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MrWillsauce posted:I'm trying to think of what kind of disaster could transform the oceans into giant deserts of salt. I don't actually think that's what's being portrayed in the movie, but I thought it was a neat idea. The complete destruction of the atmosphere and a runaway greenhouse effect like on venus, or somehow you open up a 322 million cubic mile hole in the crust and then cover it up so no water can escape. Anything that could get rid of the oceans would also make it impossible to live on the planet.
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The nuclear war awoke Godzilla who mid-rampage pulled out the big cork plugging up the bottom of the Pacific. You notice there's no mole-people in any of the Mad Max movies, either, that's why, they all drowned.
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Jul 29, 2015 15:02
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I don't think they're implying the oceans disappeared, just that they receded greatly. It's basically a nuclear ice age. Even during an ice age, Australia doesn't really change much from how it is nowadays (an apocalyptic hellhole  ).
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Jul 29, 2015 15:15
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It'd be weird if something dried up the huge amount of water in the Pacific Ocean but somehow didn't dry up the muddy swamp the war rig gets stuck in.
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Jul 29, 2015 16:52
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Sunning posted:One thing I've notice in repeated viewings is the use of transfusions as an exchange. Much of the imagery in Fury Road is about the physical and mental bonds that tie people together as well as human life being a commodity. There are many times when a physical link is formed between two people or two objects. Most of the time, it's used to chain and dehumanize people. Immortan Joe drains milk from pregnant woman through a pump system. Nux uses an IV and chain to make Max into his blood bag. Nux's chain gets snagged in the War Rig and prevents him from killing Furiosa for Joe. Yeah, the film does a two-sided thing with it. It show sit as a bond between people but also shows other people exploiting that bond for profit.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:04
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Hobo Clown posted:It'd be weird if something dried up the huge amount of water in the Pacific Ocean but somehow didn't dry up the muddy swamp the war rig gets stuck in. Eh, there could be an aquifer or spring in the place of the crows, but since the water contaminated with radioactive material, it's useless. Also the ocean didn't "dry up" so much as stay accumulated and frozen in the northern hemisphere.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:10
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The whole "160 days of salt" line isn't meant to be taken literally. It's Max's way of hammering home the point that they have no idea what to expect on any exodus across the salt flats, but that it's likely not good. Meanwhile they know the Citadel is there for the taking. "Hope", that they will find something better by running, is as he says, a mistake. So yeah, I don't think it's correct to assume that the oceans are totally gone, just receded.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:10
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Can we just put this in the OP instead of talking about it twice per page?
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LogisticEarth posted:The whole "160 days of salt" line isn't meant to be taken literally. It's Max's way of hammering home the point that they have no idea what to expect on any exodus across the salt flats, but that it's likely not good. Meanwhile they know the Citadel is there for the taking. "Hope", that they will find something better by running, is as he says, a mistake. "We could maybe ride for about 160 days" Furiosas line.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:26
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it's in the OP now. whether or not anyone will acknowledge it is another thing.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:26
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Snak posted:Can we just put this in the OP instead of talking about it twice per page? Not until everyone agrees with me that the oceans are gone because someone took the plug out of the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and it all went down the drain. 
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Thanks, for what it's worth. I know I suggested it, but thinking about it, I kind of doubt people read the op on a 200+ page thread. Also, I didn't realize that the Mad Max game came out the same day as the Fury Road bluray. Neat.
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I know I'm late as gently caress, but I just saw this movie on Monday and holy gently caress it was good. I kinda want to see the other Mad Max movies now but a part of me is worried they can't possibly live up to the over the top awesome insanity of this movie. SuperMechagodzilla posted:I do not actually exist. I bullshit, therefore I am
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Jul 29, 2015 20:17
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Gammatron 64 posted:I kinda want to see the other Mad Max movies now but a part of me is worried they can't possibly live up to the over the top awesome insanity of this movie. Speaking of full of poo poo.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I kinda want to see the other Mad Max movies now but a part of me is worried they can't possibly live up to the over the top awesome insanity of this movie. Free your mind from the fear of disappointment.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:20
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I ordered the Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome on DVD off Amazon because they were cheap in a two pack and I already saw the first one years ago (I was disappointed that it wasn't the insane post-apocalyptic stuff you generally associate with Mad Max - it turns out that was the next two movies.) Right now I want some more insane biker gangs wearing leather with spikes welded onto their cars.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:25
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Gammatron 64 posted:I know I'm late as gently caress, but I just saw this movie on Monday and holy gently caress it was good. I kinda want to see the other Mad Max movies now but a part of me is worried they can't possibly live up to the over the top awesome insanity of this movie. They really don't live up to this one. I just watched The Road Warrior again this weekend, and it's undeniably badass, but it's not  like Fury Road is. It's worth watching all three of them once though, if only to see all the stunts and scenes that they did callbacks to in Fury Road.
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Network Pesci posted:I just watched The Road Warrior again this weekend, and it's undeniably badass, but it's not 
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Network Pesci posted:They really don't live up to this one. I just watched The Road Warrior again this weekend, and it's undeniably badass, but it's not It's worth remembering that the old trilogy is 30-40 years old at this point, and much lower budget. They have varying elements of fantasy layered in too. Fury Road is a much more focused story with some bombastic characters and amazing visuals. It's all about one giant car chase. Really this is one series that does benefit from watching chronologically. Mad Max is an indie flick that spends a lot of time on the slow social collapse, and sets up Max's downfall. At the end you're waiting to see where he's going next. Then it's like: Road Warrior: I Live Beyond Thunderdome: I Die Fury Road: I Live Again.
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Jul 29, 2015 21:29
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Road Warrior remains one of the greatest films ever made. This is like being afraid to go back to watch Eraserhead because Mulholland Drive was so drat good.
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Going into The Road Warrior expecting it to be the non-stop pounding action of Fury Road is a really great way to ruin a fantastic movie. It has shared virtues with Fury Road, but it's not just more Fury Road, often to its benefit.
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So really, I should have watched the Road Warrior first, in other words.
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Gammatron 64 posted:So really, I should have watched the Road Warrior first, in other words. Now's a good a time as any to realize that a film is more than just its immediate stimuli.
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You should watch them in any order because there is virtually no continuity between any of them and they are all excellent films on their own merits. You did yourself a huge favor by kopping the DVDs. Enjoy, my friend!
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Gammatron 64 posted:So really, I should have watched the Road Warrior first, in other words. eh... The Road Warrior is the same type of story as Fury Road, but it's not the same sub-genre. By today's standards, The Road Warrior is a drama. It delivers a similar amount of dramatic visual storytelling as Fury Road, but it does not have the same frantic, pedal-to-the-metal pace. It doesn't mean it's "less good", but you have to go into it knowing that it's not the same meta-genre.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:05
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Movies aren't an arms race. and Road Warrior is still the best
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They're all good but all very different from each other, so as long as you don't expect the balls out intensity of Fury Road they're all still big fun.
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Cakefool posted:"We could maybe ride for about 160 days" Furiosas line. Just because she is able to estimate how long they're able to drive based on their supplies doesn't mean that she knows what is out there to drive to.
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Snak posted:eh... The Road Warrior is the same type of story as Fury Road, but it's not the same sub-genre. By today's standards, The Road Warrior is a drama. It delivers a similar amount of dramatic visual storytelling as Fury Road, but it does not have the same frantic, pedal-to-the-metal pace. It doesn't mean it's "less good", but you have to go into it knowing that it's not the same meta-genre. It's the same genre. It was made in 1980.
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SirSamVimes posted:Just because she is able to estimate how long they're able to drive based on their supplies doesn't mean that she knows what is out there to drive to. Not to mention that if you drive 40 mph for 8 hours a day, you'll completely circumnavigate the entire planet in 80 days.
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Goreld posted:Not to mention that if you drive 40 mph for 8 hours a day, you'll completely circumnavigate the entire planet in 80 days. That's assuming they drive for 8 hours a day, instead of stopping regularly for rests, eating, and maintenance.
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chitoryu12 posted:That's assuming they drive for 8 hours a day, instead of stopping regularly for rests, eating, and maintenance.
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I wonder if, when people would tell stories like for example http://www.indians.org/welker/coyoduck.htm , some bugger would chime up and point out that there's no way a female duck could carry a basket big enough to hold a bunch of coyote children as well as a bunch of duck children and at any rate a bat couldn't catch a duck.
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Ugh, my coworker went on a rant today about how MMFR "really wasn't a good film," because "the story was weak and it was all style over substance" and how the "many female characters can't make up for zero worldbuilding" I didn't say anything in response because we're not really friends but it made me mad. There's a difference between subtle worldbuilding where you might have to make an inference or two versus NO worldbuilding at all. Plus there were too drat many clever moments of characterization to even count. The movie was rich with detail, it's not the director's fault you're too dumb to notice it!
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FourLeaf posted:Ugh, my coworker went on a rant today about how MMFR "really wasn't a good film," because "the story was weak and it was all style over substance" Tell that sucka that style is substance.
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Cakefool posted:"We could maybe ride for about 160 days" Furiosas line. For comparison, the trip from wherever the Broken Hills refinery to Honestly, Max could have just refused to leave the desert in the last three movies. That whole area is pretty huge and the lack of steady fuel, exposure and the threat of ambushes and bandits reduces your range inside it, that desert isn't impassable. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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FourLeaf posted:Ugh, my coworker went on a rant today about how MMFR "really wasn't a good film," because "the story was weak and it was all style over substance" and how the "many female characters can't make up for zero worldbuilding"   Coworkers with terrible, terrible movie tastes are the worst. The "best" part is that they all consider me the one with horrible taste because I hosted a couple of Bad Movie Nights (Troll 2, Plan 9, etc) and because I don't fawn over every superhero movie. MY tastes are objectively superior you peons 
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's the same genre. It was made in 1980. They are both post-apocalyptic action movies. So yes, they share that genre. But action movies today and action movies 30 years ago are very different, the "action" genre has evolved. That's all I was alluding to. You can't compare them like you'd compare John Wick and Fury Road.
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Cakefool posted:"We could maybe ride for about 160 days" Furiosas line. I don't see the problem with this line. They're riding into a desert that looks even less hospitable than the one they're leaving, with no map, and no specific destination in mind. Presumably, the 160 days allows for quite a lot of doubling back, and general wandering.
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Snak posted:They are both post-apocalyptic action movies. So yes, they share that genre. But action movies today and action movies 30 years ago are very different, the "action" genre has evolved. That's all I was alluding to. You can't compare them like you'd compare John Wick and Fury Road. It's changed somewhat, but Fury Road has not utterly redefined what a film or even what a car chase film is. You can directly compare them. I am alluding to the fact that the idea that a movie made pre MTV is hard to appreciate is silly.
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