Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
echo465
Jun 3, 2007
I like ice cream
Is anyone thinking about pursuing the CCNA Industrial certification? It was announced at Cisco Live almost 3 months ago, but I'm still not finding a lot of study materials available.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

Race Realists posted:

Many congrats. I'm studying myself (off and on, admittedly :smith:). What materials did you use?



Anyway, I'm finding subnetting getting just a little bit easier, especially with the CIDR notation


Summarizing subnets is time consuming as gently caress though

Professer Messer and Mike Meyer's Net+ book.

RightClickSaveAs posted:

How much submitting did you get on the Net+ exam? That's one of the things I need to work on. I can do it all by hand if needed, its just... yeah really time consuming.

There is very little actual subnetting. I think I had two total questions on subnetting. I spent a decent amount of time working on it and getting the binary math down, but in the end it wasn't that important. Know your command line stuff (I had a bunch of simulations), know OSI and TCP/IP Model (I concentrated too hard on OSI and ignored TCP/IP).

HOWEVER, some of that is about to change, I took the N10-005, and it retires on the 31st (That's why I rushed to take it), and I've heard rumors that there are some really off the wall things in the 006, not just IPv6.

Doug
Feb 27, 2006

This station is
non-operational.
Has anyone taken CHFI? It's on my schedule for my masters from WGU and I'm thinking about rushing it but I can find almost zero info about it.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I'm planning to write my CEH in the next couple months here. Anyone have any experience with any of the SANS certs? I'm thinking I want a couple before going for a CISSP because I hear that poo poo is rough.

Doug
Feb 27, 2006

This station is
non-operational.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

I'm planning to write my CEH in the next couple months here. Anyone have any experience with any of the SANS certs? I'm thinking I want a couple before going for a CISSP because I hear that poo poo is rough.

I've taken the GCED. If you take the corresponding SANS class for the cert, it's dead easy. The exams are open book open notes so you can take all of your SANS books into the exam along with any self written notes. I personally did some very liberal highlighting and created custom indexes and glossaries. Provided, all of my generous note taking could also be a reason for my success, but the exam was very easy I thought. A lot of the questions were verbatim from the texts or from practice tests. I think all in all I watched the videos twice, read the material independently, and created my cheat sheet material. The first practice test(after 1 pass of the videos only) I was about 10% under passing. After the other preparation I got an 80 on the practice test and almost a 90 on the real exam.

Now, if you don't take the SANS class, you're in for a world of hurt. I'm not saying you can't pass, but the exams are extremely technical and fairly in depth.

KuNova
Oct 12, 2005
I REPORT MODERATORS BECAUSE I'M FUCKING RETARDED
I have some official Cisco exam books (1 and 2) and a command book from 7 years ago. Would this still be good material to review or has networking really changed that much?

I plan to look into cbt nuggets but i wanted to check if this material i have on hand is still relevant. Thanks.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Which exam?

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Gothmog1065 posted:

Professer Messer and Mike Meyer's Net+ book.


There is very little actual subnetting. I think I had two total questions on subnetting. I spent a decent amount of time working on it and getting the binary math down, but in the end it wasn't that important. Know your command line stuff (I had a bunch of simulations), know OSI and TCP/IP Model (I concentrated too hard on OSI and ignored TCP/IP).

HOWEVER, some of that is about to change, I took the N10-005, and it retires on the 31st (That's why I rushed to take it), and I've heard rumors that there are some really off the wall things in the 006, not just IPv6.
Looks like I will be finding out, because I'm taking the 006, that's what I've been studying for since the material started coming out. I'm not in a hurry though, so I'll be sure to take my time and hit those areas. Thanks for the info!

I can't imagine they'd add a lot more subnetting, especially with IPV6 on the objectives. I'm pretty comfortable with IPV6 too (address compression is fun!)

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

ChubbyThePhat posted:

I'm planning to write my CEH in the next couple months here. Anyone have any experience with any of the SANS certs? I'm thinking I want a couple before going for a CISSP because I hear that poo poo is rough.

I'll be right behind you so keep me updated. I'm doing CCNA security now, security+ next to re-up my network+ before it expires (and frankly to take a break from the hard poo poo), then I'll be hitting up the ceh because I still won't qualify for the CISSP.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
So I'm thinking of scheduling my CCENT (100-101) exam for about 5-6 weeks out from today. I've been able to give myself about an hour of study time each day, and right now I'm mainly focusing on getting subnetting down real solid. I have a pretty good understanding of OSI, how segments/packets/frames/etc all work together, and I feel comfortable with the overall concepts of networking in a very general sense. I have almost zero practice working on IOS, though I've got GNS3 setup.

Does this sound reasonable? I can always move the date back if necessary. I've heard that the actual IOS configuration in the 100-101 exam is pretty minimal, and that it's basically a harder version of Network+ with a lot of subnetting thrown in. If that's the case I feel like I can do it.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Make sure you have a good grip on your show commands and I think you should be ok. 5-6 weeks may not be unreasonable

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Know your show commands as mentioned, know how to subnet quickly in your head, and take your time on the sim questions and pay close attention to the details. On the Cisco exams you cant go back to an old question once you submit your answer.

I have to start brushing up myself to retake the new CCNA exam as mine is about to expire and I havent been studying for any other new Cisco certs.

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

So I'm thinking of scheduling my CCENT (100-101) exam for about 5-6 weeks out from today. I've been able to give myself about an hour of study time each day, and right now I'm mainly focusing on getting subnetting down real solid. I have a pretty good understanding of OSI, how segments/packets/frames/etc all work together, and I feel comfortable with the overall concepts of networking in a very general sense. I have almost zero practice working on IOS, though I've got GNS3 setup.

Does this sound reasonable? I can always move the date back if necessary. I've heard that the actual IOS configuration in the 100-101 exam is pretty minimal, and that it's basically a harder version of Network+ with a lot of subnetting thrown in. If that's the case I feel like I can do it.
I took 100-101 a few weeks ago. There wasn't a whole lot in terms of OSI and data encapsulation, but a fair amount of router sims. I'd spend some more time on GNS3 getting hands-on IOS experience

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Again echoing to know your show commands. Being able to know what you're looking for and how to parse what the router spits out at you will make it indescribably easier. Spending some time with GNS3 will be your best bet here if you are comfortable with the theory already. Also you will literally never not use show commands for debugs. That poo poo will stay with you for the rest of your life as useful information.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
Thanks for all the advice. I might push it out a little further, bearing all this in mind.

Did any of you guys who just labbed it with GNS3 feel any sort of disadvantage in terms of switch configuration? Or can you get everything you need just using a 3725 image with the NM-16ESW module?

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Unfortunately I did all of my Cisco practice either in PacketTracer or on a live rack, so I can't speak too much to GNS3. I do know that I have a couple friends that use it, love it, and have never complained they couldn't get something done in it. Not sure if you can download modules for specific hardware or what; best to differ to somebody with more experience with the software.

(I realize I voluntarily submitted this post)

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
If you can get packet tracer, use it instead for switch stuff I'd say. I really like the Pearson Vue NetSim because of how structured and guided it is.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Packet tracer was plenty.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
100 questions for the N10-006.

Man gently caress you comptia.

Maybe i should go with the CCENT? It's under a hundred loving questions, will ensure my chances of getting an entry level help desk position (and a networking position when i get the actual experience to go with it:v:)

id be killing alot of birds with one stone.

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Aug 18, 2015

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Race Realists posted:

100 questions for the N10-006.

Man gently caress you comptia.

Maybe i should go with the CCENT? It's under a hundred loving questions, will ensure my chances of getting an entry level help desk position (and a networking position when i get the actual experience to go with it:v:)

id be killing alot of birds with one stone.

Honestly, just an A+ is enough for an entry level help desk position if you don't have any prior experience to put on your resume.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
The A+ 800 series is expiring soon

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Race Realists posted:

100 questions for the N10-006.
You sure? Straight from their website "Maximum of 90 questions": http://certification.comptia.org/getCertified/certifications/network.aspx

Also when is the A+ expiring, I couldn't find any info. I have it already but I'm just curious to see if they stay with their tradition of just barely missing the newest Windows OS release.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Bigass Moth posted:

Packet tracer was plenty.

It's also better for CCENT/CCNA stuff because you want the switch CLI simulation.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

RightClickSaveAs posted:

You sure? Straight from their website "Maximum of 90 questions": http://certification.comptia.org/getCertified/certifications/network.aspx

Also when is the A+ expiring, I couldn't find any info. I have it already but I'm just curious to see if they stay with their tradition of just barely missing the newest Windows OS release.

Books for the 900 series get published as soon as November

As for the last question, some of the sites I guess, are counting the 10 non-credit questions?

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Aug 19, 2015

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Alain Post posted:

It's also better for CCENT/CCNA stuff because you want the switch CLI simulation.

There were a couple downsides with FHRP stuff not being implemented and one other thing I feel like was missing but I can't recall what it was exactly

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

crunk dork posted:

There were a couple downsides with FHRP stuff not being implemented and one other thing I feel like was missing but I can't recall what it was exactly

Netmon, most functions of SNMP, acl logging but that's more for understanding as your not asked on it for R&S.

Does CCP work through gns3? CCNA security relies on it heavily and the packet tracer isn't compatible at all

gooby pls
May 18, 2012



Judge Schnoopy posted:

Netmon, most functions of SNMP, acl logging but that's more for understanding as your not asked on it for R&S.

Does CCP work through gns3? CCNA security relies on it heavily and the packet tracer isn't compatible at all

Yeah, I think I wound up importing a VirtualBox Win 7 VM with CCP installed into the GNS3 topology. Worked fine for my CCNA Sec. Also, gently caress CCP.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Yeah I don't understand Cisco's obsession with CCP when every other gui they make is better. And for that matter, the studies go from "if you understand the command line procedures you can understand any gui" to "command line is meh check out this cool program from 1999 that teaches you nothing!"

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

Race Realists posted:

100 questions for the N10-006.

Man gently caress you comptia.

Maybe i should go with the CCENT? It's under a hundred loving questions, will ensure my chances of getting an entry level help desk position (and a networking position when i get the actual experience to go with it:v:)

id be killing alot of birds with one stone.

The CCENT is more respectable than the Net+(kinda), and its 50% of the CCNA. Downsides: I've done both, the CCENT is harder. CompTIA wants memorization, Cisco wants understanding. And the tests reflect that.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
just from taking the CCNA Security, I think you can rear end yourself through any of the GUI questions without any practice if you've ever used a GUI before and know enough about the task to guess what category it's under.

MrBigglesworth
Mar 26, 2005

Lover of Fuzzy Meatloaf

Mrit posted:

The CCENT is more respectable than the Net+(kinda), and its 50% of the CCNA. Downsides: I've done both, the CCENT is harder. CompTIA wants memorization, Cisco wants understanding. And the tests reflect that.

The deal here though is that Cisco Tests are a 1000 times better than Microsoft tests.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Mrit posted:

The CCENT is more respectable than the Net+(kinda), and its 50% of the CCNA. Downsides: I've done both, the CCENT is harder. CompTIA wants memorization, Cisco wants understanding. And the tests reflect that.

Which... is why the CCENT is more respected.

Zeratanis
Jun 16, 2009

That's kind of a weird thought isn't it?
Speaking of Network+. Passed it! :toot: Sure it isn't CCENT but it still feels nice to pass an exam like that.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Congrats! Keep it up!

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
All Cisco tests I've taken have been heavy on memorization especially when it comes to product knowledge.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

Zeratanis posted:

Speaking of Network+. Passed it! :toot: Sure it isn't CCENT but it still feels nice to pass an exam like that.

Congrats N+ buddy. I wanna do CCENT next, but it's gonna be rough I think for me, I have jack poo poo for experience.

Speaking of, is there any good training material that isn't too terribly expensive?

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Zeratanis posted:

Speaking of Network+. Passed it! :toot: Sure it isn't CCENT but it still feels nice to pass an exam like that.

006 or 005?

Eitherway congrats

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Race Realists posted:

Books for the 900 series get published as soon as November

As for the last question, some of the sites I guess, are counting the 10 non-credit questions?
Oh yeah it is about that time for the next series isn't it? Looks like they may have missed Windows 10, in keeping with their tradition (depending on how locked in the objectives are at this point).

But if the study materials aren't coming out until November, that means the 900 series is still a good few months off, and you'll be able to take the 801 and 802 for a while yet. Unless you need like 6 months to study you'll be fine.

Zeratanis
Jun 16, 2009

That's kind of a weird thought isn't it?

Race Realists posted:

006 or 005?

Eitherway congrats

005. My WGU work started on 005 before they announced the end of life for it so I stuck with it rather than jump to the new stuff. Also, got 813/900 which I'm told is a good score. :woop:

Also thanks all~ I'm a nervous test taker so I'm always happy to pass something.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Ahdinko
Oct 27, 2007

WHAT A LOVELY DAY

Bigass Moth posted:

All Cisco tests I've taken have been heavy on memorization especially when it comes to product knowledge.

What ones are you taking that you see this? The only ones I've seen it on are account manager/technical sales exams which is arguably an actual requirement, and i've had it on the bullshit exams you have to take to fulfill some partner specialisations but stuff like my CCNP had nothing of the sort

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply