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Maxwell Lord posted:I feel almost like the injury- and the fact that he retired when he did- helped protect SC from really being as overexposed as Hogan and Cena became. Given the choice a promotion will always run with their #1 guy until forced to part with them. I'm not sure Cena is overexposed.
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St Evan Echoes posted:The shaky cam stuff is way less bad than it used to be Yeah, I'm really just wondering about the cut-on-impact method. What purpose does that possibly serve?
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Aug 6, 2015 09:55
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No the Bourne Identity was actually very fluid and visible in the action. It was the sequels that were poo poo.
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Aug 6, 2015 11:00
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:No the Bourne Identity was actually very fluid and visible in the action. It was the sequels that were poo poo. Oh yeah, I guess I kind of just lumped them all together.
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St Evan Echoes posted:The shaky cam stuff is way less bad than it used to be Now it's all zoomy cam.
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Aug 6, 2015 13:17
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Cena's not overexposed. Raw, for all its faults, isn't the John Cena Power Hour like everything revolved around Austin or the NWO. He's stale as poo poo but he's definitely not overexposed.
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Aug 6, 2015 13:58
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Maybe stale is the better word, true. It's whatever you call the cumulative effect of him having been THE #1 GUY for a decade or so.
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sticklefifer posted:I think I really only see this in WWE, but I'm struggling to think of a reason (other than being a lovely director) why Dunn has set up a system where he cuts to a different angle on every impact. Just in case a hit looks bad so they can edit later? But most of the time they don't even when a hit looks good, so it still looks like poo poo anyway. Dunn is not good at his job and owes having it entirely to his father and Vince believing he's in some weird blood debt for some tapes being saved from a fire. That's basically it in a nutshell. But he also actively sabotages careers and other efforts, because he's basically Wormtongue to Vince's Theodin, in an effort to protect his position. Including messing with NXT and the performers from it to put artificial hurdles in HHH's way to the top. His head is basically on a platter as soon as Vince has nothing to do with the company and he knows it.
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Aug 6, 2015 19:03
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Dunn is actually good at a lot of aspects of production, as much as everyone hates him
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Aug 6, 2015 19:05
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triplexpac posted:Dunn is actually good at a lot of aspects of production, as much as everyone hates him Yeah, he does the video packages iirc.
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triplexpac posted:Dunn is actually good at a lot of aspects of production, as much as everyone hates him That may have been true years ago but there are way too many missed shots during action and bad angles that ruin the suspension of disbelief these days. Considering he's in charge of this area, and it's happening constantly, I consider it being poor at your job if it's not being managed properly
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Aug 6, 2015 19:10
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triplexpac posted:Dunn is actually good at a lot of aspects of production, as much as everyone hates him The irony is for all the hate he gets, he probably has a hand in most peoples favourite ever WWF/WWE moments.
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Aug 6, 2015 19:15
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Such as Kelly Kelly finding some TITS!!!
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If you enjoyed it, then yes. Check: EVERYTHING.
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Aug 6, 2015 19:37
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As a producer Dunn is okay, the show still basically looks good for a live weekly three hour extravaganza and there's only the occasional foul up. It's more that he encourages Vince's worst tendencies. Maybe someone should offer him a job producing broadcasts for competitive curling or bowling or something.
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Another Person posted:I'm not sure Cena is overexposed. Cena is not overexposed. Those jorts are huge and we will never see his dick.
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Angular Landbury posted:Cena is not overexposed. Those jorts are huge and we will never see his dick. Better get on that make a wish.
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Angular Landbury posted:Cena is not overexposed. Those jorts are huge and we will never see his dick. I watched Trainwreck last night and I beg to differ.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:23
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Who are some guys who in your opinion picked the wrong move to be their finish? By that I mean they have a move they do better or that looks cooler as a signature. Edge didn't have very good finishes throughout his career IMO -- Edgecution is alright but it was the same thing Gangrel and Christian were doing. The Spear I've never liked as a finish, but Edge in particular never had the size of, say, Goldberg to make it look good. And I don't hate the Downward Spiral, but the Edge-o-Matic always struck me as a cool move that nobody else ever really did
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Aug 7, 2015 19:12
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Dolph Ziggler's superkick always looks like it should be finishing a match, then it doesn't and he goes with the lame looking Zigzag.
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Aug 7, 2015 19:14
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I always called Edges spe the 'running cuddle'
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DynamiteKidd posted:Who are some guys who in your opinion picked the wrong move to be their finish? He probably didn't pick it but the pedigree is a loving terrible finisher for Rollins.
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MisterGBH posted:I always called Edges spe the 'running cuddle' More of a leaping hug really.
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Aug 7, 2015 19:24
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The Attitude Adjustment/FU vs any other move
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Aug 7, 2015 19:54
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I preferred the Dirty Deeds as a headlock driver rather than a double underhook DDT. It was more unique and seemed to fit Ambrose better as a character.
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Blast Fantasto posted:I preferred the Dirty Deeds as a headlock driver rather than a double underhook DDT. It was more unique and seemed to fit Ambrose better as a character. This. The double arm DDT just plain sucked.
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Has anyone ever called into Alex Jones's show and asked him about Hogan, Nash and Hall?
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Aug 7, 2015 20:36
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Hogan's leg drop, not because of it's lameness, which is considerable, but also because finishing with the Ax bomber would likely have saved him a lot of surgeries.
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remusclaw posted:Hogan's leg drop, not because of it's lameness, which is considerable, but also because finishing with the Ax bomber would likely have saved him a lot of surgeries. I don't know. A 300lb man dropping his leg across your throat/chest seemed to me to be a lot more damaging than say, CM Punk's GTS.
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Davros1 posted:I don't know. A 300lb man dropping his leg across your throat/chest seemed to me to be a lot more damaging than say, CM Punk's GTS. It was ok in the '80s, but after that he kind of just gingerly lowered himself onto your face and if I wanted to see that poo poo I WOULD LEAVE IT TO MY WIFE
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I admit a fondness for lariat finishers in general. Another rather lacking one is the Shane Douglas/Magnum TA belly to belly. I honestly think the GTS is all in the sell, and WWE guys never sold it right. I think it works better with a knock out slow fall or crumple sell rather than a quick back bump. Essentially everyone needs to sell it more like Randy Orton taking the Sweet Chin Music. Though I suppose it would look better if Punk had really laid it in like Kenta tended to, but I think that would have been unlikely to be allowed in WWE.
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Aug 8, 2015 15:04
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remusclaw posted:I admit a fondness for lariat finishers in general. Another rather lacking one is the Shane Douglas/Magnum TA belly to belly. I honestly think the GTS is all in the sell, and WWE guys never sold it right. I think it works better with a knock out slow fall or crumple sell rather than a quick back bump. Essentially everyone needs to sell it more like Randy Orton taking the Sweet Chin Music. Though I suppose it would look better if Punk had really laid it in like Kenta tended to, but I think that would have been unlikely to be allowed in WWE. Magnum's Belly to Belly was awesome, though I did prefer Rick Steiner's. But the problem with the GTS was everyone landed on their feet after the fireman's carry, so it looked like poo poo. Plus it often looked like he struggled to actually toss them over his head.
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You're right about TA's Belly to belly, I shouldn't have used him as I really had more of an issue of Douglas using it in ECW where piledrivers and weapons shots made it seem a little underwhelming. In the 80's NWA finisher escalation really hadn't taken effect yet so the belly to belly is fine. One I didn't really care for was Dino Bravo's sidewalk slam, talk about a finish that makes a scoop slam look like a killer.
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remusclaw posted:You're right about TA's Belly to belly, I shouldn't have used him as I really had more of an issue of Douglas using it in ECW where piledrivers and weapons shots made it seem a little underwhelming. In the 80's NWA finisher escalation really hadn't taken effect yet so the belly to belly is fine. One I didn't really care for was Dino Bravo's sidewalk slam, talk about a finish that makes a scoop slam look like a killer. And yet Bossman made the sidewalk slam look like a killer. It's all in the execution.
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I named it wrong because it was named wrong in the clip I watched. Bravo does a side slam, like Kane as his finish. Boss Man's slam I have always liked, but I have known people who hate it. I guess it really is on the viewer more than anything else. Big Shows punch is really goofy though, its not even the argument that he should go for it all the time because if it hits it kills, it the fact that everyone else does punch all the drat time and Show actively seems to avoid punching during his matches because of his finish.
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Aug 8, 2015 16:49
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Especially since Big Show done that cobra clutch backbreaker that looked like it killed dudes in WWECW.
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The Emerald Flowsion being Misawa's ultimate killer move was kinda silly since the Tiger Driver '91 and Tiger Suplex '85 looked way more brutal. Hell even the elbow and regular Tiger Suplex were better finishes imo. I'd say it's about equal to the Tiger Driver and that was never a finisher on anyone but total geeks.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Especially since Big Show done that cobra clutch backbreaker that looked like it killed dudes in WWECW. Him doing that to Colin Delaney and then tossing him a solid 15 feet basically made me like The Big Show.
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Where did the concept of every wrestler having like 50 named signature spots that aren't finishers come from? The earliest I can think of is the Hardy Boyz, because it seemed like every move they did had a name.
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well there may also have been an element of innovation there too, with the Hardys. like if you've made a new move then it needs a name too. I dunno when they started giving names to every already-established move like Sheamus's move-set
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