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Asiina posted:Okay fine. We should coordinate what my action and CPig's action is going to be; we don't know if it's just three Bosses. I knew there were Bosses, plural, other than myself, but not who they are.
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Asiina posted:Hmm, maybe not. Finding bosses is cool, but the killer wouldn't want to kill his bosses I don't think. I was looking throughout, didn't see any.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:43
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Also, Kumba got back to me. The Killer would not be forced to suicide if only his name is submitted.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:44
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Ask if the killer can withhold the kill.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:46
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Zetsubou-san posted:congrats byers, you jost got me interested! If all other Bosses die, what do you get?
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It's not a lie clearly there are bosses of differing alignments, it wouldnt surprise me if the killer and the other boss are actually scum, you are 3p and I'm town. I submitted you for the kill last night because I already discovered you were a boss, who did you submit? beccause if it wasn;t who died I may be right and you know it. ##vote zets lets test it.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:47
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Asiina posted:Ask if the killer can withhold the kill. Kumba won't reveal more than that we can't force a suicide, as it would apparently reveal too much about his power. I asked i, in the event he didn't suicide, he would just not kill or would he be free to kill anyone and was told I wasn't allowed to know the full Killer mechanics.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:48
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Zetsubou-san posted:I'm the (burger) King Boss, sent from higher up the pay-grade to keep a sharp eye out for bosses and their lackeys sent from other corporations that are itching for a hostile takeover. They want me to do it by using your methods against you, so I have to do the whole submit a list of names (only picks up bosses, though), send another name to a deaddrop by the buffet, you already know this story. "I'm a boss but I'm the real boss kill the rest of the bosses but leave me alive" At least Byers was honest enough to admit that town has no reason to consider him more safe than any other boss without adding some bullshit to it. ##vote Zetsubou-san
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CapitalistPig posted:It's not a lie I submitted PMom, I mentioned that before. I'm submitting from the bottom of the post list up, and skipped the new guy N1.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:48
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Byers2142 posted:I submitted PMom, I mentioned that before. I'm submitting from the bottom of the post list up, and skipped the new guy N1. I think I'm right then
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Jul 30, 2015 01:50
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##unvote I think we should have a discussion about night targets before this vote gets too far. Bosses please list your bosseccocops.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:51
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Asiina, you wanted to look at Exakt because you specifcally thought he was a Boss, right? I'll check him, and it leaves you free to look for other people, perhaps the Killer. CPig, if I look at Exakt, who do you want to look at? Also, who else did you look at? I assume you cleared two people N0 like me, which is how you were able to focus on just me N1?
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Jul 30, 2015 01:51
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Byers2142 posted:If all other Bosses die, what do you get? I get a new role.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:52
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Byers2142 posted:Asiina, you wanted to look at Exakt because you specifcally thought he was a Boss, right? I'll check him, and it leaves you free to look for other people, perhaps the Killer. CPig, if I look at Exakt, who do you want to look at? Also, who else did you look at? I assume you cleared two people N0 like me, which is how you were able to focus on just me N1? 
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Zetsubou-san posted:I get a new role. Yes, and that role is? I get Survivor, CPig's claimed VT, and you get...?
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I submitted byers and asiina n0 Got a positive Submitted byers for the kill last night because i figured caviar would be the boss. I submitted asiina and jedit last night and got a negative.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:53
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CapitalistPig posted:I submitted byers and asiina n0 There we go, Asiina and jedit cleared as bosses. Zets, who'd you submit both nights?
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Jul 30, 2015 01:53
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Byers2142 posted:Yes, and that role is? I get Survivor, CPig's claimed VT, and you get...? Vanilla scum, it makes perfect sense.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:54
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##vote Zetsubou-san claiming boss stuff and lurking. I think he the best dude to see what sticks with this boss poo poo.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:56
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Hmm, I may investigate Pig because the recipient gets town/not town then we can know if we can trust him. I could just choose randomly from someone who isn't a boss and can still be the killer. I'm not sure.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:58
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Byers2142 posted:Yes, and that role is? I get Survivor, CPig's claimed VT, and you get...? I get a none-of-your-business. Bosses and the killer aren't the only threats to town. I submitted your name to the killer last night.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:59
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CapitalistPig posted:Vanilla scum, it makes perfect sense. If that's true, we're missing a night kill. Ok, on the off chance that the set up is more complicated than I thought, let's say that it's a scum boss, a 3P boss, and a town boss. Zet's flip will tell us if that's true, and if it's true as long as CPig and I are both alive we can control the Killer. That locks him down, and leaves the scum team. So if Zet's flips 3P, we know that CPig likely lied and we're all 3P like I thought. If he flips scum, I get treated as a claimed Survivor who can help lock down the Killer. It's all on Zet's flip.
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Also if any of the boss want to include me in their investigations tonight, please do. I would like to be a confirmed townie. 
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Jul 30, 2015 02:01
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Asiina posted:Hmm, I may investigate Pig because the recipient gets town/not town then we can know if we can trust him. That's not a bad move, but honestly you don't need to coordinate, you just need to know what CPig and I are doing and plan around it. If you announce and I'm wrong and there's a scum team and a missing N1 kill, they can scheme around your power. Also if scum flips on Zets, look at jedit as either the target or the scum making the nightkill.
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SirSamVimes posted:Also if any of the boss want to include me in their investigations tonight, please do. I would like to be a confirmed townie. Doesn't work like that. We'd just know you're not a boss. I'm submitting Exakt and one of my known not-bosses.
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Jul 30, 2015 02:02
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Byers2142 posted:That's not a bad move, but honestly you don't need to coordinate, you just need to know what CPig and I are doing and plan around it. If you announce and I'm wrong and there's a scum team and a missing N1 kill, they can scheme around your power. Also if scum flips on Zets, look at jedit as either the target or the scum making the nightkill. Yeah, I also didn't consider that Zet's flip will tell a lot of things about whether CPig is telliing the truth, so it won't be worth it to use one of my likely limited investigations on him. As long as I know CPig's target I can choose from remaining unknowns.
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SirSamVimes posted:Also if any of the boss want to include me in their investigations tonight, please do. I would like to be a confirmed townie. This rubs me the wrong way, if Zets flips scum. Feels like an attempt at being a fake confirmed town.
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Jul 30, 2015 02:04
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CPig, pick a target so that we can get on with lynching Zets.
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I guess I didn't think about the possibility of there being scum aside from bosses.
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who do you want me to investigate? whos left?
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Byers2142 posted:I wondered that; it's why I was trying to get him to claim an action for voting me. But why wouldn't he stick with the softclaim? That talked me out of it. I didn't have a result. I wanted to see how you'd react because I thought you were scum for a good chunk of day 1. As it turns out, I was right!
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If zet flips 3p as well it really doesnt mean anything , I know what my role PM says.
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I guess ill investigate Opop and one i already know isnt a boss
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Are you also a boss PM?
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CapitalistPig posted:I guess ill investigate Opop and one i already know isnt a boss Sounds good. So tomorrow, we'll know if there's a scum team or not, we'll know if Exakt and Opop are bosses, and Asiina's results will be shared with someone even if scum take her out. I think that's the best outcome we could have hoped for, all things considered.
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Byers2142 posted:N0, I checked Ernie and Hal. N1, I checked Ernie and bowmore. None of them are bosses. CapitalistPig posted:I submitted byers and asiina n0 Asiina, Ernie, Hal and Bowmore have been checked and are not bosses. Pig, Zets and Byers have all either been investigated as or have claimed boss roles. Of living players, that leaves: SirSamVimes Exact Science imgay Pinterest Mom Opoponax Robviously As unknowns.
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SirSamVimes posted:Also if any of the boss want to include me in their investigations tonight, please do. I would like to be a confirmed townie. Even without a scum team, you could be the Killer.
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assuming this all isn't a very elaborate lie by a scumteam of Pig/Zets/Byers
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SirSamVimes posted:assuming this all isn't a very elaborate lie by a scumteam of Pig/Zets/Byers Which would be revealed when Zets flips.
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