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Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
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I also like that I can use more than one language, so that's useful.

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Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Collateral Damage posted:

I had a 7110 for a short time. It had the same Matrix-like slide function with a button on the side that made the "mouthpiece" shoot out.



The latch for the slide tended to wear out quickly though and after a while it wouldn't stay closed.

The sliding keypad cover was a great gimmick, but the most striking feature of this phone was its enormous screen. Doesn't look much today, but when a friend rolled up with one of these it was like an IMAX screen in comparison to all our other phones. Don't think my phone could display graphics of any sort, and he has Snake II and an animated hand intro.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


flosofl posted:

I had that phone, and I got lucky with the slide I guess. It was like a tank and I used it for years until ATT forced me over to GSM.

I'm guessing you had the TDMA version. There were two versions with GSM so you could have technically still had the same phone (buy different version)

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Horace posted:

The sliding keypad cover was a great gimmick, but the most striking feature of this phone was its enormous screen. Doesn't look much today, but when a friend rolled up with one of these it was like an IMAX screen in comparison to all our other phones. Don't think my phone could display graphics of any sort, and he has Snake II and an animated hand intro.
IIRC the 7110 was also the first Nokia phone with WAP, which is a technology highly suited for this thread.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Collateral Damage posted:

IIRC the 7110 was also the first Nokia phone with WAP, which is a technology highly suited for this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSSsuSssg0

This was the advert for it in Britain.

and oh dear god, was that misleading. What you basically got was a text messaging service.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Collateral Damage posted:

IIRC the 7110 was also the first Nokia phone with WAP, which is a technology highly suited for this thread.

I remember huddling around an early-ish colour phone with a couple of friends in high school as we waited for tiny porn thumbnails to load at speeds many times slower than dial-up, via WAP - which I'm certain was quickly eroding my friend's credit.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I had one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1YBrVevn4w

It was an amazing phone for the time and the ad is pretty full on ehhhhh.

After this phone I didn't have another mobile for about 10 years or so.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

I had a C35, but the buttons were too squishy and hard to use so I traded it in for an S35, which was such a good phone I kept it for eight years.

The C35 came with free weekend WAP access, but even free it wasn't worth the effort. There was an online boxing game I remember trying to play where you were presented with a picture of your opponent and two options. After choosing an option you had to wait about 30 seconds to a minute for the next screen to load. Agonising.

The phone also had a programmable shortcut button which the network had hijacked and locked to their lovely WAP portal. Dicks.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
My old Sony Ericsson smart phones had quick access buttons for internet use.
Which was sort of a death-trap for your tiny data limit of 50mb a month if you bumped it on.
But then back in 2004 it was a pure novelty to use the internet on your mobile to cheat at quiz nights. But then it was barely worth it as the speed was so painfully slow on 2G or whatever it was back then.

It was pretty hilarious back then to install emulators or DOOM on the SE P900 and wow/frustrate people with trying to play DOOM with a stylus. The IR transmitter was fantastic for being a total dick and loading up remote profiles and turning off projectors and TVs.

At least the P1i allowed it's button to get re-programmed or turned off.
I once used it as an emergency phone to replace the galaxy and managed to get it to synch up reasonably well email and contacts wise. You forget how much of a clumsy interface Symbian was. Ironically that phone had more features than an iPhone on it's launch. It could multi-task and had a flash for the camera!
I had it around for a while that people would exclaim "what the gently caress is that?" when I pulled it out.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
This was probably my favorite phone prior to the iPhone:

Kyoera 6035:


I worked at a dial-up ISP at the time, so it was really useful for calling and testing internet access on the included 14.4 modem. Sprint liked to call that 'data usage' even though I wasn't actually using any of their data. That was a fun bill to dispute.

I played so much DopeWars on that phone.

big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Krispy Kareem posted:

This was probably my favorite phone prior to the iPhone:

Kyoera 6035:


I worked at a dial-up ISP at the time, so it was really useful for calling and testing internet access on the included 14.4 modem. Sprint liked to call that 'data usage' even though I wasn't actually using any of their data. That was a fun bill to dispute.

I played so much DopeWars on that phone.

DopeWars, wasn't that also the game that there was an emulator for on TI-83s?

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



drgnwr1 posted:

DopeWars, wasn't that also the game that there was an emulator for on TI-83s?

probably a port/reimplementation rather than an emulator. That game went everywhere.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Pham Nuwen posted:

probably a port/reimplementation rather than an emulator. That game went everywhere.

I remember having like three different versions throughout high school, so probably several reimplementations. Then I went off to college and all my programs ended up being notes on probability/statistics.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Horace posted:

I had a C35, but the buttons were too squishy and hard to use so I traded it in for an S35, which was such a good phone I kept it for eight years.
Oh man, that S35 was great. The best phone I ever had relative tot the standards of when it was current. I paid like the equivalent of $500 for it when it was new. That seems absolutely bonkers now.

big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Magnus Praeda posted:

I remember having like three different versions throughout high school, so probably several reimplementations. Then I went off to college and all my programs ended up being notes on probability/statistics.

Indeed, and 4 calculators. 2 non-graphing, a TI-83 and a TI-89

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lowen SoDium posted:

What was the PDA that Reed Richards uses in the second (?) Fantastic Four movie? I want to say it was a Nokia?

That reminded me that Nokia released a smartphone-sized Linux tablet in 2005.



The Nokia 770 had 4.1 inch 800x480 screen, and a full Internet browser with flash, as well as digital software distribution through APT.

Of course since Nokia had their head up their rear end at that point, they had no idea what to do with it. For some reason they never put a phone or modem in it, so it was limited to WiFi/tethering, and it was missing essential features like a calendar and contacts. They never seemed to try marketing it to the mainstream either, so it was mostly used by Linux nerds.

I had the N800 successor. It fit in your pocket almost as well as a smartphone, and it was powerful enough to watch movies on.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Krispy Kareem posted:

This was probably my favorite phone prior to the iPhone:

Kyoera 6035:


I worked at a dial-up ISP at the time, so it was really useful for calling and testing internet access on the included 14.4 modem. Sprint liked to call that 'data usage' even though I wasn't actually using any of their data. That was a fun bill to dispute.

I played so much DopeWars on that phone.

I had the LG equivalent of that I picked up in 2000! I can't remember the model, but it actually had a fast WAP renderer somehow.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Rectus posted:

That reminded me that Nokia released a smartphone-sized Linux tablet in 2005.



The Nokia 770 had 4.1 inch 800x480 screen, and a full Internet browser with flash, as well as digital software distribution through APT.

Of course since Nokia had their head up their rear end at that point, they had no idea what to do with it. For some reason they never put a phone or modem in it, so it was limited to WiFi/tethering, and it was missing essential features like a calendar and contacts. They never seemed to try marketing it to the mainstream either, so it was mostly used by Linux nerds.

I had the N800 successor. It fit in your pocket almost as well as a smartphone, and it was powerful enough to watch movies on.

I had a Sony Clie for a while. It was a similar type deal. It did only WiFi but it was mostly focused on IM and light web browsing, back when texting was still rare-ish and people still used IM enough for having a dedicated WiFi enabled device for it was considered I good idea.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Rectus posted:

That reminded me that Nokia released a smartphone-sized Linux tablet in 2005.



The Nokia 770 had 4.1 inch 800x480 screen, and a full Internet browser with flash, as well as digital software distribution through APT.

Of course since Nokia had their head up their rear end at that point, they had no idea what to do with it. For some reason they never put a phone or modem in it, so it was limited to WiFi/tethering, and it was missing essential features like a calendar and contacts. They never seemed to try marketing it to the mainstream either, so it was mostly used by Linux nerds.

I had the N800 successor. It fit in your pocket almost as well as a smartphone, and it was powerful enough to watch movies on.

They came so close to breaking whole smartphone market wide open, the 770 was released two years before the original iPhone. If only they'd realized what they had on their hands. With a phone/modem added (perhaps even 3G) and a proper software ecosystem, they've could have completely pre-empted the iPhone and Android.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

KozmoNaut posted:

They came so close to breaking whole smartphone market wide open, the 770 was released two years before the original iPhone. If only they'd realized what they had on their hands. With a phone/modem added (perhaps even 3G) and a proper software ecosystem, they've could have completely pre-empted the iPhone and Android.

I kept using mine even after I'd gotten a smartphone. I watched the entirety of The Wire on it. They really were fantastic devices for the time. They had a larger screen than any smartphone I've ever owned (even if the resolution doesn't hold a candle to today's densely packed pixel displays).

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


El Estrago Bonito posted:

I had a Sony Clie for a while. It was a similar type deal. It did only WiFi but it was mostly focused on IM and light web browsing, back when texting was still rare-ish and people still used IM enough for having a dedicated WiFi enabled device for it was considered I good idea.

I had a Palm device many many years ago and always wanted one of Sony's Palm Clies. Because seriously, look at this thing:

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Magnus Praeda posted:

I kept using mine even after I'd gotten a smartphone. I watched the entirety of The Wire on it. They really were fantastic devices for the time. They had a larger screen than any smartphone I've ever owned (even if the resolution doesn't hold a candle to today's densely packed pixel displays).

800x480 is still bigger than the first iPhones and android phones had. The screen of the N800 is almost exactly the size of the on on my S3. Bonus N900.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


I had one phone once, but now I have a different phone. Exciting stuff!

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Rectus posted:

800x480 is still bigger than the first iPhones and android phones had. The screen of the N800 is almost exactly the size of the on on my S3. Bonus N900.



I never owned a 1st gen iPhone since I've always had Verizon. It was definitely a better display than either my Droid or Droid 2 and it's still larger than my iPhone 5. It was definitely far less painful to use for anything other than texting or email than my earliest smartphone, a Motorola Q (Windows Mobile definitely counts as obsolete technology).

^^Edit: would you care to hear more about my personal phone usage history? It's thrilling and engaging!

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

KozmoNaut posted:

They came so close to breaking whole smartphone market wide open, the 770 was released two years before the original iPhone. If only they'd realized what they had on their hands. With a phone/modem added (perhaps even 3G) and a proper software ecosystem, they've could have completely pre-empted the iPhone and Android.

Especially considering the competition at that time consisted of stuff like this:


The HTC Wizard, released under many names and with many slightly different designs.

Windows Mobile was a terrible OS, the touchscreen relied on an easy-to-lose stylus and had a tiny onscreen keyboard, screen rotation never seemed to work properly, and the device itself was chunky as all hell, even coming with a belt pouch because there's no way you could properly keep it in your pocket. Storage was limited, but could be expanded with MiniSD cards.

At one point I carried around two of these: One as a personal phone, one as a work phone. When I got an iPhone 3G my personal one was turned into a GPS with a separate Bluetooth receiver.

Still, for the time it was decently spectacular to carry around a comparably big screen like that, especially considering I came from a Nokia 6230, and before that a Siemens S55(still one of the best featurephones ever)

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Flipperwaldt posted:

Oh man, that S35 was great. The best phone I ever had relative tot the standards of when it was current. I paid like the equivalent of $500 for it when it was new. That seems absolutely bonkers now.

The C35 was my first GSM phone on ATT (not my pic), and I had it from '03 until '05 when I bought a RAZR for stupid money. When I got the RAZR I modded the poo poo out of that thing. It was all iPhone after that.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



As the instigator of this round of phone-chat, I apologize.

Chinaphone is doing ok, but it sometimes says I have a voicemail even though I don't, so I call voicemail and don't get anything and then the notification goes away.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Athenry posted:

I had a Palm device many many years ago and always wanted one of Sony's Palm Clies. Because seriously, look at this thing:


I had this one:


You could snap the screen around to the back if you really wanted to make it all tablety. It could do some 480p video as well as handle flash fairly good for the time. I also used it a lot to read comics and books and stuff.

Horse Clocks
Dec 14, 2004


I think ~12 years ago, when I was 16-17, I had one of these:



And one of these:



And I'd use bluetooth to connect to the internet over GPRS and sit on IRC/ICQ in class. When teachers asked me what I was doing "Taking Notes". I took barely any notes, and the notes I did take were either full of spelling errors or illegible scribbles.

Seriously, what did a 16 year old need with a loving PDA? Your schedule is wake up, go to school, follow a pattern of classes that you do every drat week, go home and pretend you've got no homework.

Oh man. Still nostalgic about my N900. If the Neo900 didn't pick a lovely processor from 3 centuries ago, and make the thing bigger. I'd probably buy one.

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SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

KozmoNaut posted:

They came so close to breaking whole smartphone market wide open, the 770 was released two years before the original iPhone. If only they'd realized what they had on their hands. With a phone/modem added (perhaps even 3G) and a proper software ecosystem, they've could have completely pre-empted the iPhone and Android.
The DEC Itsy was a handheld with a touchscreen and accelerometers that ran linux and predates the iPhone by about ten years. It was designed as a PDA and not a phone (because PDAs were the hot field at the time), but it had all the parts you'd need. They actually existed but never were released to the public. The were one of the last projects of the Western Research Labs right before Digital got bought by Compaq, and Compaq moved the technology in the direction of making yet another Windows Pocket PC. The Wearable Group at Carnegie Mellon briefly ran with the design, making a version with wireless and with wearable speech recognition a major target. To give some perspective, the last time the CM project's page was updated was 2000.

There aren't a lot of photos of the actual working Itsys out there, but here's a prototype:



...and a tiny-rear end photo of a Compaq-branded example of the working design:



...and the diagram from the documentation that's a little easier to make out:



And the Itsy/Cue from Carnegie Mellon's Wearable Group:

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

SubG posted:


And the Itsy/Cue from Carnegie Mellon's Wearable Group:

What an unexpectedly adorable name for a PDA

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
It blows my mind that the black slate tablet design seems so intuitive, but everything pre-iPad looked like hot rear end with weird plastic cladding everywhere and dedicated buttons on the sides.

The Clies chat had me looking up some Sony smartphones, including one that I remember seeing in a web browser ad, but that I could never find because Sony is a jerk and doesn't release their cool phones in the US. However the web browser that was advertising itself on a Sony is pretty obsolete and failed:



Oh, you can still find it and they've got a decent embedded market - but they ditched their custom engine and it's just WebKit now. But back in the late 90's, early 2000's Opera was probably the fastest browser you could use and the first one I ever saw with tabs.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Krispy Kareem posted:

It blows my mind that the black slate tablet design seems so intuitive, but everything pre-iPad looked like hot rear end with weird plastic cladding everywhere and dedicated buttons on the sides.
A lot of that is just the limits of the technology. Apple threw a lot of development dollars into the touchscreen on the iPhone, which was a whole gently caress of a lot more responsive/sensitive than prior touchscreens. Back in around 1997 when DEC was brainstorming the Itsy you needed something like a d-pad in there for input because trying to use a virtual keyboard on the touchscreens available at the time would be a dealbreaker for most consumers.

If you look at a Palm Pilot circa the late '90s it looks pretty much the same as a Newton of the same vintage in terms of input---using a stylus and attempting handwriting recognition. You just couldn't do something like the touch input semantics of a modern smartphone or tablet. What I think is interesting about the Itsy is that their solution to that problem is actually what Apple (and everyone else) is just now getting around to---that is, voice control displacing touch as the standard control mechanism.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



SubG posted:

The DEC Itsy was a handheld with a touchscreen and accelerometers that ran linux and predates the iPhone by about ten years. It was designed as a PDA and not a phone (because PDAs were the hot field at the time), but it had all the parts you'd need. They actually existed but never were released to the public. The were one of the last projects of the Western Research Labs right before Digital got bought by Compaq, and Compaq moved the technology in the direction of making yet another Windows Pocket PC. The Wearable Group at Carnegie Mellon briefly ran with the design, making a version with wireless and with wearable speech recognition a major target. To give some perspective, the last time the CM project's page was updated was 2000.

There aren't a lot of photos of the actual working Itsys out there, but here's a prototype:



...and a tiny-rear end photo of a Compaq-branded example of the working design:



...and the diagram from the documentation that's a little easier to make out:



And the Itsy/Cue from Carnegie Mellon's Wearable Group:



I had a suspicion and wikipedia confirms it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPAQ#History

Compaq developed the Itsy into the iPAQ... I thought it seemed familiar because the Plan 9 port for the iPAQ was called "bitsy".

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
I got to college in 2004 and got myself an Ogo. If you don't remember it, you weren't alone. It was great for me; my mother was very long winded on the phone and I loathed getting trapped on calls daily with her.




It was a glorious two years not having to talk to people on the phone, because I didn't have that capability, and it was legitimately cheaper than comparable plans in my area.

It was fantastic for my needs. I used it mainly for texting but could also connect to AIM and POP3. MySpace and BBCode forums were also accessible (shittily) through a hack. You could get a flat rate plan that was way cheaper than minutes based poo poo on regular devices, though I don't really remember the rates.

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Capn Jobe
Jan 18, 2003

That's right. Here it is. But it's like you always have compared the sword, the making of the sword, with the making of the character. Cuz the stronger, the stronger it will get, right, the stronger the steel will get, with all that, and the same as with the character.
Soiled Meat
In 2008, I was finishing college and interned at a small-time tech blog. I was able to request samples from all kinds of companies, but the one device that I always wanted to try but was never able to get my hands on was....a UMPC, or Ultra-mobile PC.

These things were so drat cool; it's like a computer, but it's handheld! They even ran proper Windows XP!

Then, later that year, I started my first post-college job and we had one of these floating around in our office:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-UX280P-4-5-inch-Laptop-Processor/dp/B000IALP88

Of course, it was no longer impressive, since that was the year when smartphones really started becoming common. And then tablets followed a couple years later.

I was able to keep ours, since our company had just been bought out and no one cared. Still works, but the battery is shot so it only runs plugged-in. We would mostly use it for office pranks: putting it in the dock inside a drawer, and hooking someone's monitors and peripherals into that rather than their laptop dock. Had some laughs, but that's about all I ever got out of it.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Those UMPC's never really went anywhere, they just sorta evolved into netbooks (which totally fit here now) and now the modern Windows 8/10 tablets.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

xlevus posted:

I think ~12 years ago, when I was 16-17, I had one of these:



And one of these:



And I'd use bluetooth to connect to the internet over GPRS and sit on IRC/ICQ in class. When teachers asked me what I was doing "Taking Notes". I took barely any notes, and the notes I did take were either full of spelling errors or illegible scribbles.

Seriously, what did a 16 year old need with a loving PDA? Your schedule is wake up, go to school, follow a pattern of classes that you do every drat week, go home and pretend you've got no homework.

Oh man. Still nostalgic about my N900. If the Neo900 didn't pick a lovely processor from 3 centuries ago, and make the thing bigger. I'd probably buy one.



I had one of these and you could use it with dial-up. I had some absurd amount of minutes for the time (1500 I think) so I'd blow my minutes dialing into my college's 56k modems during class or wherever. All my friend called it my 'shoe phone' all of the software was just terrible and it was almost impossible to actually find any software for it. I don't even think it had wifi :suicide: I think I had it for about 2 years before going to one of these:



Which was the buggiest biggest pile of poo poo I had ever used, but I could get on the internet! It was so buggy that sometimes when I set an alarm it would get stuck, as in i delete the alarm and it still goes off at 7 am the next day or whatever even though it's not in the clock. The only way to get rid of that was to reset the whole system. loving windows phones from that era.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Wanna know what kind of pictures you can get with a $25 Chinese cellphone?

Feast your eyes:

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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




The "Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed" section on that page is like the Island of the Misfit Technologies.

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