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The smallest cassette format, and a look back at working in a pre-word processor office. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FqjQlFBDM
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WebDog posted:Someone did get their Mac Plus up and running with today's internet. So in fact they did jack poo poo. Nice!
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Benly posted:Well, that's not so much a problem of "voice recognition isn't good" as "nobody's making good voice recognition for your market". In the 90s, the company my father was working for was one of the leading companies in the natural-language voice recognition field, and they were working on a Dutch product, but they got bought by Lernout & Hauspie which turned out to be a nightmare tangle of financial frauds and I don't know what's happened to the product since then. Yes, for one language group it works halfway decently. For the rest of the world it is barely functional, because it can't understand their language. Even when the rest of the world spoke Murraycan to the speech recognition device, they won't be able to do most things, because the speech recognition doesn't understand the street name or contact name. It's a nice technology, so long as you live in an English speaking region. Otherwise it is a nice hype, but far from functional. The way Google/Samsung, MS, and Apple market it over here, it is a failed technology, as it can't do non-trivial things.
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spog posted:And yet it takes just as long - if not longer - to boot up to a usable state. My Windows 3.11 machine (66mhz 4gb of RAM) was lightning fast to boot. It took only marginally more time to boot than my SSD drive laptop now. But yeah, like others have already said, apparently you haven't experienced the joys of solid state hard drives. Rebooting is so much quicker now. I still don't apply upgrades when I need to, because gently caress having to wait two minutes. But if I did, it'd be really quick.
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Krispy Kareem posted:My Windows 3.11 machine (66mhz 4gb of RAM) 4 gigs of RAM? Really?
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My dad's work PC had OS/2 Warp 4 and 80 megs of memory and that was like more than anyone had on their home computers.
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Pingiivi posted:4 gigs of RAM? Really? No way it'd boot that fast, the POST memory check must have taken ages to complete.
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Pingiivi posted:4 gigs of RAM? Really? poo poo...megs. I knew looking at those specs seemed odd. Was it 4gb or 2gb, why doesn't either option look right? Jerry Cotton posted:My dad's work PC had OS/2 Warp 4 and 80 megs of memory and that was like more than anyone had on their home computers. We tried OS/2 Warp on that same machine and it choked completely. I think the recommended requirements were 8mb. So yeah, my 4mb technically ran it - but glacier-like slow.
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One thing that's not obsolete but deffo failed: Videophones. The tech to make it possible has been around for a long while, since the thirties, and when you read old tech mags and such, you'll notice that someone has constantly been trying to get it going without success. Turns out that people don't really want to use that sort of service apart from some fairly specific circumstances.
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Gaming of the future as seen from 1979. Pretty broad, but generally accurate with the concepts.
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Kemper Boyd posted:One thing that's not obsolete but deffo failed: Videophones. It's also pretty popular with deaf people since using sign language over a video call is much faster than texting back and forth. But yeah, definitely not as ubiquitous as the Jetsons predicted. 
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Aug 3, 2015 10:38
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People talk to their televisions.
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I remember when I heard about Skype for the first time and I thought "that poo poo ain't gonna fly". Lucky I am not in charge of investing poo poo for other people.
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WebDog posted:Gaming of the future as seen from 1979. Why can't we have a long distance board game like the one that is depicted there. Not one with a screen. Sure it be impractical now, and be obsolete, but we never had one in the evolution to where we are now in gaming technology. But if there were some in today's world, and they still worked, I wouldn't mind trying to pick a couple up. Though wouldn't be a radio transmitter, those have a finite range, stick a modem on it and dial a person up, now we're talking!
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Humphreys posted:I remember when I heard about Skype for the first time and I thought "that poo poo ain't gonna fly". I was the same but unfortunately I was in the position to invest and I didn't, I foolishly decided to stay in University.
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Well in the days of yore there was stuff like Modem Chess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN9rQobPWsU Digital boards do exist for Chess games - and they're fairly recent. They are used as a way to transmit moves to an online scoreboard for tournaments or for blitz games where it's too fast to keep up with the game. They can also be used to input moves into a chess program on a computer. You could theoretically play an opponent using the on screen game as reference. Sadly the $800 - $1000+ board doesn't move pieces for you. But boards do exist where magnets are used to move pieces around - to amusing results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJADuhQAUQ0 So in theory it could be done.
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WebDog posted:Gaming of the future as seen from 1979. Oh. I have that book, and I remember that last panel about "hyper realistic graphics" and whatnot. Playing even non-AAA titles always brings me back to that quote. The other day, my wife asked me where I took a particular photo - it was a screenshot from The Forest. Even though that passage reads like a generic adverisement, it's pretty much bang on. That first panel though, it seems like they drastically underestimated the increase in computing power. "In 10 years, computers will be a hundred times faster". If that books from 1979, by 1989 they were probably tens of thousands of times faster. The rest of the book is pretty good for a kid's introduction to computers as well.
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People have always and still do underestimate Moore's Law.
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Collateral Damage posted:It looks like bad stopmotion. How do they do the move where the horsey jumps over the prawns?
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Around 2:52 it moves the right hand knight out. It moves the pawn slightly out of the way first.
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WebDog posted:Gaming of the future as seen from 1979. Does anyone know of a site or blog or what have you that collects old predictions like these? I've seen a few and they're pretty entertaining, usually due to getting almost everything right with a few adorable exceptions.
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There used to be a good retrofuturism blog but it disappeared.. but just google for retrofuturism and you can find a bunch of other sources.
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Collateral Damage posted:People have always and still do underestimate Moore's Law. Tell me about it. I have some old scraps of paper in my stuff from high school, where a few friends were making up crap about what computers they'll have in what turned out to be circa 2003 or so, roughly. This was in the mid 90's, and it has stuff like "500mhz pentium 7 with 256mb RAM, 5 Gb hard drives (etc)". Maaaaaaaasively underestimated reality. I am totally scanning and posting these if I come across them in a clean up.
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Oh yeah who mentioned videophones? Also mentioned is EditDroid - the very first digital editing system.  The concept was to create a digital non destructive print of the film which allowed for faster cutting as you'd simply match up the numbers on the film negative at the end. It was the basis of AVID systems and all non linear editing systems today. It's main problem was that it was very ahead of it's time and the capabilities of the technology of the 1980's. It was very very costly to use as you had to transfer film to videotape then to laserdisc in order to be able to seek across fast enough (3 -5 seconds). This wasn't cheap at the time as Laserdisc's costs never really came down as it's down adoption rate never caught on. The other major slowdown was each laserdisc contained around 30 minutes of footage so multiple discs were fed into several readers. This meant that if you were editing with one clip on disc 2 and the other on disc 5 there was a painful wait for the discs to spool and buffer. Hard disc storage was pretty non existent in 1985. The other slowdown to it's adoption was that it was rarely used by it's creators with the small exception of some work on the Young Indy series just before being sold off. AVID brought out Droid Works in 1993 and by 1995 most of the industry had begun to edit with Avid systems, spurred on by Walter Murch winning an Oscar for cutting The English Patient on it.
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Kemper Boyd posted:One thing that's not obsolete but deffo failed: Videophones. Depends on your generation. My 14 year old communicates almost exclusively through Snapchat, texting, and Facetime. So in that case, 2 of the 3 are visual. She talked on an actual telephone with a boy for the first time last week.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Depends on your generation. My 14 year old communicates almost exclusively through Snapchat, texting, and Facetime. So in that case, 2 of the 3 are visual. She talked on an actual telephone with a boy for the first time last week. Yeah, the kids (aged 9 & 10 give or take) at the school I work at always talked about calling each other on Facetime. I think for kids around that age, having the visual element actually gets rid of some of the awkwardness of a phone call because it gives you something to do (reading facial expressions, just looking at the person in general) when waiting for a verbal response if there's a slight delay.
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HMS Boromir posted:Does anyone know of a site or blog or what have you that collects old predictions like these? I've seen a few and they're pretty entertaining, usually due to getting almost everything right with a few adorable exceptions. http://paleofuture.com/
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HMS Boromir posted:Does anyone know of a site or blog or what have you that collects old predictions like these? I've seen a few and they're pretty entertaining, usually due to getting almost everything right with a few adorable exceptions. This is probably my favourite because it's about my job.  I never got my purple helmet or Seaworld-branded leather jacket, though.
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Gromit posted:This is probably my favourite because it's about my job. Do we get purple helmets if we just do corporate security stuff? Because drat it, I want my purple helmet. But not the jacket. I have enough questionable jackets according to my fiancé.
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flosofl posted:Do we get purple helmets if we just do corporate security stuff? Because drat it, I want my purple helmet. Is that corpsec/Renraku dude packing a gyrojet pistol? This vintage Shadowrun campaign is looking pretty cool.
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flosofl posted:Do we get purple helmets if we just do corporate security stuff? Because drat it, I want my purple helmet. We can change out the Black Hat / Red Team labels for Purple Helmets. It's what the Blue Team think we are like 90% of the time anyway.
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flosofl posted:Do we get purple helmets if we just do corporate security stuff? Because drat it, I want my purple helmet. 
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My wife has bet me that I can't use a non-smartphone for two weeks. I'm therefore looking at getting a flip phone on EBay; what's the best one you guys can recommend? I'm literally looking for the very best in obsolete technology. (If there's anything that runs Palm OS or can do laptop tethering, that's a bonus)
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Pham Nuwen posted:My wife has bet me that I can't use a non-smartphone for two weeks. I'm therefore looking at getting a flip phone on EBay; what's the best one you guys can recommend? I'm literally looking for the very best in obsolete technology. Mad props if you make it 2 weeks on John's Phone.
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slomomofo posted:Mad props if you make it 2 weeks on John's Phone. Now I want to see a shuffle phone that dials numbers at random.
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slomomofo posted:Mad props if you make it 2 weeks on John's Phone. That's actually pretty cool
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Gromit posted:This is probably my favourite because it's about my job. So your job is to stop the re-animated body of Jeffrey Dahmer from stealing hard drives? Neat!
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monolithburger posted:So your job is to stop the re-animated body of Jeffrey Dahmer from stealing hard drives? Neat! That would probably beat his current job. Gromit is a minor forum celebrity because his job requires he scrutinize child pornography.
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drrockso20 posted:That's actually pretty cool It seems way, way overpriced though. $110 for a phone that literally just makes calls and comes with a literal notepad and pen? It's inferior in functionality to something with more features while costing up to twice as much. The only thing I can see being at all useful is having good signal with it.
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