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Kalenn Istarion posted:So what happened to the old thread? There was 30 pages of posts in 2 days and then this. Nobody can duplicate the perfect storm of bitcoin, J4G, and sheer lunacy that occurred in the dying throws of that thread.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So what happened to the old thread? There was 30 pages of posts in 2 days and then this. Eonwe asked nicely.
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Aug 10, 2015 16:25
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Modularity is the new milking mechanism. Selling a base Retaliator for $150 opens up the market for folks who dropped $110 and want something bigger, and then it's easier to justify dropping $25 or so for a cargo pod. Now extend that to all of the other platforms and you can see how things would work. For example let's say the Cutlass somehow manages to not suck. I might own a Black for $110, but I might be willing to drop an extra $5 for the Red cockpit and maybe another $40 for souped up engines. At this point most backers will likely melt and convert stuff, but you're still going to capture people dropping an extra $5 here and there. I feel like the real next cashcow is going to be hangar modularity around when the social module comes out. Org armory. Org fuel depo. Org rooms. Org orgy salon. All of the things that you'll want to have on hand so you don't have to ever go outside.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So what happened to the old thread? There was 30 pages of posts in 2 days and then this. Neoliberal "I took a few classes in poli-sci in college" Redditor invasion.
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Dusty Lens posted:I feel like the real next cashcow is going to be hangar modularity around when the social module comes out. Org armory. Org fuel depo. Org rooms. Org orgy salon. Exactly. And the real spenders will want to make sure they have all of that for their own personal use. gently caress having friends.
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What's the story with the terrible flight model? Most of the movement of ships I've seen in demos or whatever looks incredibly unrealistic, like none of the ships actually have any mass to them, there is virtually no momentum whatsoever. They wanted to simulate all the thrusters separately and stuff right, is this what things are meant to look like or what?
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Dusty Lens posted:I feel like the real next cashcow is going to be hangar modularity around when the social module comes out. Org armory. Org fuel depo. Org rooms. Org orgy salon. I'm waiting to see how much they sell trench coats and fedoras for. It's going to be like EVE's monocle-gate but everybody will be happy about it instead.
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Aug 10, 2015 16:48
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asking nicely is the key to getting what you want
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Aug 10, 2015 16:48
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does someone want to take the OP of the old thread and remove the timg tags for me and PM it to me im at work so otherwise it wont happen for like 8 more hours
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AP posted:The Next Great Dr. Derek Smart would totally never make poo poo up out of whole cloth, Legal would never approve it!!!!!
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El Grillo posted:What's the story with the terrible flight model? Most of the movement of ships I've seen in demos or whatever looks incredibly unrealistic, like none of the ships actually have any mass to them, there is virtually no momentum whatsoever. They wanted to simulate all the thrusters separately and stuff right, is this what things are meant to look like or what? The ships have mass, but the maneuvering thrusters are also incredibly powerful. On fighters this means they can arrest the momentum quickly. Fighters still slide quite a bit, its just not as noticeable unless you observe a ship from a stationary position with some other static object to use as reference. When you're the pilot and you're trying to avoid sliding into objects you become keenly aware of drift very quickly. Basically any of the racing maps. Supposedly as ships get bigger the relative power of the maneuvering thrusters goes down, so they are very ponderous and slow.
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El Grillo posted:What's the story with the terrible flight model? Most of the movement of ships I've seen in demos or whatever looks incredibly unrealistic, like none of the ships actually have any mass to them, there is virtually no momentum whatsoever. They wanted to simulate all the thrusters separately and stuff right, is this what things are meant to look like or what? It's still actively being tuned, and some significant changes were made in the last big patch that give ships some more feeling of mass, though it's not quite there yet from what I've played lately. Previously, all the flight model work was being done by their physics programming lead, but they've brought in at least one other person to contradict his opinions, and things have been getting better since then. I'm guessing the next major set of changes won't go in until the larger ships are implemented in 2.0, however, since they will change the dogfighting landscape significantly.
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RE: Cptunderpants post earlier, and beer's follow up. There is a gap of about 200,000 people who have bought ships and pledged but have not purchased a package (S42). That seems like a significant amount of money, but probably not enough to get them to where they need to go (only ~$6 million, isn't that impressive given how much they rake in monthly just on concept sales). What it does do, however, is reinvigorate the fanbase, to both buy more into future concept sales, as well as provide a neat vehicle for recruiting people looking for a single player game, but neither of these two aspects are certain bets given how the core consumers are starting to get tapped out (and how everyone who is into the genre has already bought in). I wouldn't say that they are without hope, considering they have raised 87 million, and can still rake in ~1 million from a couple items, they almost certainly have access to financing/investment to finish it off though.
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Hey look, another 250 Javelins mysteriously showed up for sale at $10k each! How generous of the UEE.
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There's no way S42 won't be less than $70 at release.
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its almost as if the HOLY poo poo TIME LIMITED GET THEM NOW OR NEVER AGAIN ships are only as limited as their budget is currently
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AP posted:Yeah I thought there was a chance they'd gently caress the Games Con stream up, have a couple of crashes or something, that combined with DEREK SMART and the press finally paying attention might possibly have been enough to spook a real fire sale on the 2nd hand market and maybe start a flood of refunds. edit: wait, I get it, pun on Gamescom and Chris Roberts scamming, ignore.
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this is a great game if you want a high octane adventure in space
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Eonwe posted:does someone want to take the OP of the old thread and remove the timg tags for me and PM it to me With a great OP comes great responsibility. You wanted the job, you gotta do the work.
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peter gabriel posted:this is a great game if you want a high octane adventure in space What if we want this same experience but instead as a high octane adventure in a 19th century coal town?
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rip ok ill do it tonight
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:With a great OP comes great responsibility. You wanted the job, you gotta do the work. Someone should change it for him, and introduce a bunch of minor edits that make things worse.
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worst op person
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kloa posted:worst op person art imitates life
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kloa posted:worst op person Not their fault, YOU try typing with toes that big... and pink.
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I was thinking about making a thread for Armored Warfare where I just take the World of Tanks OP and replace all the Wargaming stuff with Obsidian stuff and then post that. I've realized I'm far too lazy and would like to instead hire Eonwe to take on this task.
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peter gabriel posted:this is a great game if you want a high octane adventure in space
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Apparently the "beat" arena commander stipulation for the glaive token was actually a "get to wave 18" requirement. What the gently caress is wrong with their QA department that they couldn't get to wave 18.
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If the game requires $150M to finish, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that CIG has secured private investments anyway. I think what most investors (real investors, lol) want is a proof of concept, and theoretically, CIG has done that. I think SC will be finished, eventually in some form. What remains to be seen, and what I'm least convinced about, is whether the finished product will be a good game that is fun to play and delivers on what was promised. Also: Someone compiled a far, far more detailed funding spreadsheet than I've seen before that some may find interesting: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tMAP0fg-AKScI3S3VjrDW3OaLO4zgBA1RSYoQOQoNSI/edit#gid=1694467207 Kimsemus fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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I think the Avenger was the smallest ship with internal modularity slated for it. The hornet has all external mods.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So what happened to the old thread? There was 30 pages of posts in 2 days and then this. /r/atheism and D&D formed a gestalt intelligence which congealed into human form. The new creation's first act as a sentient being was to start posting here. xanif posted:Apparently the "beat" arena commander stipulation for the glaive token was actually a "get to wave 18" requirement. They were probably lying in the presentation. Dusty Lens posted:I feel like the real next cashcow is going to be hangar modularity around when the social module comes out. Org armory. Org fuel depo. Org rooms. Org orgy salon. I wonder if this will give us the ability to infiltrate, then thieve and run.
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Kylra posted:Hey look, another 250 Javelins mysteriously showed up for sale at $10k each! How generous of the UEE. The Croba Oompas have been toiling in the bit mines to strike up this new vein of rare spaceships, you ingrate.
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Gerbil_Pen posted:I think the Avenger was the smallest ship with internal modularity slated for it. The hornet has all external mods. That makes sense. The Aurora, M50, Gladius, and 300i are all too compact to get any kind of modular system. The Mustang might end up with something where the cargo pod is (currently it can be a racer, camper, cargo, or gunboat) but they might just keep it as variants. As you say the Hornet's modularity is all external and is already well established. The Reliant is another question mark. I could see the cargo pod in the Aurora being exchangeable for a mission-specific toolbox. Like a salvage or mining module.
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Hey guys they are stealin' our money. 
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Iron Tusk posted:/r/atheism and D&D formed a gestalt intelligence which congealed into human form. The new creation's first act as a sentient being was to start posting here. Yes but if they purchase renters insurance with RL money they will be protected. Buy an org armory and barracks module now for $2k and it comes with lifetime renters insurance. Goonsurance Policy.
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After the whole "Do the ban, I don't care, and unban me if the game comes out," guy tenbuxed his way back in.
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CashEnsign posted:Hey guys they are stealin' our money. Wow someone with a few working brain cells
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:That makes sense. The Aurora, M50, Gladius, and 300i are all too compact to get any kind of modular system. The Mustang might end up with something where the cargo pod is (currently it can be a racer, camper, cargo, or gunboat) but they might just keep it as variants. As you say the Hornet's modularity is all external and is already well established. The Reliant is another question mark. I could see the reliant being modular. You can put on a new center section or a new vertical wing set.
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Potato Salad posted:After the whole "Do the ban, I don't care, and unban me if the game comes out," guy tenbuxed his way back in. Wrong guy, SC_Druggie fell on his sword, Seraph84 is (looking at post history) yukking it up in the bitcoin thread in YOSPOS 
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My mistake, it was Druggie that was banned. Can't keep 'em straight. Regardless, the discussion seems have to mutated -- it's PM-borne!
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