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kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
First thing I saw checking into the freep livethread on the debates

quote:

To: Crystal Palace East
Trump has never drank alcohol, coffee or used tobacco. If he ever imbibed ANY alcohol it was when he took communion.


2,251 posted on 8/6/2015, 7:45:59 PM by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

kik2dagroin posted:

First thing I saw checking into the freep livethread on the debates

hahaha Wut

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
Somebody got Trump and Romney mixed up.

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
What they fail to mention is Trump's crippling marijuana addiction.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

kik2dagroin posted:

First thing I saw checking into the freep livethread on the debates

Trump is a Presbyterian (ugh, I hate knowing he's one of us). We drink non-alcoholic communion wine or grape juice.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

change my name posted:

I love this ridiculous idea that rich people have to have great morals because hey, they're already rich! Why would they need more money?

Holy poo poo, Trump is Duke Phillips.

quote:

I'm a self made billionaire and the only person who can bri be me is a bazillionaire.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Watching them retcon Donald loving Trump of all people as a pious Christian teetotaler and a paragon of godly thrice-married virtue is making my day, I didn't think freep could get any more hilarious

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Fox Hit Job on Trump

The blood gates are opening! :getin:

quote:

To: Mariner

I was wondering why commie soetoro told useful idiots to watch the repub debate, now I know why. Soetoro was tipped off that foxholes were going hard to take out Trump and hard question a few of the others. Plain as day.

3 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:42:59 PM by biggredd1
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quote:

To: conservative98
"So maybe it won’t hurt him"

The solidarity of sympathy.

It was an AMBUSH.
8 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:45:10 PM by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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quote:

To: Mariner

Agreed. Fox didn’t handle the debates well. They were not fair and balanced. Most sites folks are disappointed by fox. They just wanted to ask “gotcha” questions.

10 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:45:52 PM by Lopeover (My vote is valuable, you must earn it.)
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quote:

To: Mariner

I never liked Megyn Kelly. I always thought she was overrated. But tonight was a disgrace. She is taking a beating on twitter and her facebook page. Well deserved.

14 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:47:21 PM by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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quote:

To: Mariner

That was not a debate ...

Debates are when everyone gets to answer the same question and attempt to persuade the audience of their position.

This was a gotcha attempt by the pseudo biased Faux News ... I do believe I may join liberals in calling it that from now on.

16 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:48:06 PM by LibsRJerks
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quote:

To: Mariner

I’ve truly enjoyed Trump’s candidacy, but those were all legitimate questions, and Trump couldn’t answer them.

It wasn’t a hit job, just revealing. Trump has been great about bringing issues into the public discourse, but he has few answers and carries a lot of baggage.

Campaigns and debates show weak spots, and that’s what happened tonight.

17 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:48:08 PM by Jedidah
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quote:

To: Mariner

The media tried to destroy Trump in the debate

And the media will keep trying to destroy Trump

Why don't people see that every reporter ,every journalist , every media person IS a marxist political activist posing as a journalist. The media will try to destroy any politician that is a threat to socialism.

Socialism/marxism is their religion

19 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:48:15 PM by Democrat_media (Obama will use Obamatrade to import hundreds of millions of 3rd world people into the U.S.)
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quote:

To: Mariner

The FOX “News” Moderators should be ASHAMED
of themselves. After keeping Cruz and Trump
from the news for months, their attacks continued,
and continued, and continued.

Disgusting, thou art Chris Wallace.

20 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:49:02 PM by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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quote:

To: Mariner

Megyn Kelly’s job was to try and take out Trump any way she can. She’s a liberal witch. She let Bush off the hook and never followed up when he lied about working for Bloomberg’s abortion Foundation. She never asked Bush why he believed in abortion in cases of rape and incest. That is “Catholic” Bush’s official position, but Kelly let him slide.

23 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:50:08 PM by NKP_Vet
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quote:

To: NKP_Vet

every reporter is a liberal

maybe now everyone will see that

33 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:51:55 PM by Democrat_media (Obama will use Obamatrade to import hundreds of millions of 3rd world people into the U.S.)
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:tinfoil:

quote:

To: Mariner

Trump was created by the NY Post; ironically, now they have marching orders from (naturalized immigrant) Murdoch to destroy his political career.

Buchanan part II.

42 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:54:32 PM by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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quote:

To: Mariner

Didn’t surprise me.

FoxNews has been the mouthpiece for the GOP-establishment for several years now, and dutifully does its bidding. All pro-open borders, pro-beltway cronyism, and pro-faggotry. You get on the opposite side of any of those issues, and they’ll do their best to kneecap you.

44 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:55:21 PM by greene66
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quote:

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Every attack has made him stronger. Waiting on polls. Predict +5 to +7 My family thinks he tanked. I bet them 1k he did not.

55 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:03:14 PM by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools)
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quote:

To: Mariner

Agree, it was a hatchet job from the outset. Kelly hates men who don’t bow to her.

Nobody can own Trump. That is their problem. He doesn’t need them. He is becoming more confident and less of a braggart though he still needs to work on that.

As for promise not to run third party... he is playing the establishment as well he should. If he makes the promise not to run third party he loses all of his leverage. They’ll treat him like crap. He is outsmarting them.. It is the art of the deal. I hope he just keeps doing what he is doing.

Dad always said to always tell the truth but to never tell everything you know.

62 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:10:24 PM by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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quote:

To: BigEdLB

I walked away from the debate after the first question. It was a personal attack and the bitch did it on purpose of course. She hates any man who is not impressed by her looks or her brilliance or whom she can’t control. Trump is all of these and she hates him. She is the most biased “journalist” on the idiot box.

Hannity knew it was not right and he acted like it. He dare not cross the queen bee though.

I watched the after action reviews with Hannity and thought they were informative and that he did a good job.

66 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:13:47 PM by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Scary!

quote:

To: Diogenesis

I am still reeling at how unprofessional Fox was.....

This was scary!
Seriously Stephen King scary!
I fear for Trump.....they are blatant in their hatred of him
God help us

67 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:13:55 PM by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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*votes straight-ticket Republican in 2016*

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To: Mike Darancette

>>>It was over when Trump raised his hand.

And I actually AGREED with him there. I WILL NOT support some of the candidates on that stage. Trump was just nice and didn't say who...but I will. I will not vote GOP if its Bush or Christie. Everyone else I can vote with HAPPILY or hold my nose. Those two....never.

So I don't know what people were booing about....'cause I wouldn't pledge to support everyone on that stage either.

83 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:26:39 PM by NELSON111
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quote:

To: Mariner

1. Opened with hit #1, who will not pledge to support the nominee? They KNEW only Trump.

Triump the Insult Candidate manned up and confessed he wouldn't make such a pledge.

Then the little Hobbit, Bret Baier, tried to change it to pledging not to run as a third party candidate.

Triump shut that turd down by saying he wasn't refusing to pledge he wouldn't run as a third party candidate, he just wouldn't pledge to support the nominee not knowing who the nominee would be.

I'm with him on that. I owe Krispy Kreme and Li'l Jebbie no allegiance. I will have no problem leaving that circle blank should one of them be the nominee.

And don't bother trying to guilt trip me by saying a non-vote is a vote for Hitlery.

Krisply Kreme and Li'l Jebbie might as well be Hitlery.

92 posted on 8/6/2015, 10:34:44 PM by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS
They are even turning on Fox now! Trumps bid for the nomination is truly the greatest thing :allears:

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Fox has been to liberal for them for a while though hasn't it? I bet they still watch it though.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

This is doubly amazing because at least two of the candidates at the GOP debate last night expressed how gametes are human life with constitutional rights The root of my hair follicles contains DNA, does it get to vote?

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
So each and every single one of my spermatozoïds is a human life? Man that's millions of votes right there in my balls! (and your mom's throat :boom:)

Is this the new approach they are taking to render women's votes insignificant or are they just really loving dumb and have no clue what they are talking about.

I can sorta get considering human life starts at fecundation, but before that?

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
They were still relying on, "life begins at conception" and phrases like, "pro-life!' but if you say that a fertilized egg has human rights and access to specific amendments to the Constitution then anything that has human DNA isn't far behind. Probably some DNA in my turds, like you said, so I guess I'm a mass murderer and a bigot. I clapped a few times last night because some of the candidates took out some of the dog whistles and inner-circle rhetoric out into public, it was everything I had hoped for and more.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
I don't really agree with you point since a fertilised egg has a brand new genome and thus is a new individual while the DNA in your poop is just a part of you that fell off.

While I am pro-choice, I do get the idea behind "life starts at conception". Life starts at "gametogenesis" however is just as dumb as "life starts at pooping", I agree.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Fathis Munk posted:

I don't really agree with you point since a fertilised egg has a brand new genome and thus is a new individual while the DNA in your poop is just a part of you that fell off.

How many votes do chimaeric individuals get, and is it a double murder if you kill one?

Removing a tumor: murder, yes?

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
The tumor genome is p much just the same as yours plus minus a couple of mutations while the genome of a conceptus created by sexual reproduction differs much more from the genome of the parents (well except if you're into twincest I guess :v:)

Chimerism leads to the development of a single organism so one vote I guess.

As I said before, I don't think people saying this are right, it's just that I can understand where they are coming from and it's not quite as dumb as turd-as-an-individual.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

But defining personhood as "a different genome" runs into all sorts of problems, like the ad hoc changes to the definition you're already doing. Now mutations don't count they're not different enough, now you have to be "one organism" so chimaeras don't count okay what about conjoined twins, seems like one organism I guess killing one of them is cool? But no, you'll say, that's two people because there are two minds. Which is actually the rule of thumb everyone uses except when preventing women from killing a clump of undifferentiated cells is useful for enforcing bronze-age sexual morality.

(I know you don't agree with them, but since you're playing devil's advocate I'm just saying why I think the pro-life side's definitions are dumb and bad and wrong)

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
I've amended the definition mostly because I've not defined it properly to start with. In our multicellular bodies, there are a lot of slightly differing genomes because DNA replication is not perfect, DNA polymerases make mistakes and point mutations appear. However the genome remains similar enough to yours that the differences are mostly negligible and that your own body recognises these cells as "self".

A conceptus inheriting half his genome from each parent is not recognised as self by either of the parents. You can't just equate that with "a couple of mutations here and there". It is a much more fundamental departure from the source material.

Now I agree that twins seem to pose a problem with regards to this definition, but they will just form 2 distinct conceptuses that while identical, both differ significantly from the source material, thus being new individuals according to this definition. They are kind of an exception to the rule though yes.

Then again all this doesn't matter since it is indeed a consciousness devoid cell clump at this state and for quite some time and imo should not be given priority over the already developed and thinking parents.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
(Being a biologist I like talking about this kind of poo poo way too much so I'll try and make myself stop here :ohdear:)

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
So cloning someone would be ethical since the clone is not a person.

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!
Twins will just have to share one personhood.

Jonked
Feb 15, 2005
Welcome to jurisprudence, where the definitions are made up and the women folk don't matter

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Fathis Munk posted:

(Being a biologist I like talking about this kind of poo poo way too much so I'll try and make myself stop here :ohdear:)

I was interested :)

But I am a huge nerd so maybe don't rely on my opinion of good dinner conversation

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Cloning and stuff like asexual reproduction breaks the definition but since that's doesn't concern human (yet), I've not taken it into account here.

But yes, :agreed:, cloning presents a huge issue with regards to this argument (as well as many other societal and ethical considerations anyways) .

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
Chimerism is really interesting but it produces once consciousness. That plays right into the point about how it's not our DNA that makes us a human being with human rights, it is consciousness. Same reason why conjoined twins are have one body but it's two individual people, each who gets to vote. If there's ever a Supreme Court case about abortion rights for conjoined twins I want front row seats.

Post 9-11 User fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 7, 2015

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club
:goonsay: About pro-life beliefs is almost as insufferable as freepers.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Plus pro life beliefs can be summed up as "Pop out kid, IDGAF about making that kid's life better and I want to exercise to right to execute him in court of law."

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Deuce posted:

:goonsay: About pro-life beliefs is almost as insufferable as freepers.

Sorry you don't like thinking about science :viggo:

Have this as a palate cleanser I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlEz_PLFBIg

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Fathis Munk posted:

Fox has been to liberal for them for a while though hasn't it? I bet they still watch it though.
I believe they've called it the Obama-loving station before

LongSack
Jan 17, 2003

Fathis Munk posted:

Sorry you don't like thinking about science :viggo:

Have this as a palate cleanser I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlEz_PLFBIg

pro click

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Fathis Munk posted:

Cloning and stuff like asexual reproduction breaks the definition but since that's doesn't concern human (yet), I've not taken it into account here.

But yes, :agreed:, cloning presents a huge issue with regards to this argument (as well as many other societal and ethical considerations anyways) .

How many votes do people with transplants get?

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Uncle Jam posted:

How many votes do people with transplants get?

Well, the donor is the majority holder of their genome's vote, so you'd have to kill them first.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
The South African white supremacist bootcamps which are training thousands of youths to fight blacks

quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

when will this begin in the US ?

2 posted on 8/5/2015, 11:38:53 PM by LeoWindhorse
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quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

Considering white farmers in SA are starting to go the way of those in Zimbabwe, this seems like a sane approach to self defense.

4 posted on 8/5/2015, 11:44:44 PM by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

they are fighting racist socialists that give their enemies flaming tire necklaces. the anc is incredibly’socialist and racist in their own right. whites are raped and murdered down there and the crimes arent solved. its why they developed side flamethrowers for cars down there. fed by the auto gas lines.

7 posted on 8/5/2015, 11:48:17 PM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

The US is different, or so we would like to believe. And a different story may play out here, by the grace of God. One thing that CAN’T continue if we want peace is this rabid Jeremiah Wrong “God drat America” thing that claims that any gimme demand that “black America” can possibly come up with is ipso facto righteous on its face. If they want blessing, cursing is the last thing in the world they need to be doing.

11 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:24:19 AM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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But wait, aren't the AWB straight-up Neo-Nazis?

quote:

To: LibWhacker

These aren’t civil defense lessons.
There are StormFront Nazis.

There is no defense for their goals.

10 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:04:47 AM by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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Eh, any port in a Storm(front).

quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

Good for them. At least they stand up for themselves.

26 posted on 8/6/2015, 3:05:09 AM by Altura Ct.
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quote:

To: BlueNgold; LibWhacker

They are looking to a Nazi-like ideology for salvation. Not-good; it will chew them up and spit them out ruined. Because it is a puppet show run from Satan’s hell.

14 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:26:09 AM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They are UNWISE in what they think is a deliverance from the scourge.

They didn’t MOVE from South Africa.. their judgement is SUSPECT.. no matter the race..
Only whites left are remnants of the ones that caused this abortion..
All the smart or decent people left already..

The commies OWN the place.. to think not is a delusion..

17 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:30:35 AM by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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quote:

To: BlueNgold

Yeah, the commie Blacks did a nice job in S.A. They got what they wanted.

Murder, rape, dilapidation and povertyIt's a disaster for all people.

18 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:34:51 AM by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: Company Man

amount of assaults
number of rapes
number of murders
And like here in the U.S. it is not being done by Dutch youth.
after awhile these sort of things get your attention.

21 posted on 8/6/2015, 12:38:23 AM by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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quote:

To: Mr. Blond

The Fortune 500 company I worked for inundated us with “diversity” propaganda. The logo was six humanoid, sexless colored figures spinning around a point where their hands were joined. (I say hands, they have no discernible features, hands or feet. Each comes to a useless point. But, anyway, they spin about their joined “points.”)One figure is yellow, one dark purple, one light purple, one green, one black and one red. There was nothing that could be mistaken for a Caucasian. I suspect the yellow is Asian, the black is obvious, the red is Indian. As for green, dark purple and light purple, they must represent some desirable area of diversity we don’t know about yet. The diversity campaign made most of us want to vomit, but I assure you they were dead serious about it. They hired instructors. One of them was a certified communist from Central America.

25 posted on 8/6/2015, 2:53:25 AM by Gen.Blather
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quote:

To: Gen.Blather

One of them was a certified communist from Central America.

People like that need to have "accidents".

44 posted on 8/6/2015, 7:03:23 AM by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

It's just a guess, but maybe some of them are getting tired of watching their friends and neighbors people getting shot or hacked to death and having their farms and property stolen by lazy, violent, racist, pieces of human garbage who've never worked a day in their lives and who promptly turn high production farms in to wastelands.

28 posted on 8/6/2015, 3:59:50 AM by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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quote:

To: LeoWindhorse

when will this begin in the US ?

It's ongoing with one exception. Instead of whites, they are Muslims.............

31 posted on 8/6/2015, 4:23:19 AM by varon (America for Americans first!)
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To: BlueNgold

Maybe they are familiar with the Mau Mau problem in Kenya in the past, and don’t want to be sitting ducks. Don’t assume they have the means to flee; they may have no recourse. Here in the US we have blacks raised to hate white people to the point of murder; nobody even discusses that. The ferocity with which run-of-the-mill robberies are morphing into savage murders should serve as a warning to any white American...

32 posted on 8/6/2015, 4:33:27 AM by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

If you have white skin the melanized downtrodden have labeled you racist out of the chute, and racist until you die, so you might as well stop trying to roll that boulder uphill, you will never get there.

If your children were facing the same racial onslaught, any organized attempt to defend yourself would be called racist. And it’s a slippery slope to being “in for a penny, in for a pound”, Not making excuses for white racists, just what do you expect. If a person thinks his survival is threatened, and the choice is being called “racist” above ground or a “good whitey” six feet below it.

Has zero to do with skin color. Look at black conservatives and how they are castigated by black media. If you ask them about Allen West, they deny he’s black. Race classification according to REAL racists has nothing to do with color, it has to do with who you do or do not hate. If a black man stops hating whites, to black racists he’s no longer “black”.

I’m unqualified to speak to South Africa, but I can speak to racists, because my life has been on the line because of the color of my skin more than once. I didn’t go away hating black people. I was more aware our civilization is becoming a jungle and there are dangerous animals in it. It takes more than having two legs to be called a human being.

If you have to walk in the jungle every day, be either a silent tiger or a deer with track shoes. I’m too old to run.

39 posted on 8/6/2015, 5:36:49 AM by GoneSalt
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They're just being realistic here.

quote:

To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like a response to the reality they are facing...

45 posted on 8/6/2015, 9:05:20 AM by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The Storm Front is against being BLACK communist or not...
The Communists are against being Non-Communist..
Most all Blacks are against being White and Non-communist..

Being White remaining in SA... is tantamount to STUPIDITY..

47 posted on 8/6/2015, 11:02:45 AM by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
I don't think my head can stop spinning from the irony of a freeper saying that whites should get the gently caress out of Africa.

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.
*Apartheid ends, SA immediately goes full neoliberal*
Freep: loving COMMUNISTS!

The Sin of Onan
Oct 11, 2012

And below,
watched by eyes of steel
we dreamt

Badera posted:

*Apartheid ends, SA immediately goes full neoliberal*
Freep: loving COMMUNISTS!

Took me an embarrassingly long time to realise you meant the country, not the forums.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"But they put dilapidation and poverty everywhere, instead of leaving it in the townships and bantustans where the white government put it. I hear the white areas aren't so well funded now because some of the money is being used to redevelop the hellholes that were constructed to put black people in." :qq:

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Paying purely for admission to shitpost is kinda neoliberal. Although I guess better in here than government.

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

The Sin of Onan posted:

Took me an embarrassingly long time to realise you meant the country, not the forums.

Well...that too.

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Post 9-11 User posted:

The root of my hair follicles contains DNA, does it get to vote?

Depends, is it white?

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