Black during which she will land the killing blow just before getting crushed by the falling giant.
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Krinkle posted:In storm of swords, I got up to the part where lemoncloak climbs this hill where all the wierwood stumps are and gets a GPS update on where beric is from the old dwarf woman. She wants, as payment, a song and nothing more. Why did I remember this exchange going more like she demands some wine and a smooch from the young man and he has to kiss the ancient dwarf to get his answers? That didn't happen. What am I thinking of? It's her "Jenny's song", it's what she always asks him to play, She used to hang out with Jenny of Oldstones who was married to some Targaryen prince. The ghost of high heart, who is a child of the forest, came with 'her jenny' to court once and told Egg that Mad King Aerys must wed Rhaella cause the prince that was promised will be born of their line. And yeah, no smooch.
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Krinkle posted:They don't come back to the dwarf woman do they? I read through it twice looking for the smooch but I only read when I'm falling asleep lately so I'm still not convinced I didn't miss it. The way I remember it she first demands a smooch and some wine and when everybody goes "Ugh gross, lady" she shrugs and says she'll just take the song then.
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Malpais Legate posted:Someone tried to attribute the "savage giant" being Sweetrobin and the castle being Sansa's snowcastle, but that's stupid and just the Gurm's ~red herring.~ Doesn't she make a giant head and mount it on the snow castle or something?
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kcroy posted:Have you thought about including one of GRRMs other series? Might I suggest Wildcards? You might, if you were very, very cruel  Interesting note for anybody who might not know, the Dinosaur Lords author is also one of the main authors of Wild Cards. He wrote the hippy who takes drugs to awaken his various superpowered personas and the killer hunchback with the vibrating hands.
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Malpais Legate posted:Someone tried to attribute the "savage giant" being Sweetrobin and the castle being Sansa's snowcastle, but that's stupid and just the Gurm's ~red herring.~ It's pretty clearly that you drat rube.
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Malpais Legate posted:Someone tried to attribute the "savage giant" being Sweetrobin and the castle being Sansa's snowcastle, but that's stupid and just the Gurm's ~red herring.~ Another theory I've seen speculates that it's about Sansa and Littlefinger because his old family sigil is a giant, or something. Not the Umber one.
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Jul 26, 2015 13:02
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It's clearly Sansa who's the savage giant.
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Krinkle posted:In storm of swords, I got up to the part where lemoncloak climbs this hill where all the wierwood stumps are and gets a GPS update on where beric is from the old dwarf woman. She wants, as payment, a song and nothing more. Why did I remember this exchange going more like she demands some wine and a smooch from the young man and he has to kiss the ancient dwarf to get his answers? That didn't happen. What am I thinking of? "I cannot eat a silver stag, nor ride one. A skin of wine for my dreams, and for my news a kiss from the great oaf in the yellow cloak." The little woman cackled. "Aye, a sloppy kiss, a bit of tongue. It has been too long, too long. His mouth will taste of lemons, and mine of bones. I am too old." ... "My hair comes out in handfuls and no one has kissed me in a thousand years. It is hard to be so old. Well, I will have a song then. A song from Tom o' Sevens, for my news." There's a dumb but compelling theory that Lem is Richard Lonmouth, Rhaegar's squire.
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The giant is Sweetrobin's ◇doll◇. It's litterally text.
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Ague Proof posted:"I cannot eat a silver stag, nor ride one. A skin of wine for my dreams, and for my news a kiss from the great oaf in the yellow cloak." The little woman cackled. "Aye, a sloppy kiss, a bit of tongue. It has been too long, too long. His mouth will taste of lemons, and mine of bones. I am too old." Is this missing from the kindle version, did I read over it twice and miss what I was explicitly looking for twice, or do they go back and find her a second time in a later chapter? Kindle version even has the typo in Davos's chapters where he tells stannis that people are raping his windows so I don't know why they'd cut out a whole sentence about old dwarf kissing.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:17
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Kindle versions are from what I gather often times just prepared by some minimum wage worker who just copies the books into some ebook format as fast as he can, I don't think they even have people reviewing each individual book that's why they have the 'report error' feature. I even read once when I was trying to figure out why none of Roger Zelazny's books have ebook versions (his old publisher went bankrupt and the people who secured the rights want way too much money for them) that often times the ebook creator just uses text recognition software or simply finds whatever bootleg ebook version is making its way around the net and tries to fix the most glaring errors. tl;dr: the work put into the creation of ebooks is often of a very amateurish standard. And anyway yes, Sweetrobin and the doll are the savage giant, not everything seen in a prophecy is always of utmost importance, for instance, Jojen's prophecy about Bran and the Walder Freys being served a dish which he will find disgusting and they will find delicious which turns out to be the rather trivial news of Stevron Frey's death.
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Krinkle posted:Is this missing from the kindle version, did I read over it twice and miss what I was explicitly looking for twice, or do they go back and find her a second time in a later chapter? well, this is grrm so they could very well be raping his windows
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Hogge Wild posted:well, this is grrm so they could very well be raping his windows Have you seen the window dressing, that window was asking for it.
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Krinkle posted:Is this missing from the kindle version, did I read over it twice and miss what I was explicitly looking for twice, or do they go back and find her a second time in a later chapter? It's in Arya VIII. Location 9627 in my Kindle edition.
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Nate405 posted:It's in Arya VIII. Location 9627 in my Kindle edition. Mine is the four books in one combo file I don't think the location will line up the same. Goddamn I wish I knew how to use bookmarks I've had the thing for four years and I don't know how to bookmark. I'd go back eight chapters to find it but not if I lose my place. I mean yeah I flipped the page over. I see it dog eared. But when I go to "My notes and marks" it's literally every instance that SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME highlighed foreshadowing or a cool insult enough times that kindle thought it was worth showing to me. So I have 50 pages of annotated sick burns and maybe my bookmark is in there somewhere.
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