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Zephyrine posted:But giving each set of boilers their own pipeline is Relative to the 1000 x 1000 tile behemoth factories out there 
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Zephyrine posted:Are explosive cannon shells any good. I like them. They sometimes killed newly spawned biters before they engage me. But then i automated making them without bothering to ever make any of the normal rounds, so I can't compare. Then I killed a bunch of bases. Then I got my tank run over by a train (but I lived) and haven't made a replacement. Zephyrine posted:Has anyone else had trouble with this when using blueprints? I experimented with them for boilers, and it seems that they sometimes prioritize filling whatever is next to them rather than filling themselves. The second string I put down completely ran out of energy before any of them self refueled.
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Zephyrine posted:But giving each set of boilers their own pipeline is Its not that bad you just need to rearrange the space your already taken up, remove some of the extra pumps, and then add bunch more pipe to grounds.
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Jul 31, 2015 21:18
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 Lots of space, but it looks good
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Jul 31, 2015 21:35
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I always go for a power setup like this: http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8854 or this: 
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Jul 31, 2015 21:39
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I feel kinda dumb because I just realized that you can pull coal out of boilers to feed other boilers.
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Jul 31, 2015 21:41
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Okay I rebuilt it it works now. The only odd thing is that a straight pipe of water from an offshore pump to the steam engines will provide max water to all. But if I add a powered small pump (pointed the right way) then all water after the pump goes down to 0,2-1.7
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Jul 31, 2015 22:42
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I realize fluids exist to add a different logistics dynamic to the game, but there's so much more hidden information than there is with belts and such. I can look at a belt and see if it's filled to capacity, and see where there are slowdowns, see where things are being starved, etc. Fluids don't really have that same kind of visibility, you just keep throwing pumps and pumpjacks at the problems until they hopefully go away.
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Jul 31, 2015 22:51
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Zephyrine posted:Okay I rebuilt it Small pumps only pump ... 30 water per second, I believe? It's less than a plain pipe supports, anyway. "Plain" pipes update in a cellular automata sort of way, with flow being based on the "% full" difference between adjacent pipes/tanks/boilers/steam engines/whatever. When there is a high differential between pipe segments, water flows faster. This is why longer stretches of pipe slow down.
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Jul 31, 2015 22:59
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Shintaro posted:Small pumps only pump ... 30 water per second, I believe? It's less than a plain pipe supports, anyway. I had no idea. Good information. Thanks.
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Jul 31, 2015 23:11
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I've never used the inline pipes. Does running them serially or in parallel improve their throughput?
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Jul 31, 2015 23:40
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Zephyrine posted:But giving each set of boilers their own pipeline is I don't see the problem 
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Jul 31, 2015 23:44
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Fuel from one boiler to another. Oh wow what space I could save on that
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Jul 31, 2015 23:47
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God. I try to be low pollution but that many steam boilers is just so gooooood.
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Krysmphoenix posted:God. I try to be low pollution but that many steam boilers is just so gooooood. Why would you try to be low pollution? Just clean out the nests every so often as your pollution expands and no worries! Besides, the goal of this game is to subjugate the planet and eradicate it's inhabitants. After all, why not? It's funny, I am at least environmentally conscious. I recycle, I try to preserve electricity, I drive an efficient car. Yet somehow this game is total catharsis for me. Oh, you were using this planet for your little natural idyll? Well gently caress you, I'm paving the entire thing under a dense cloud of toxic fog. Oh, you don't like it? Well then I'll just exterminate you.
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Overwined posted:Why would you try to be low pollution? Just clean out the nests every so often as your pollution expands and no worries! Besides, the goal of this game is to subjugate the planet and eradicate it's inhabitants. After all, why not? mostly I just hate dealing with random biter attack waves, and I wasn't very good at taking out their bases. Of course now that I've seen how deadly bringing your own gun turret is my opinion has changed completely.
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A personal roboport, a bunch of laser turrets and long distance poles, along with a recipie of the power pole surrounded by 8 turrets, is also an effective weapon against biter bases. I haven't made a single capsule in my current game, just turret creeping.
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Why can't I just fit my robots with grenades so that I can direct them to launch carpet bombing attacks against my enemies? Also serious comment being able to build terminator style robots that you can give attack orders to RTS style would be pretty cool as a lategame resource sink.
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Drone_Fragger posted:Why can't I just fit my robots with grenades so that I can direct them to launch carpet bombing attacks against my enemies? I mentioned earlier that it would be fantastic to have something like this, it's bizarre that the whole theme of the game is automation and you can automate everything else except the destruction of your enemies.
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ToxicFrog posted:I mentioned earlier that it would be fantastic to have something like this, it's bizarre that the whole theme of the game is automation and you can automate everything else except the destruction of your enemies. The two things I would love to have in this game would be long range artillery, and some clockwork men a la Rise of Legends: 
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Foehammer posted:The two things I would love to have in this game would be long range artillery, and some clockwork men a la Rise of Legends: Bah, you're not thinking large enough. The next step should be that we build ourselves an ACU...
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TA/SupComm-style artillery in Factorio would be beautiful.  And you'd have to keep it fed with a steady supply of energy and projectiles, thus prompting further factory construction and strip-mining of the world. I wonder how hard it would be to mod in LRPCs...
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ToxicFrog posted:TA/SupComm-style artillery in Factorio would be beautiful. There is a mod for that, I have not gotten to the point where I can build them, but SupremeWarfare give you lots of artillery options.
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Krysmphoenix posted:God. I try to be low pollution but that many steam boilers is just so gooooood. Have to keep that pollution down. 
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Zephyrine posted:Have to keep that pollution down. Huh, those biter bases appear to have, uh, grown.
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So, I, uh, did a thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FImuW53eF7E
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Dirk the Average posted:Huh, those biter bases appear to have, uh, grown. They do absorb pollution and turn it into growth, you know.
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Hagop posted:There is a mod for that, I have not gotten to the point where I can build them, but SupremeWarfare give you lots of artillery options. Oh hell yes. An MRPC, an LRPC, and a Buzzsaw? 
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So is there any pressure on R.R Martin to write faster now that the show has caught up with the books? The momentum of the show is enormous but it's going to lose a lot of it if there's a 3 year gap between seasons.
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Zephyrine posted:So is there any pressure on R.R Martin to write faster now that the show has caught up with the books? The momentum of the show is enormous but it's going to lose a lot of it if there's a 3 year gap between seasons. I dunno, is he using a bus setup for his factory?
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If he's run out of material, he might need to set up more mines.
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fiiiine wrong thread. Lets go back to wishing for artillery and nuclear weapons in Factorio. What materials would a nuclear warhead be made out of? Could factorio benefit from a system where research centres could be set to develop rare materials by spending sciene packs on producing rare physical materials that could then be used in production like Uranium or rare minerals for higher tier weapons. Perhaps the output could be random with a probability modifier and you'd have to sort out the valuable stuff from the junk.
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Shintaro posted:Small pumps only pump ... 30 water per second, I believe? It's less than a plain pipe supports, anyway. This is correct. There's a way to make long pipes, but... well: http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6066 You need a set of 5 small pumps to "re-pressurize" every 4 blocks to keep it near the max flow. Not exactly compact.
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This game looks interesting but experience has taught me to immediately become suspicious of any game that remains in "alpha" for more than two years. And it doesn't look like it's on Steam either, which means I can't get a refund if I don't like it. When is the final release? I'm assuming that there will also be a "beta" after this "alpha" so is it safe to say late 2016 or even 2017?
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Alpha, beta, release: These are all arbitrary development points idiosyncratically chosen by the developers. A quick peruse through the last 3-5 pages of this thread will tell you exactly how playable this game is.
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The game is exceptionally playable, replayable, fun and interesting. It's missing a little combat balance and a meaningful endgame, but still has a huge amount of good times in it, especially if you can get a bro to join you.
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enraged_camel posted:This game looks interesting but experience has taught me to immediately become suspicious of any game that remains in "alpha" for more than two years. And it doesn't look like it's on Steam either, which means I can't get a refund if I don't like it. It has a free demo. It's limited of course, but it gives you the basic mechanic of belts and arms and factories.
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Somewhere in the next few minor versions they're putting the game on Steam.
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Aurium posted:It has a free demo. It's limited of course, but it gives you the basic mechanic of belts and arms and factories. The free demo is analogous to the dealer swinging his trenchcoat open, with small baggies of tar heroin tied off at regular intervals all over the inner lining.
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enraged_camel posted:This game looks interesting but experience has taught me to immediately become suspicious of any game that remains in "alpha" for more than two years. And it doesn't look like it's on Steam either, which means I can't get a refund if I don't like it. You kinda sound like a whiny oval office if you're worried about getting a refund on a 16 dollar game and can't be hosed to read the content of the thread wherein people discuss the ample content. Go buy another AAA game if you care that much.
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