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Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Would sapience be more apt?

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CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
Australia itself, like the very land itself is sentient and hates all human life and wants you dead.

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie

TMMadman posted:

Well, I was just saying that I'm not worried about toads becoming super smart and destroying humans in a croaking fury.

So you only care about the pain of others if they have the potential to cause you pain back in the future?

Yeah you're a terrible person.

Like killing cane toads is fine and all but your morality is out if whaxk.

Can I suggest.... Karl Marx????

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Do yall think animals can "love"

Like with birds that mate for life

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

CapitalistPig posted:

Australia itself, like the very land itself is sentient and hates all human life and wants you dead.

True fact.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I like to be nice to cute animals and eat the rest

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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Tremendous Taste posted:

Do yall think animals can "love"

Like with birds that mate for life
yes

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)
Communism is good.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Opopanax posted:

I like to be nice to cute animals and eat the rest

The cute ones are typically very delicious.

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie
There is no such thing as love.


Only hate.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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Meinberg posted:

Communism is good.
I thought Socialism was the good one?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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busb posted:

There is no such thing as love.


Only hate.
they are the same thing

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


CapitalistPig posted:

The cute ones are typically very delicious.

I will admit to sometimes eating cute ones

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me

busb posted:

You are not a moral being. Hth

busb as someone who just took a freshman level ethics class I am interested to know which moral system you live by/want others to live by

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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Opopanax posted:

I will admit to sometimes eating cute ones
sex joke

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

busb posted:

So you only care about the pain of others if they have the potential to cause you pain back in the future?

Yeah you're a terrible person.

Like killing cane toads is fine and all but your morality is out if whaxk.

Can I suggest.... Karl Marx????

What are you even getting at here? Do you not see a difference between someone literally torturing a toad by keeping it alive while it pulls off legs or skins it or whatever and someone who doesn't feel bad because he tried the 'stun and decapitate' method but missed the decapitation?

edit - That is to say missed the clean decapitation and then immediately finished the toad off?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I send cane toads notices to cease instead of killing them. Not their fault the buggers were born all invasive and stuff.

Magnus Gallant
Mar 9, 2010

by Lowtax
Grimey Drawer

bowmore posted:

sex joke

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zI9VSvxY3Ho

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me
in other news my glasses have been missing for two days and I feel exhausted and headachey from squinting at things for 48 hrs. I cleaned my apartment top to bottom yesterday and did not find them. This pretty much means it's time for new glasses. This is a really bad time for new glasses.

imgay
May 12, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
YOU LEFT THEM IN UR CAR

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Your glasses are in the cabinet above the plates

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

:bahgawd: send the toads back

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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i'd happily send all the toads back to america than kill them

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Tbh it's probably better if they die

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

bowmore posted:

I thought Socialism was the good one?

Close enough! One day there will be a perfect AI that will run the robocommunism of the future.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Tbh it's probably better if they die
I propose they go home and NOW you don't care if they die

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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Meinberg posted:

Close enough! One day there will be a perfect AI that will run the robocommunism of the future.
nah

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me

imgay posted:

YOU LEFT THEM IN UR CAR

I don't have a car

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Your glasses are in the cabinet above the plates

I can't even reach that high :(

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Meinberg posted:

Close enough! One day there will be a perfect AI that will run the robocommunism of the future.

too late
The CIA killed it

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie

Look Under The Rock posted:

busb as someone who just took a freshman level ethics class I am interested to know which moral system you live by/want others to live by

As someone that forgets most of his uni philosophy classes I don't really have an exact answer. I guess I am a pragmatic socialist.

People should recognise the plight of others and deal with objective issues in ways that as a freak accident of sapience, can think further ahead to the immediate goal.

For example cane toads are invasive and need to be controlled and probably eliminated because if the immense pain and death they cause our natural habitat. If you don't know they are across about the top 1/3 of Australia, maybe more.

But it is not the fault of the cane toad. They are not evil, and cannot ever be evil. They are just behaving as they are. It is our fault they are loving up everything, so it is our obligation to deal with it. As there is no moral fault for the animal, we should perform what is necessary in a way that is the least painful and harmful way to the individual toad, while still being effective.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

Ernie. posted:

haha

this thread is the worst part of high school right now

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

I want to run an Australian Fauna mafia now.

HiipFire
Sep 1, 2013

JENNY DEATH LIVES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAB410n_V4E

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie

There is nothing wrong with trying to lead a moral existence, as long as you recognise morality comes from understanding and questioning, not doctrine and illogic

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this
Taste I'm sorry if I've been lovely to you lately. When you present arguments it just always seems like they are intentionally contrarian, and that (maybe just perceived, maybe not) lack of sincerity combined with a general lack of self-deprecation just makes me not trust you on that stuff. I am truly sorry if this is an unfair assessment.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

:cheerdoge:

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

Opopanax posted:

too late
The CIA killed it

Lousy America....

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

You don't need to apologize bb ~

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



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is that because you are intentionally contrarian 98% of the time?

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George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

Tremendous Taste posted:

You don't need to apologize bb ~

I know that "I'm sorry, but"s are pretty lovely too but I actually am sorry, it's just one of those scenarios where I think about it afterwards and regret it.

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