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African AIDS cum posted:This would have been cool to watch live that was cool, thanks for posting
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Get rid of all the random intermediate sprints between two huge climbs imo
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Jul 26, 2015 20:02
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I think they should forget about total time and move to a points based system. Seriously.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:53
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Withnail posted:I think they should forget about total time and move to a points based system. Seriously. yeah why would we want the winner of a race to be the fastest finisher
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Jul 26, 2015 21:02
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The ASO should ban the use of radio radios and power meters. The UCI should change its points structure to favor stage victories instead of top 20 overall finishes. Since all of this has a 0% chance of happening, let's also transplant the brains of Merckx and Hinault into every rider.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:15
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PizzaTheHutt posted:any one see that crazy bitch in a bead sheet in the middle of the road ? https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/625360083283767296/pu/vid/640x360/YvooOHYlGyBmf5wK.webm
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Jul 26, 2015 21:19
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Maybe WADA can develop a proper test for AICAR and expose skeleton frauds.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:24
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Women's race sounded kind of exciting. Holy DNF -- http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/results-2015-la-course-by-le-tour-de-france_379747
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Jul 26, 2015 21:56
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Each team gets one race radio link to whichever rider they want. Drop team sizes by 1-2, add additional team. ITTs/TTTs all under 25km. Something with time bonuses but I'm not certain what to increase desires to break away and separately win stage.
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Jul 27, 2015 00:16
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Congratulations to Sebastien Chavanel, the Lantern Rouge. Peloton has a nice piece about it and you should go read it. It was an ok Tour, I've seen worse.
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Jul 27, 2015 02:32
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It was a good tour this year, OK maybe the GC was a bit cut and dried but it got interesting down towards the end there and the racing on the individual stages was great. Hopefully this thread will go back to being actually readable now that the Tour and the annual invasion of people who just want to yell about doping is done with.
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Jul 27, 2015 04:32
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Skytrain and Froome will never be very exciting but outside of the GC race it was a good tour, and even that wasn't just Skytrain shutting everything down like in 2013. Too bad Martin crashed though  I don't know why anyone expects the grand tours to always be the best races, go watch the classics instead.
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Jul 27, 2015 04:52
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Jamsque posted:It was a good tour this year, OK maybe the GC was a bit cut and dried but it got interesting down towards the end there and the racing on the individual stages was great. "Feel free to not read any posts" - a human being
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Jul 27, 2015 05:00
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Xir posted:I hope Froome is 100% clean and goes on and wins a bunch more races. I'd like these relatively terrible sports fans to be permanently frustrated by him. A lot of examples of how not to act being shown in these stages by these fans. And others, for that matter. Some pretty terrible stuff in this thread too, really. (African Aids Cum it must be terrible to be you. gently caress, dude...) Spitting on athletes (or anyone) is pretty low behavior. What consistently baffles me about the Froome haters is that when Quintana goes cruising up a mountain the comments are "he's smiling! isn't that cute." Rather than "must be the dope". Same with ... well anyone but Froome really. I'm not even a Froome fan. Just find the double standards crazy-making. I just kept waiting and waiting for doped up Froomie to just blast up the mountain, dodging spit and urine, and catch Nairo on Alpe d'Huez. Somehow it didn't happen. Man, that unknown state of the art doping program isn't worth the money they are supposedly putting into it. On a good note, Sagan was pretty drat entertaining in this year's tour. There were some boring stages but I have watched Sagan's descent a few times and it was the highlight for me. Loved it. I was stunned by how badly Barguil takes corners, knocking riders down cliffs and such. That was really really bad and luckily looked much worse than it was. I was disgusted by Nibali attacking the yellow jersey when Froome had the stone in his brake. Not surprised, mind you, given that Nibali looks like a class-A rear end in a top hat, but still disgusted. Overall I was entertained by the Tour this year.
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Jamsque posted:Hopefully this thread will go back to being actually readable now that the Tour and the annual invasion of people who just want to yell about doping is done with. 
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best time of the year.... 342 days till we need to worry about froome winning something. idk how you can disagree with the fact this race was dull as piss. there was ZERO chance of an actual race after the first mountain stage. wth is that if not boring. same for green. individual stages might have been ok but the RACE sucked. Box Hill Strangler fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 06:44
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Jul 27, 2015 06:48
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he1ixx posted:Some pretty terrible stuff in this thread too, really. (African Aids Cum it must be terrible to be you. gently caress, dude...) Spitting on athletes (or anyone) is pretty low behavior. What consistently baffles me about the Froome haters is that when Quintana goes cruising up a mountain the comments are "he's smiling! isn't that cute." Rather than "must be the dope". Same with ... well anyone but Froome really. I'm not even a Froome fan. Just find the double standards crazy-making. I just kept waiting and waiting for doped up Froomie to just blast up the mountain, dodging spit and urine, and catch Nairo on Alpe d'Huez. Somehow it didn't happen. Man, that unknown state of the art doping program isn't worth the money they are supposedly putting into it. See you next July!
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Jul 27, 2015 08:08
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he1ixx posted:Some pretty terrible stuff in this thread too, really. (African Aids Cum it must be terrible to be you. gently caress, dude...) Spitting on athletes (or anyone) is pretty low behavior. What consistently baffles me about the Froome haters is that when Quintana goes cruising up a mountain the comments are "he's smiling! isn't that cute." Rather than "must be the dope". Same with ... well anyone but Froome really. I'm not even a Froome fan. Just find the double standards crazy-making. I just kept waiting and waiting for doped up Froomie to just blast up the mountain, dodging spit and urine, and catch Nairo on Alpe d'Huez. Somehow it didn't happen. Man, that unknown state of the art doping program isn't worth the money they are supposedly putting into it. /signed Why would you hate Froome? Or better yet, why would you hate Team Sky? They're a fresh, clean wind in cycling and when they started didn't even allow anyone in who was ever implicated with doping. They really hate doping that much. Later they did allow those sinners to repent and join Team Sky but only if they swore to stop cheating for real. Maybe they are a little jealous of the British approach to cycling, focusing on a good diet and high tech sleeping technology instead of shooting up. Anyway, agreed it's a pity Froome couldn't teach that coked up dwarf a lesson on the Huez. Granted he was ill but still disappointing he only beat 8 out of 9 of the other GC contenders.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:27
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he1ixx posted:Some pretty terrible stuff in this thread too, really. (African Aids Cum it must be terrible to be you. gently caress, dude...) Spitting on athletes (or anyone) is pretty low behavior. What consistently baffles me about the Froome haters is that when Quintana goes cruising up a mountain the comments are "he's smiling! isn't that cute." Rather than "must be the dope". Same with ... well anyone but Froome really. I'm not even a Froome fan. Just find the double standards crazy-making. I just kept waiting and waiting for doped up Froomie to just blast up the mountain, dodging spit and urine, and catch Nairo on Alpe d'Huez. Somehow it didn't happen. Man, that unknown state of the art doping program isn't worth the money they are supposedly putting into it. You just bought your first bibs three months ago. Odds are this is what, your first, maybe second year of caring about bikes? Go meditate on your catgirl for a while and come back once you've been on the hood of a car and realize that everyone is on drugs, including 50% of the people you (probably don't) ride with because they're faster than you. Quintana smiling is exactly why people don't think he's walking piece of poo poo. Is he on drugs? Probably, but he represents the sport better than a walking skeleton glued to a power meter.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:30
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People in glass houses mate.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:36
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Gibbo posted:and realize that everyone is on drugs, including 50% of the people you (probably don't) ride with because they're faster than you. GG that is such a depressing truth. Doping is just a fact of life in all sports, Team Sky just right now happen to do it better than anyone in cycling.
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Jul 27, 2015 09:35
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Can't wait till Froome reinvents himself again and comes back as a Paris-Roubaix contender.
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Jul 27, 2015 10:09
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sport is not about the winning, its about the taking part, somebody should tell that to (Hot) "Piss" Froome imo, maybe Quintana can give him smiling lessons
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Jul 27, 2015 10:39
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The winner should be decided by popular phone vote.
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Jul 27, 2015 12:29
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goatface posted:The winner should be decided by popular phone vote. Last in votes gets pushed off the mountain.
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Jul 27, 2015 13:27
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I don't think they need to change the green jersey. Sagan wins it because he does stuff that is completely ridiculous. Coming in the top 3 in bunch sprints one day then dominating a breakaway for hours over cat 1 climbs the next.
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Jul 27, 2015 14:12
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peanut- posted:I don't think they need to change the green jersey. Sagan wins it because he does stuff that is completely ridiculous. Coming in the top 3 in bunch sprints one day then dominating a breakaway for hours over cat 1 climbs the next. But that's the thing, he's effectively a climber/gc guy that sprints a bit. He tends to lose in the true sprints because he prioritises being able stay up the road rather than burst power. It's tremendously impressive, but it's not sprinting.
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peanut- posted:I don't think they need to change the green jersey. Sagan wins it because he does stuff that is completely ridiculous. Coming in the top 3 in bunch sprints one day then dominating a breakaway for hours over cat 1 climbs the next.  This was one of my favorite moments of the tour, especially when Froome was like "hey, maybe don't do that mate"
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Jul 27, 2015 14:33
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tarbrush posted:But that's the thing, he's effectively a climber/gc guy that sprints a bit. He tends to lose in the true sprints because he prioritises being able stay up the road rather than burst power. It's tremendously impressive, but it's not sprinting. The green jersey isn't really a "sprint" jersey though. Especially since stage wins are worth so many points. Go look and see where Chris Froome stands in the points classification. Virigoth posted:
I move that we start calling Sagan "Megaman". That image cracks me up.
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Jul 27, 2015 14:47
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tarbrush posted:But that's the thing, he's effectively a climber/gc guy that sprints a bit. He tends to lose in the true sprints because he prioritises being able stay up the road rather than burst power. It's tremendously impressive, but it's not sprinting. Someone who "sprints a bit" would maybe crack the top 5 sometimes in sprint finishes on the Tour. Whether or not Sagan is following normal sprint tactics or techniques, he's very frequently at the line. I don't know what else to call someone who's finished a wheel off of Andre Greipel but a sprinter.
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Jul 27, 2015 14:52
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Doped up to the Froome.
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Jul 27, 2015 14:56
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kimbo305 posted:I don't know what else to call someone who's finished a wheel off of Andre Greipel but a sprinter. Eligible for a pay cut, if it weren't for those "contracts"
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Jul 27, 2015 15:03
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Sagan is incredible, and fully deserves the points jersey. I don't think the system is so bad at it is, there's already a ton of prestige for the best pure sprinters in that they just win a bunch of stages, whereas the green jersey rewards aggressiveness and good racecraft throughout the tour.
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Jul 27, 2015 15:05
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Largepotato posted:Last in votes gets pushed off the mountain. This system has already been in place for a while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFWt_MKViKs&hd=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQM_38OOVo&hd=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1eRPyuuy3M&hd=1
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Jul 27, 2015 15:36
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I am prepared to concede that the problem may not be with the points, but rather that Sagan is too good.
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Jul 27, 2015 17:15
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This was the year they had supposedly changed the points jersey specifically to stop Sagan walking away with it. Then he goes and finishes in the top 3 on most of the super sprint stages anyway.
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Jul 27, 2015 17:24
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Sprinters get the stage wins, why do they need a jersey as well? What is left for all around impressive guys who aren't specialized climbers or sprinters?
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Jul 27, 2015 17:48
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The green jersey rules are fine, in fact they were fine before the latest round of meddling but the ASO just can't help themselves. The competition they need to fix is the polka-dots, they have been loving with it for years now and they finally broke it. The points are weighted way too heavily towards HC climbs and mountain-top finishes, I know in the past it was a bit more of a 'king of the breakaways' jersey but I'm in favour of a return to that if it means the people fighting for it aren't the same people fighting for yellow.
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I was thinking it should be lowest cumulative time up the climbs or points are awarded to the quickest ascent. That way climbers might launch attacks out of the peleton even if a big break has gone up the road
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