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THC posted:Stephen Harper is going to win a majority Lowtax thanks you for your  colonel_korn posted:Am I crazy to think that a CPC minority might actually be preferable to an NDP minority? Like an NDP minority will almost certainly get repeatedly undermined by the CPC and Liberals to show that they just can't be trusted to govern, while a CPC minority might actually force the Liberals and NDP to work together and maybe even form a working coalition. (Yes, I know it didn't happen last time, but I think there'd be a lot more pressure on them this time to actually make it work). colonel_korn posted:Am I crazy to think that a CPC minority might actually be preferable to an NDP minority? Like an NDP minority will almost certainly get repeatedly undermined by the CPC and Liberals to show that they just can't be trusted to govern, while a CPC minority might actually force the Liberals and NDP to work together and maybe even form a working coalition. (Yes, I know it didn't happen last time, but I think there'd be a lot more pressure on them this time to actually make it work). I really wish there can be a coalition somehow this time, but Trudeau and Mulcair seem opposed to it on a cellular level. I hope they can prove me wrong.
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Conservative minority with a brutal NDP opposition that never shuts up and is constantly on the attack during the housing crash and recession and more and more criminal investigations into the conservatives that utterly destroys them as a party and sees "conservatism" split into some useless new parties of fiscal conservatives and whack job religious nuts leading to a sweeping NDP majority next election at which point they all decode the secret messages in the NDP's rather centrist platform that actually spells out their plan to implement full communism after a brief but needed period of proletariet dictatorship which will of course be phased back out into democratic control once the population is sufficiently educated and for it.
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Actually I'd predict that the LPC would turn around and agree to a coalition in the event of a CPC minority -- polls posted earlier show that they'd be in pretty big trouble with their base if they didn't.
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The Conservatives ran the government like a majority government for a long time, even after Iggy put the Harper "on notice." Given the Liberal support for C-51, I don't think a Conservative minority would be preferable to a NDP minority.
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THC posted:Stephen Harper is going to win a majority Quoting this for the record.
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If Harper wins another majority, or even minority, I am going to cry.  Don't know if that's worth a toxx.
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I'm at the Pride Parade right now and  JT spotted  The liberals are crowding all of us out 
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Heavy neutrino posted:Actually I'd predict that the LPC would turn around and agree to a coalition in the event of a CPC minority -- polls posted earlier show that they'd be in pretty big trouble with their base if they didn't. A coalition with which party, though? Might there be enough blue Liberals to turn a CPC minority into a CPC/Lib coalition, or maybe we would see Liberal floor-crossers? I mean, that would probably spell the end for Liberal support in many camps, but still...I worry. Oh god it's going to be the worst 11 weeks.
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Baronjutter posted:Conservative minority with a brutal NDP opposition that never shuts up and is constantly on the attack during the housing crash and recession and more and more criminal investigations into the conservatives that utterly destroys them as a party and sees "conservatism" split into some useless new parties of fiscal conservatives and whack job religious nuts leading to a sweeping NDP majority next election at which point they all decode the secret messages in the NDP's rather centrist platform that actually spells out their plan to implement full communism after a brief but needed period of proletariet dictatorship which will of course be phased back out into democratic control once the population is sufficiently educated and for it. I didn't make it through all of this  Leofish posted:Harper has started rounding up his enemies! Need picks of Tom "The Bear
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Hey goon from scotland here who's been through the scottish independence referendum and the 2015 uk election, just popping up to say don't trust polls ever not once not ever. Also, I know only the most basic things about your politics but good luck to your angry beard guy I hope he wins.
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Angepain posted:Hey goon from scotland here who's been through the scottish independence referendum and the 2015 uk election, just popping up to say don't trust polls ever not once not ever. Thanks, sorry about your election but at least the SNP seem good.
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Angepain posted:Hey goon from scotland here who's been through the scottish independence referendum and the 2015 uk election, just popping up to say don't trust polls ever not once not ever. Thank you. I hope the angry beard guy wins too. (It would be too soul crushing if he didn't. )Good luck to you out there as well. I heard about the UK Conservatives attempting to ban all kinds of digital encryption, and it sounds absolutely ghastly. At least the SNP seems to have their heart in the right place.
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JoelJoel posted:
He's so noble he's even going to invite the wildlings back south of the wall. 
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Heavy neutrino posted:Actually I'd predict that the LPC would turn around and agree to a coalition in the event of a CPC minority -- polls posted earlier show that they'd be in pretty big trouble with their base if they didn't. I don't think Bay Street would support a coalition between New Democrats and Liberals.
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JoelJoel posted:
BREAKING: Mulcair to name Niflheim as 11th province if elected.
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JoelJoel posted:
edit: #wethenorth
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BGrifter posted:I don't think Bay Street would support a coalition between New Democrats and Liberals. Let bay street run red with the blood of the financial class 
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I can't believe it's possible for the words "waste of taxpayer dollars" to leave her mouth but I was wrong. She cut enough from doctors' fees just this year to pay for two elections though. Luckily, we don't have expensive elections to worry about so we were able to throw that money into the pan am games. Wynne blasts Harper for early election call quote:“If the rumours are true, it would be unusual, it would be unnecessary and it would be a waste of taxpayer dollars,” Wynne said. That pic I put up, I like the Wynne-Trudeau branding strategy given that her approval rating has dropped to 29%. I don't care about the ORPP except that the LOL BRB TTYL FU ads drive me crazy. Our little business will hopefully be able to skirt it by starting our own little pension so it should only affect the proletariat.
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THC posted:New rule: coalition talk is bannable Please please please please this
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"WE AREN'T IN A RECESSION, STATSCAN AND ECONOMISTS ARE LIARS BECAUSE MY LITTLE BUMFUCK TOWN IN ALBERTA HASN'T BEEN AFFECTED YET" -An actual caller on Cross Country Checkup
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BGrifter posted:I don't think Bay Street would support a coalition between New Democrats and Liberals. I don't know much about the inner workings of the LPC but could Trudeau really survive saying no to the 69 percent of his membership that supports a coalition with Mulcair as the PM? It's not just a niche issue that you can bury and ignore; it's the question that will be on everyone's lips if the CPC win a minority. Come to think of it, could a slice of LPC MPs rebel and engender a coalition government without his approval? I've forgotten just about everything of that one 202 Canadian political system elective I took in college.
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Has anyone else heard the rumour that Trudeau had to stop some of his minions from kicking out his chief strategist Gerald Butts and replacing him with the party pollster?
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Helsing posted:Has anyone else heard the rumour that Trudeau had to stop some of his minions from kicking out his chief strategist Gerald Butts and replacing him with the party pollster? What would the context behind that be? Is it just intra-party politics? Or is there some undue desperation going on?
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In the event of a conservative minority the liberals will form a don't-call-it-a-coalition with them and support every government budget, military action and confidence motion just like they did from 2006-2011. More than ever, Canada needs strength and stability. In the event of an NDP minority, the Liberals will work with the official opposition to undermine it at every turn. Canada can't afford untested, risky schemes.
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Morroque posted:What would the context behind that be? Is it just intra-party politics? Or is there some undue desperation going on? Butts would have to be turfed because of their slide in the polls. It would be seen as a shake up renewal to put them back on track. Might get a couple columns written about them.
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Helsing posted:Has anyone else heard the rumour that Trudeau had to stop some of his minions from kicking out his chief strategist Gerald Butts and replacing him with the party pollster? Kinsella had a couple of posts: http://warrenkinsella.com/2015/07/about-that-lpc-rumour/ http://warrenkinsella.com/2015/08/the-cottage-coup/ (Strategist is Butts, campaign manager is Telford, pollster is Herle) Pinterest Mom has issued a correction as of 22:34 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:I don't know much about the inner workings of the LPC but could Trudeau really survive saying no to the 69 percent of his membership that supports a coalition with Mulcair as the PM? You might be mistaking the Liberal Party for one that gives a poo poo what the rank and file thinks. That imaginary party will be campaigning on a guaranteed minimum income any day now. Putting the LPC on life support with a part in a coalition government is worse than a CPC minority anyway.
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The game is afoot. Also, after 9 years of Tory rule the economy is in such a precarious position that we'll turn into Greece if you elect someone else. 
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El Scotch posted:The game is afoot. look at greece everything was FINE THERE for the last 4000 years. they invented democracy for gods sake. then they elected leftists and now they are in the news all the time because their prime minister doesnt wear a tie and the europeans hate him
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Helsing posted:Has anyone else heard the rumour that Trudeau had to stop some of his minions from kicking out his chief strategist Gerald Butts and replacing him with the party pollster? I choose to believe this is true just because of the potential headlines
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I hadn't heard anything like but I am not sure who I dislike more. Gbuttz or national party director and dude who has his head so far up his own rear end he speaks from his stomach.
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NDP led coalition with Libs in Defence, Foreign Affairs and Public Safety would probably be the best case scenario for this country. But prepare for all the butthurt student union activists aghast at the NDP (for you see, a student union having a concrete stance on Palestine has lots to do with student representation)
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Melian Dialogue posted:NDP led coalition with Libs in Defence, Foreign Affairs and Public Safety would probably be the best case scenario for this country. But prepare for all the butthurt student union activists aghast at the NDP (for you see, a student union having a concrete stance on Palestine has lots to do with student representation) Strawmanning the reaction to a thing that will never happen. Never change, you sad little troll.
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angerbeet posted:
The big announcement was... that they will make more announcements next month. lol 
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Leofish posted:Harper has started rounding up his enemies! They really should have stopped after Son of the Mask
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colonel_korn posted:The big announcement was... that they will make more announcements next month. lol What a load of horseshit.
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