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GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I want to be this guy.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
If you are above a certain age you'll see this and a specific scent will immediately flood your brain. For the young 'uns please do not confuse this with a mimeograph. They were not as entertaining.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

MageMage posted:

Haha no you don't, otherwise, please prove me wrong.


I totally do have this on T-Mobile



It's kind of buried in their site

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

GreenNight posted:

I want to be this guy.



If my parents still have that phone, I can help with like 1/32 of your goal. It's got a toggle for pulse/ dial tone.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

GreenNight posted:

I want to be this guy.



Come work at my office, then, we have two of those in operation in my department alone.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

WebDog posted:

My plan is $33 p.m with free text and 250mb a month and 200 hours of talk. :suicide:
Then again 90% of the time I'm around a wifi setup so you make use of Whatapp and Skype.

$35 a month 2.5 GB Unlimited Talk and Text. Cricket works pretty well for me.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Yeah we have a few plotters and CRT's around but not the PC, phone or hair gel.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

robodex posted:

Oh god, this reminds me of a "obsolete technology" that is thankfully dead/dying--giving carriers the ability to lock out core features on a whim on their "carrier-branded" phones. You still see it sometimes with Internet Tethering but the must frustrating thing about owning a dumbphone in the mid 2000s was having features like bluetooth hobbled because your carrier decided they didn't want you to have it. Or the time my Razr had the ability to set custom, non-purchased ringtones locked down. :argh:

Luckily I think once Apple came on the market and told carriers to shove it w/r/t branding it stopped a bit. You still see carrier branding and features getting locked out but it's nowhere near as egregious as back in the day.

Isn't that still the problem with Android? I had a Note 2 that went from 4.1 to 4.3 and that was it. No more updates. I don't know if the carrier ever put out a 4.4 or not. I just checked and the 2nd search result was from last year asking if we were ever going to see KitKat. So probably not.

I guess the problem is lessened somewhat in that important apps in Android get updated outside of a major release whereas Apple generally waits to update features in their core apps with the overall operating system. Still sucks though.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

GreenNight posted:

I want to be this guy.



drat, even has a Hockney on the wall. If I'd had a proper college education I might have been this guy.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

GreenNight posted:

I want to be this guy.



nice posting station

why are his shirt sleeves so poofy

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Most of the "burner phone" companies in North, South, and Central America (TracFone, Net10 Wireless, etc.) are all owned by one company (America Movil) and it's a loving juggernaut. Its CEO is the second richest person in the world, and was number one for a while a few years ago. They're not a huge deal in the U.S. but south of the border they own a staggering amount of the telecom marketshare.

People shittalk the phones and the fact that it's pay-as-you-go but goddrat if it isn't great to be able to walk into Walmart or CVS or whatever and come out five minutes later with a working smartphone that has no contract and unlimited nationwide calling and texting, all for pennies on the dollar when compared to what some people are paying for the latest and greatest iPhone on someone else's overpriced monthly plan :colbert:

big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

robodex posted:

Oh god, this reminds me of a "obsolete technology" that is thankfully dead/dying--giving carriers the ability to lock out core features on a whim on their "carrier-branded" phones. You still see it sometimes with Internet Tethering but the must frustrating thing about owning a dumbphone in the mid 2000s was having features like bluetooth hobbled because your carrier decided they didn't want you to have it. Or the time my Razr had the ability to set custom, non-purchased ringtones locked down. :argh:

Luckily I think once Apple came on the market and told carriers to shove it w/r/t branding it stopped a bit. You still see carrier branding and features getting locked out but it's nowhere near as egregious as back in the day.

And now the smartphones are able to be rooted/jailbroken to eliminate these issues if needed.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Pilsner posted:

Haha, WTF?

I have a 4G plan with 10 GB data, 10 hours calling, unlimited texting for.... approx $11 per month. And it's rock solid reception and speed all over. :denmark:

Mine's 4G with 14GB data, 7 hours calling and unlimited texting for $14.50, so not quite as cheap (you can flip it to 7GB/14 hours instead).

But if I add $22 on top of that, I get 20GB data and 14 hours of calling, plus HBO and 3 other video streaming services, unlimited music streaming, unlimited ebooks and digital subscriptions to 2 newspapers and 5 magazines. No data charges on any of the included services.

Last time I checked, I got 35/35 Mbit speeds on my S4 Mini, and it's been absolutely rock solid :denmark:

Now, if only I could get a battery that would actually last a full day of normal use...

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axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Dick Trauma posted:

If you are above a certain age you'll see this and a specific scent will immediately flood your brain. For the young 'uns please do not confuse this with a mimeograph. They were not as entertaining.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3iCvAQCHg

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner

Krispy Kareem posted:

Isn't that still the problem with Android? I had a Note 2 that went from 4.1 to 4.3 and that was it. No more updates. I don't know if the carrier ever put out a 4.4 or not. I just checked and the 2nd search result was from last year asking if we were ever going to see KitKat. So probably not.

I guess the problem is lessened somewhat in that important apps in Android get updated outside of a major release whereas Apple generally waits to update features in their core apps with the overall operating system. Still sucks though.

Eh sort of. In reality, it's less "your carrier is holding an update back" and more "your carrier doesn't want to invest the time and money testing the update completely with their network and all their branded cruft." There's really no financial benefit for them to do it and it's one of the biggest and most glaring flaws with Android.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

HA! That scene must confuse alot of people.

Trebek
Mar 7, 2002
College Slice
I still use an inkjet plotter almost daily. How else are you suppose to print 34"x44" floor plans. ANSI E baby

ArcMage
Sep 14, 2007

What is this thread?

Ramrod XTreme

robodex posted:

Eh sort of. In reality, it's less "your carrier is holding an update back" and more "your carrier doesn't want to invest the time and money testing the update completely with their network and all their branded cruft." There's really no financial benefit for them to do it and it's one of the biggest and most glaring flaws with Android.

In most cases it's the manufacturer holding the update back; Samsung needs to TouchWiz everything because they really want to be their own ecosystem, and HTC/LG/Motorola each to some degree want to customise their builds for their devices, maybe to use some exclusive functionality or whatever.

Ceasing to update devices past one or two iterations is a decision largely based on the two-year cellphone upgrade life cycle, and partially on the sometimes huge fundamental differences between apparently incremental Android version updates.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

Dick Trauma posted:

If you are above a certain age you'll see this and a specific scent will immediately flood your brain. For the young 'uns please do not confuse this with a mimeograph. They were not as entertaining.



Oh man, we had those in my elementary school.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Dick Trauma posted:

HA! That scene must confuse alot of people.

Not only did I understand that, the smell came back to me immediately.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Dick Trauma posted:

If you are above a certain age you'll see this and a specific scent will immediately flood your brain. For the young 'uns please do not confuse this with a mimeograph. They were not as entertaining.



Was it these or the mimeographs that could give you brain cancer?

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Jmcrofts posted:

I totally do have this on T-Mobile



It's kind of buried in their site

I've got completely unlimited data for about $90 a month including voice and unlimited texts. Grandfathered plan. It's expensive service, but I can run an ISP with my phone and I never get throttled.

That's pretty obsolete these days.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Fo3 posted:

My 8250 (AKA 8210 in the USA) still works, and that's been dropped and thrown numerous times. The colour screen ones and the sliders were fragile though and the earlier external antenna ones had that weak point. But monochrome circa 1997-2000 small phones are as strong as hell.


E: obsolete tech: A government website wasn't working, so just tonight I bloody faxed them a form.
It's me, I use obsolete tech.
Just last week I was wondering whether I should install a real magic DVD decoder card into an old PC, just so I could use the remote controller...

The 8210 was the green screen model and 8250 the blue screen one.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

I'm the super where I live, and I have a lovely, previously-mentioned Pantech flip phone. I plugged it in on my way to bed only to get a CHECK BATTERY warning. I took the battery out and put it back in a bunch of times. I tried different cords and ports. Got nothing. Since I'm on call nights and weekends, the phone not charging means that I wouldn't be able to leave the house.

I spent hours digging around and managed to find the Nokia 3100 I mentioned, as well as the charger. I got it in 2004, and replaced it in 2006. I had to use it briefly in 2008, which was the last time it was charged or turned on.

It still works and is taking a charge. I tested it by sending and receiving calls to my (obsolete) house phone and playing a game of nokia bowling.

As soon as I was done with that, the flip phone started charging again.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

robodex posted:

There's really no financial benefit for them to do it and it's one of the biggest and most glaring flaws with Android.
This is why you buy a Nexus. No branded bloatware and no wait for updates.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
An LGR fan sent in what may possibly be the worst game controller ever, the Demon Destroyer Gunn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO89FPclQjk

Also re phone plan chat: Europeans should keep in mind that US cellular plans include a coverage area 1/3rd larger than all of Europe (Alaska excluded because almost nobody lives there and it's huge) with barely half the population to spread the costs over. That doesn't completely excuse the horrible price structures of US cellular plans but even in a perfect world with benevolent cellular carriers our service plans would never be as cheap as yours (which usually don't even include roaming outside your home country, nobody in the US would even consider a cellular plan that didn't work outside their home state).

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL

Slanderer posted:

One of the more interesting things to result from Dreamcast's poor security was Bleemcast. This software was an emulator bootdisc for commercial PS1 games that was ported over from the PC version. The bleemcast disc would exploit the security hole when booted, and would then launch an emulator from RAM, which would allow you to swap in a PS1 disc. It was originally going to be a universal PS1 emulator, but because of compatibility issues they only ended up selling 3 different bootdiscs for Gran Turismo 2, Tekken 3, and Metal Gear Solid. Even with the emulation layer, the DC was able to run these games much better than an actual PS1, so they were rendered at a higher resolution with additional post processing. The DC controller didn't map 1:1 with the PS1 controller, which was an issue, but otherwise these discs apparently worked somehow. The PC version of Bleem was a full emulator, but many (or most?) games were unplayably buggy without dedicated compatibility fixes.

However, before they could release more bootdiscs (or a universal emulator), Sony sued them and drove them to bankruptcy with legal fees.

This is a few pages ago, but I loving loved Bleemcast. At the time I had a PS1 at one parents house and a DC at the other, so Bleemcast allowed me to play GT2 no matter where I was. I also had the RCA/VGA adapter so I could play DC on the computer monitor in my bedroom since I didn't have a tv in there. Good times. At least it was good times until I realized how bullshit NFL Blitz was, I'd be up by 35 points in the fourth quarter and it all the sudden became impossible to tackle anybody or complete a pass, causing me to lose game after game. Ended up putting a pretty good chip in the monitor screen when I finally lost my poo poo and threw the controller at the screen. Luckily, I'm an adult now and instead of throwing things I just yell at them so no possible harm can occur.

Oh also, I had the a Sega CD and it was goddamn useless. As a Genesis it worked fine, but only some CD game would actually work. I traded out 3 or 4 copies of Mortal Kombat at KB Toys because it couldn't load on Sega CD. Eventually I remembered that I had Mortal Kombat 2 on Genesis and that it was far superior game in every possible way.

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big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Inspector 34 posted:

This is a few pages ago, but I loving loved Bleemcast. At the time I had a PS1 at one parents house and a DC at the other, so Bleemcast allowed me to play GT2 no matter where I was. I also had the RCA/VGA adapter so I could play DC on the computer monitor in my bedroom since I didn't have a tv in there. Good times. At least it was good times until I realized how bullshit NFL Blitz was, I'd be up by 35 points in the fourth quarter and it all the sudden became impossible to tackle anybody or complete a pass, causing me to lose game after game. Ended up putting a pretty good chip in the monitor screen when I finally lost my poo poo and threw the controller at the screen. Luckily, I'm an adult now and instead of throwing things I just yell at them so no possible harm can occur.

Oh also, I had the a Sega CD and it was goddamn useless. As a Genesis it worked fine, but only some CD game would actually work. I traded out 3 or 4 copies of Mortal Kombat at KB Toys because it couldn't load on Sega CD. Eventually I remembered that I had Mortal Kombat 2 on Genesis and that it was far superior game in every possible way.

Ahhh, NFL Blitz, what a good game

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

RC and Moon Pie posted:

It may not have been a Motorola, but it was quite similar to this:



It plugged into the power outlet of your car.

My parents had those back in the day. Amusingly, when I bought a 1992 F150 in 2004, it had the part that's in the bag permanently mounted behind the driver's seat. Exact same model my mom had at one point.

KozmoNaut posted:

These swivel belt clips were the absolute business for the 5110 etc.



They seemed to hold up pretty well back in the day.
When my parents upgraded phones and I was handed down the first one Mom had that wasn't luggage, it had a slot between the battery and body for the phone-side nubbin that went into that. There were also third-party glue-on nubbins for phones that didn't have the slot. So you just had the naked phone dangling from your belt. It was a weird time.

GreenNight posted:

I want to be this guy.


My high school drafting class (circa 1998) had a pen plotter. It used these lil' guys:



We also had an ancient diazo machine kept around as a curiosity:



Had to open all the windows when demonstrating it, because the hose to the jug of ammonia was a bit leaky.

Lazlo Nibble
Jan 9, 2004

It was Weasleby, by God! At last I had the miserable blighter precisely where I wanted him!

Delivery McGee posted:

When my parents upgraded phones and I was handed down the first one Mom had that wasn't luggage, it had a slot between the battery and body for the phone-side nubbin that went into that. There were also third-party glue-on nubbins for phones that didn't have the slot. So you just had the naked phone dangling from your belt. It was a weird time.
Not just phones. I had (and probably still have around here somewhere) an aluminum hardshell case for my Palm Tungsten that'd snap into one of those clips:

It was a little too ridiculous to actually wear that way though.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
Everything from Nokia back then was indestructible.

I was one of the tens of people who had the Nokia 7380.



Dropped it in a toilet, keeps working. Partying for a night and it's been sitting underwater for 8 hours? Still working.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

chitoryu12 posted:

Also I'm really considering carrying one of my massive collection of military canteens on my belt instead of carrying a disposable water bottle, since it holds more than your average PET bottle and is immediately at hand.

Please take a picture of you wearing this in your daily life.

Deedle
Oct 17, 2011
before you ask, yes I did inform the DMV of my condition and medication, and I passed the medical and psychological evaluation when I got my license. I've passed them every time I have gone to renew my license.

Mr.Radar posted:

An LGR fan sent in what may possibly be the worst game controller ever, the Demon Destroyer Gunn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO89FPclQjk

Also re phone plan chat: Europeans should keep in mind that US cellular plans include a coverage area 1/3rd larger than all of Europe (Alaska excluded because almost nobody lives there and it's huge) with barely half the population to spread the costs over. That doesn't completely excuse the horrible price structures of US cellular plans but even in a perfect world with benevolent cellular carriers our service plans would never be as cheap as yours (which usually don't even include roaming outside your home country, nobody in the US would even consider a cellular plan that didn't work outside their home state).

I'm sorry, but how is it possible to have a phone subscription that doesn't do at least EU roaming at the same rate as a domestic call?
I live so close to the border that half the time I am on a German network and it makes no difference to my rates for anything.

Roaming costs within the EU are pretty much non-existent.
Having to bother with roaming costs used to be an issue a few years back, it certainly isn't now.

Also why is it that when I call my friend in Tucson, that she freaks out over having to pay to receive the call? That right there is an alien concept, having to pay to receive an international call when in your home country.
I don't have to pay to receive a call when I am in Germany, Belgium, or any EU country. Nor do I have to pay to receive an international calls when I am in The Netherlands.

Edit: I pay €4 a month for 275mb/minutes/sms. Tacking on 1gb extra is €3 a month, but between FON and other public WiFi I have no reason to do that.

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Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
In the US, you use minutes from your allocation for all calls, incoming or outgoing (They did the same for SMS too). As far as I know, there's only an extra charge for placed international calls (Not sure if those also burn allocated minutes). I guess a collect call would also be a charge.

Most plans don't count calls within a provider (Verizon to Verizon calls), or calls on nights and weekends.

However, keeping track of minutes is becoming an obsolete technology as many plans have unlimited minutes included, or such a large amount that it's effectively unlimited.

I'm waiting for data plans to have gimmicks like unlimited nights and weekends, and some sort of 'in network' unlimited.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Deedle posted:

I'm sorry, but how is it possible to have a phone subscription that doesn't do at least EU roaming at the same rate as a domestic call?
I live so close to the border that half the time I am on a German network and it makes no difference to my rates for anything.

Roaming costs within the EU are pretty much non-existent.
Having to bother with roaming costs used to be an issue a few years back, it certainly isn't now.

I have 3 and EU-roaming costs me extra, even in other countries where 3 is operating. Data is particularly expensive.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

Pilsner posted:

Haha, WTF?

I have a 4G plan with 10 GB data, 10 hours calling, unlimited texting for.... approx $11 per month. And it's rock solid reception and speed all over. :denmark:

:denmark::respek::denmark:

I don't use them, but for instance, right now Bibob.dk has 40 GB data, 10 hours, unlimited texts with 4G for ~$16 for the rest of the year.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Data roaming within EU is still expensive from some countries. There are EU regulations in the pipe that will restrict roaming charges though.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



RE: Phonechat

Before the iPhone came out, this was my dream phone:



Other than the Treo 600, there was nothing else like it, at least that I knew of. I always thought it'd be cool to have a full keyboard for texting friends and surf on whatever passed for phone internet at the time (nope, WiFi was never something I thought about). It's interesting to walk back down Memory Lane and see what "smartphones" looked like before actually became smartphones.

less than three posted:

Everything from Nokia back then was indestructible.

I was one of the tens of people who had the Nokia 7380.



Dropped it in a toilet, keeps working. Partying for a night and it's been sitting underwater for 8 hours? Still working.

So....no keypad for dialing numbers, then? Reminds me of my LG Chocolate, only more useless.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

less than three posted:

Everything from Nokia back then was indestructible.

I was one of the tens of people who had the Nokia 7380.



Dropped it in a toilet, keeps working. Partying for a night and it's been sitting underwater for 8 hours? Still working.

I'm disappointed they didn't emulate a rotary phone for dialing using the jog-dial.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

So....no keypad for dialing numbers, then? Reminds me of my LG Chocolate, only more useless.

You’re telling me it doesn’t flip or slide or spin? :psyduck:

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