WobblySausage posted:Yeah. Just Chrome with a couple tabs and HWMonitor running. Try repasting it, it can't hurt.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Try repasting it, it can't hurt. Alright will do. Under load (FFXIV Arr Benchmark) it's still reaching the 100ºc mark with automatic fan settings. Oddly the motherboard temperature went down under load, so I'm guessing that's an incorrect reading. Hopefully I can just repaste this and get it within acceptable range. If that doesn't work then maybe I'll just see if I can underclock it to make sure it's safe. Non-power user non-gamer so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the help. vv: Alright I'm picking up some GC-Extreme paste. Here's hoping. WobblySausage fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Aug 8, 2015 04:28
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WobblySausage posted:Yeah. Just Chrome with a couple tabs and HWMonitor running. When my 4 year old 2500k + H100 started getting load temps of 90c I replaced the H100's old stock baked on thermal paste with some Ceramique 2 and my temps dropped 20c.
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Aug 8, 2015 04:43
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Yeah, the motherboard temperature is a misreading. (2^8 - 1 degrees Fahrenheit is not a coincidence.)
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Aug 8, 2015 06:59
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WobblySausage posted:The core of this rig is about six years old now. Could it be TIM degradation or a loose heatsink maybe? I haven't touched the thermal paste since I initially installed my CPU. I want to pass this down to a relative while getting an upgrade, but not if it's unsafe. Oh and it will never be "unsafe". The worst thing that will happen, should your processor think "it's getting a bit hot in here ..." is that it'll throttle itself down to a safer speed. We're past the AMD Athlon-frying-itself-days. Edit: There was one more page 
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While bad paste jobs are common*, some pastes do dry out and become less efficient over time. *unless you follow a professional companies How To video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCVahyh3Dk
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I spent a few hours today researching what 6700k overclocking would mean with my current cooling fan and selecting a new motherboard and RAM kit. Then I went to add the 6700k to my cart and found out that NewEgg doesn't have them in stock yet. I guess I should have checked that part out first instead of assuming all of the reviews meant it was available already.In any case, the ASUS Z170-A seems like a good choice of motherboard. I'm planning to upgrade from a 2600k.
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Ak Gara posted:While bad paste jobs are common*, some pastes do dry out and become less efficient over time.  They're joking, right? This is a parody?
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Inverness posted:I spent a few hours today researching what 6700k overclocking would mean with my current cooling fan and selecting a new motherboard and RAM kit. Just so you know the 4790k with a decent cooler(say a CRYORIG H7 or be quiet! PURE ROCK), a good H97 motherboard (because the overclocking gains are dismal) and your old RAM would be way, way cheaper and about as fast, maybe a little faster. The 6700k OCs even worse than the 4790k, the motherboards are pretty expensive right now and so is the RAM. Twerk from Home posted:
Nope, MSI put that video up then pulled it down fairly quickly but that guy managed to save it and reuploaded it.
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I'm disappointed. Not only by Skylake, but also the quality of that Anandtech review.
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Twerk from Home posted:
Lol I always thought it just goes to show that sperging over paste application has never been really fruitful... not that I'd ever do that poo poo. I've seen plenty of factory applied pasting that was downright worse than that (GPU's) although I'll go ahead and say that matters far more than the cpu
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Just so you know the 4790k with a decent cooler(say a CRYORIG H7 or be quiet! PURE ROCK), a good H97 motherboard (because the overclocking gains are dismal) and your old RAM would be way, way cheaper and about as fast, maybe a little faster. The 6700k OCs even worse than the 4790k, the motherboards are pretty expensive right now and so is the RAM. And while I did a some overclocking research, it's not something I care too much about. Overclocking the 6700k to 4.6 or 4.7 GHz would be fine for me. I'm also not in a position where I really need to overclock my CPU, so if my current cooling setup doesn't work well for that then I won't bother. For reference, what I'm buying to go with the 6700K: ASUS Z170-A LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4-21300) Desktop Memory Model F4-2666C15Q-32GRR And my current cooling fan that I'll continue to use: XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler Assuming the CPU is $350, that's a $750 purchase all together. I'm fine with the expense. Inverness fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Inverness posted:Thanks for the suggestion, but my intent is to move up to the latest generation. Upgrading to a motherboard with LGA1151 and DDR4 RAM support gives me better options for future CPU upgrades. While I might upgrade the CPU sooner if Intel makes some large performance gain, I want a new motherboard and RAM set to be good for another 4 years. I'd cut the RAM to 16GB, unless you need to do something that eats up gobs of RAM like photoshop on huge images or video editing 16GB will be more than enough, plus you can always grab another 16GB later on if it isn't enough. Also, buy a better cooler, the CRYORIG H7 or be quiet! PURE ROCK are only $35 and $30 respectively and will keep your CPU temps down so the new processor does not throttle itself and it will also be much quieter than something with a 92mm fan, you're already looking to spend a lot so a decent cooler just makes sense.
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frunksock posted:I'm disappointed. Not only by Skylake, but also the quality of that Anandtech review. It's been garbage ever since Anand Shimpi left for Apple, and I'm sure it's only going to get worse. Too bad.
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That reminds me, what was the hot new PC tech magazine that popped up in the late '90s or early '00s and featured Anand and people along the lines of him or John Romero for guest columns? I definitely subscribed to that one for a while.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'd cut the RAM to 16GB, unless you need to do something that eats up gobs of RAM like photoshop on huge images or video editing 16GB will be more than enough, plus you can always grab another 16GB later on if it isn't enough. Also, buy a better cooler, the CRYORIG H7 or be quiet! PURE ROCK are only $35 and $30 respectively and will keep your CPU temps down so the new processor does not throttle itself and it will also be much quieter than something with a 92mm fan, you're already looking to spend a lot so a decent cooler just makes sense. The Cryorig cooler looks very nice. I'll go with that. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Xeon E3 branding coming to mobile parts, sounds like TB3 will be required: http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2015/08/bringing-intel-xeon-to-notebook-pcs/
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Twerk from Home posted:It's been garbage ever since Anand Shimpi left for Apple, and I'm sure it's only going to get worse. Too bad. If you ask me their reviews have been subpar for at least the past 5 years...Their saving grace is their chip architecture analysis which provides a good read but ultimately irrelevant to buying decisions.
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Can a NVMe SSD such as the Intel 750 be booted directly from the CPU PCI-E channels? Or does it need to go through the PCH e: on the Z170 mobos
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japtor posted:Xeon E3 branding coming to mobile parts, sounds like TB3 will be required: does 'portable workstation' mean those 2 inch thick dell business monstrosities
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japtor posted:Xeon E3 branding coming to mobile parts, sounds like TB3 will be required: This would be great for a low power server at home.
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Generic Monk posted:does 'portable workstation' mean those 2 inch thick dell business monstrosities
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Just to show how lame the 6600K is: http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20862-intel-core-i7-6700k-och-i5-6600k-skylake/14#content DA:I - 6700K a whopping ~41% faster in minimum FPS Witcher 3 - Couldn't beat a 2600K 4 years ago Skyrim - 6700K ~28% faster in minimum FPS "Overclock i5 or GTFO" and "i7/HT is useless for gaming" are myths that reeeeally needs to die right now. The idea of buying a $150+ Z170 board to overclock an i5 is frankly stupid. Palladium fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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dud root posted:Can a NVMe SSD such as the Intel 750 be booted directly from the CPU PCI-E channels? Or does it need to go through the PCH I am also curious about this and would also be interested in seeing some benchmarks for it configured both ways.
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Palladium posted:Just to show how lame the 6600K is: http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20862-intel-core-i7-6700k-och-i5-6600k-skylake/14#content As someone who has never played Skyrim, is it really even worth using as a benchmark anymore? I know people add mods that make it use a quadrillion more gigs of ram or some such, but is it really that taxing on modern hardware? I mean, an 8370 doesn't drop below 100 fps.
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dud root posted:Can a NVMe SSD such as the Intel 750 be booted directly from the CPU PCI-E channels? Or does it need to go through the PCH Probably depends on which PCIe slot you plug it in to on the motherboard. Usually there's two physical x16 slots connected to CPU lanes and the rest are connected to the PCH.
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go3 posted:you can still make Skyrim eat up every little bit of GPU you can throw at it but I'm not sure its a good idea to include it in CPU benchmarks Skyrim's lousy scripting system make it a great CPU torture test.
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Palladium posted:Just to show how lame the 6600K is: http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20862-intel-core-i7-6700k-och-i5-6600k-skylake/14#content This must be a combination of how high the base clocks on the 4790K / 6700K are, the additional cache, and the hyperthreading. Looks like once again the cheaper H-series chipset + an i7 K is going to be the high-end value point. Now we just need the H170 motherboards to get here. Do we have an official ETA?
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frunksock posted:I'm disappointed. Not only by Skylake, but also the quality of that Anandtech review. What's wrong with it? Just curious, they seem to still be significantly above average as far as PC hardware review sites go.
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Panty Saluter posted:Skyrim's lousy scripting system make it a great CPU torture test. How much do you have to have going on for it to really stress stuff out? A friend has been playing hefily-modded Skyrim on an i3 4330 + GTX 750 build, and frankly the CPU doesn't come close to bottlenecking.
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Potato Salad posted:How much do you have to have going on for it to really stress stuff out? A friend has been playing hefily-modded Skyrim on an i3 4330 + GTX 750 build, and frankly the CPU doesn't come close to bottlenecking.
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Anandtech: "Sandy bridge your time is up" **Graphs show poor performance in gaming vs sandy bridge, the single deciding factor to upgrade for most people on the 2600K cpus" I know that the biggest gains you'll get is with video card upgrade, but 25% increase in cpu performance but detectable losses on the graphic benchmarks don't add up to that claim the sandy bridge should be sunsetted.
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I was being a little facetious but even a vanilla Skyrim savegame will have a ton of orphaned scripts gumming up the works after a while.
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incoherent posted:Anandtech: "Sandy bridge your time is up" Well, of course not. But maybe even they're tired of writing the same conclusions over and over: Sandy Bridge is fine. Which, overclocked, in the case of games and general use, it still is. Which isn't a very exciting conclusion for people who probably get paid in ad revenue based around selling new poo poo.
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I can't say I've ever had a CPU bottleneck on Skyrim even with some of the more retarded NPC adding scripts going on.
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HalloKitty posted:Well, of course not. But maybe even they're tired of writing the same conclusions over and over: Sandy Bridge is fine. Which, overclocked, in the case of games and general use, it still is. Which isn't a very exciting conclusion for people who probably get paid in ad revenue based around selling new poo poo. I'll probably move to skylake for native usb 3.1 Gen 2, type-c usb, m.2, and maybe thunderbolt but don't sell anyone a load of horse poo poo that the cpu is going to push this decision. This just means i'll wait for Krabby patty...err Kaby Lake
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go3 posted:I can't say I've ever had a CPU bottleneck on Skyrim even with some of the more retarded NPC adding scripts going on. Unless you have an AMD CPU, in which case you can buy an FX-9590 turbo'ing to 5GHz and burning over 200W, then still fail to match Sandy Bridge that turbos to 3.4. 
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Yay for awful thermal performance without delidding on Skylake! If it's such a cost issue as they always say, why was it so viable in the Sandy Bridge days, when Sandy Bridge cost less comparatively than the newer CPUs? If only they would offer a die with no GPU and the IHS soldered, it would no doubt cost less to produce overall, and be better in every way that matters to someone buying a top-end CPU for the desktop.
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