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KDE 5 is basically Windows 10 except more consistent and better thought out e: lol not KDE 4, KDE 4 is a trainwreck
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i tried to write a thing to put a facebook calender in my gnome calender but i needed to spin up a vm to install just the right set of dev tools and testing it was a giant mystery and blindly 'make install'ing a slightly modified version to see if it was working in the vm seemed to have no effect and the tests shipped with the facebook integration api didn't pass by default and gently caress it all osx is nice
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Jul 27, 2015 12:51
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lol at compiling things from source that you use gentoo too?
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Jul 27, 2015 13:27
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typically if i write software in c i need to compile it, yes
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Jul 27, 2015 13:55
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why are you writing c code to interact with web apis, rather than using some language that is good at stuff like strings
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Jul 27, 2015 19:01
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you should consider node.js for your modern day-to-day programming needs. there is no need for an old dead grandpa language.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:07
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Maximum Leader posted:you should consider node.js for your modern day-to-day programming needs this is a good idea if you wholeheartedly subscribe to the unix principle of "worse is better"
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Jul 27, 2015 20:09
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there is an unsettling amount of sysadmin poo poo in npm. not sure i like the implications of that
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Jul 27, 2015 20:12
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Soricidus posted:this is a good idea if you wholeheartedly subscribe to the unix principle of "worse is better" i respectfully request that you desist from besmirching the unix philosophy
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Jul 27, 2015 20:14
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Mr Dog posted:KDE 5 is basically Windows 10 except more consistent and better thought out im not a comptuer professional and i dont understand kde. i did the apt-get install of it and its fuked up. the desktop is in a littlwe window. theres 3 dots next to the start button that i dont know what they do. also pressing the windows button isnt bound to pop up the windows menu clone nor can you bind it to do that natively and haveto make a script or something for it, which i copy pasted from ubuntu forums or something. overall, its really strange
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Jul 27, 2015 22:46
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Soricidus posted:why are you writing c code to interact with web apis, rather than using some language that is good at stuff like strings all of the stuff in gnome to do with the service integrations appears to be in c
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Jul 27, 2015 23:04
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Smythe posted:im not a comptuer professional and i dont understand kde. i did the apt-get install of it and its fuked up. the desktop is in a littlwe window. theres 3 dots next to the start button that i dont know what they do. also pressing the windows button isnt bound to pop up the windows menu clone nor can you bind it to do that natively and haveto make a script or something for it, which i copy pasted from ubuntu forums or something. overall, its really strange when i used kde i was able to put the windows key opening the windows clone start menu
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Jul 27, 2015 23:18
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KDE 5 UX is terrible but it still seems better than Windows 10 lol
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Jul 27, 2015 23:20
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dont use kde
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Jul 27, 2015 23:20
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Mr Dog posted:KDE 5 UX is terrible but it still seems better than Windows 10 lol damning with faint praise
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Jul 27, 2015 23:49
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my stepdads beer posted:all of the stuff in gnome to do with the service integrations appears to be in c huh, I'd have expected there to be other language bindings or something not that I actually know anything about gnome 3 because the only place I use gnome is at work and we're still stuck on rhel5 lol
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Jul 28, 2015 00:57
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you can do c or javascript or python
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Jul 28, 2015 01:20
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Smythe posted:im not a comptuer professional and i dont understand kde. i did the apt-get install of it and its fuked up. the desktop is in a littlwe window. theres 3 dots next to the start button that i dont know what they do. also pressing the windows button isnt bound to pop up the windows menu clone nor can you bind it to do that natively and haveto make a script or something for it, which i copy pasted from ubuntu forums or something. overall, its really strange It comes out of the box like garbage, alt+f2 is the default key for the launcher I put fedora22+kde5 on a thinkpad and all of the function keys work correctly, it's not bad
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Jul 28, 2015 01:25
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Roargasm posted:It comes out of the box like garbage, alt+f2 is the default key for the launcher my man havce you considered that its the WINDOWS START MENU KNOCKOFF and the WINDOWS KEY ISNT BOUND TO OPEN IT BY DEFAULT? What is the thinking here? It is so savagely retarded!!!
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Jul 28, 2015 01:50
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Super is supposed to do stuff that affects the entire desktop, Alt is for accessing menus
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Jul 28, 2015 01:56
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is there going to be an argument that the windows key shouldnt open the windows menu? what reality am i living in?
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Jul 28, 2015 01:57
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Roargasm posted:It comes out of the box like garbage yep thats kde
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Jul 28, 2015 02:03
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Suspicious Dish posted:yep thats kde gnome isn't even recognizable as garbage it's space turds left behind by a being of pure light
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Jul 28, 2015 02:37
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Smythe posted:my man havce you considered that its the WINDOWS START MENU KNOCKOFF and the WINDOWS KEY ISNT BOUND TO OPEN IT BY DEFAULT? What is the thinking here? It is so savagely retarded!!! alt f1 opens the menu i don't know why
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Jul 28, 2015 02:38
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Smythe posted:It is so savagely retarded!!! well kde users are retards so you see
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Jul 28, 2015 02:41
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GTK and gnome are poo poo. They never would have existed if trolltech would have just dual licensed QT to appease stallman or w/e.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:29
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Your Desktop Environment is a piece of poo poo.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:30
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Your Desktop Environment is a piece of poo poo. I'll say
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Jul 28, 2015 03:39
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:alt f1 opens the menu because a bunch of assholes who write that poo poo own model m keyboards without super buttons
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Jul 28, 2015 03:50
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it's not a windows key, it's a a super key, mom.
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Jul 28, 2015 04:38
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Suspicious Dish posted:you can do c or javascript or python yeah but i was trying to extend the existing facebook integration which only did contacts (i think?? i forgot) to add events
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Jul 28, 2015 05:01
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Wild EEPROM posted:it's not a windows key, it's a a super key, mom. my keyboard doesn't have either. it does however have separate alt and meta keys, and boy howdy is it a pain getting them to send the correct keysyms 
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Jul 28, 2015 09:21
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Soricidus posted:my keyboard doesn't have either. it does however have separate alt and meta keys, and boy howdy is it a pain getting them to send the correct keysyms ctrl-alt-meta-super- 
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Jul 28, 2015 16:47
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Here's a thought. Why don't we just make computers easy to use for normal humans by removing the super and alt keys? Tap ctrl to open the menu or something. All this discussion makes me glad I just use vi and don't have to hit any special keys except esc.
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Jul 28, 2015 18:15
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The world grew a little more sadder when the super keys and the menu key were released to the general public.
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Jul 28, 2015 18:17
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celeron 300a posted:Here's a thought. computers will never be easy to use for normal humans until you can just talk to them normally and they understand you and do what you want all that so-called "user-friendly" interfaces do is get in the way of people who understand computers, while leaving people who don't understand computers just as confused as they always were
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Jul 28, 2015 18:54
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Soricidus posted:computers will never be easy to use for normal humans until you can just talk to them normally and they understand you and do what you want  oh that's good baby, now tell me again how if programmers learned how to properly optimize we'd all still be using pentium iiis
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Jul 28, 2015 19:06
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Soricidus posted:computers will never be easy to use for normal humans until you can just talk to them normally and they understand you and do what you want they should make them easy like tv
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Jul 28, 2015 19:09
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carry on then posted:
it's true though. the only people who get a boner for simplified/streamlined interfaces are ux nerds. ordinary people just want things to stay the same as what they learned, or preferably not to have to learn them in the first place. the worst thing you can do to an ordinary person is upgrade their software to a new "easier to use" version where things aren't in the same plaec any more. also idk about p3's, maybe if you kept modern gpus so there would be something that could handle hd video decoding. certainly true that the habit of doing everything in js or python or whatever instead of writing in a compiled language like a grown-up has led to software getting exponentially slower without offering anything like exponential gains in usability or features.
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Soricidus posted:
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