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Uthor posted:Look where it got you: posting about comic books on a website called Something Awful. Fredric Wertham was right! I'd wear the poo poo out of a "Wertham was right" shirt.
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isn't that also a line in Flex Mentallo?
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Aug 18, 2015 00:51
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CapnAndy posted:Adults in the 1950s were kids before comic books existed, so they did not have a habit to carry forward into adulthood, and very few adults look at the hot new trend among 10 year olds and go "yeah, I want to buy into that poo poo". Comic books got started in the mid-thirties. A kid who was ten when Action Comics #1 came out would be twenty right about the time the first superhero boom fizzled and crime/horror comics started coming into vogue. To say nothing of servicemen who read comics during the war and after because they got them in care packages. Adult comic book readers were a real thing in the early '50s. They were part of the reason companies like EC started doing material like they did. (Of course, kids read the EC books, too, because the truth is people of every age like a cheap, gory thrill.)
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Aug 18, 2015 03:59
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Was there any crossover with those Men's Adventure magazines (aside from homoeroticism)? Adults were supposed to be the audience for those, right?
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Aug 18, 2015 04:47
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I don't know much about those, but yeah, there were probably some people reading both. There certainly were in the '70s.
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Aug 18, 2015 13:15
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I have always been curious why EC never used the "magazine" loophole with the rest of their line like they did with Mad. Also, how did DC end up with Mad but not the rest of EC?
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Aug 18, 2015 13:45
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I would loving love digital EC collections on Comixology. Crime Does Not Pay is there, but apart from covers with dudes pushing ladies faces on lit stove tops, the previews don't look too nasty https://www.comixology.com/Crime-Do...0ZWRFZGl0aW9ucw
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Aug 18, 2015 14:00
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Endless Mike posted:I have always been curious why EC never used the "magazine" loophole with the rest of their line like they did with Mad. Mad still made money, afaik, so they cancelled everything but mad and mad is all that was left when they got bought by the people who eventually bought DC which means that DC now sorta owns Mad. I think that's the rough outline.
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Aug 18, 2015 14:07
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Teenage Fansub posted:I would loving love digital EC collections on Comixology. there are some Fantagraphics-published collections on there that are grouped by artist. i got the Graham Ingels one a while back when they were on sale, it gets pretty gruesome.
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Aug 18, 2015 14:59
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LordPants posted:Mad still made money, afaik, so they cancelled everything but mad and mad is all that was left when they got bought by the people who eventually bought DC which means that DC now sorta owns Mad. I guess I just find it strange that various other companies have published EC reprints, but not DC or any other Time Warner company.
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Aug 18, 2015 15:30
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Endless Mike posted:I have always been curious why EC never used the "magazine" loophole with the rest of their line like they did with Mad. According to the article I'm linking below, the "magazine" loophole was a myth and Mad was called a magazine as a means of keeping Kurtzman on the book when he'd been offered a job working for Pageant. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/04/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-45/
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Aug 18, 2015 16:10
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Endless Mike posted:I have always been curious why EC never used the "magazine" loophole with the rest of their line like they did with Mad. I always figured that there was no loophole that would make any store carry their horror books. Basically the stigma against the horror books was pretty toxic at that point.
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Aug 18, 2015 16:26
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Claytor posted:According to the article I'm linking below, the "magazine" loophole was a myth and Mad was called a magazine as a means of keeping Kurtzman on the book when he'd been offered a job working for Pageant. Not exactly. It just says that's not why they made it a magazine. The loophole did exist, and Marvel pretty famously used it for stuff like Conan later on.
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Gaz-L posted:Not exactly. It just says that's not why they made it a magazine. The loophole did exist, and Marvel pretty famously used it for stuff like Conan later on. Not to mention their own B&W horror comics.
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Gaz-L posted:Not exactly. It just says that's not why they made it a magazine. The loophole did exist, and Marvel pretty famously used it for stuff like Conan later on. I wish I wrote words better.
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Aug 18, 2015 18:49
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Who typically adds the onomatopoeia to a comic page?
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Aug 19, 2015 17:22
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Kevin Smith. (I don't know.)
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Aug 19, 2015 17:23
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CzarChasm posted:Who typically adds the onomatopoeia to a comic page? Sometimes artists draw the SFX directly, otherwise it's the letterer.
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Aug 19, 2015 17:27
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I believe it can be either the penciller or the letterer. But you can go ask Clayton Cowles because he's doing an A/T thread right now!
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Aug 19, 2015 17:27
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It's probably like 9:1 letterer:penciler split overall. It's really easy to tell who is doing a specific one because penciler ones will be integrated into the artwork while lettered ones will be over it.
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Aug 19, 2015 17:37
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This came to mind. It's a speech bubble, not a sound effect, but I'm still gonna post it. 
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Aug 20, 2015 00:51
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Going back a bunch of pages...Jack Gladney posted:What's the latest on Superpro? Robert Kirkman's Superhero Team-Up had an issue featuring a then-new Stilt Man. He mentioned that he was new in the game, but already beat up some clown named Superpro a few days earlier. So there you go. Superpro is sub-Stilt Man. Also, Chris Sims and Chad Bowers did a comic a year or so ago called Down Set Fight, which was originally a failed pitch to bring back Superpro. It's about a disgraced football player who is constantly attacked by guys in sports mascot costumes and tries to get to the bottom of it.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:14
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So I am a Marvel Registered Zombie and No-Prize No-minee (never "won" one though). Unfortunately, our show is doing our DC lightning rounds, and other than bat-villians, DC's rogues gallery is pretty slim pickings. Can you guys help me out with a funny thing to say or a story about non-Bats, Non-Luthor guys from this list. It seems like every DC villain is just "one of the most powerful sorcerers/conquerors in the universe" with little deviation. DC sucks because of this by the way.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:31
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Everblight posted:So I am a Marvel Registered Zombie and No-Prize No-minee (never "won" one though). Unfortunately, our show is doing our DC lightning rounds, and other than bat-villians, DC's rogues gallery is pretty slim pickings. Can you guys help me out with a funny thing to say or a story about non-Bats, Non-Luthor guys from this list. It seems like every DC villain is just "one of the most powerful sorcerers/conquerors in the universe" with little deviation. The Flash Rogues
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Aug 20, 2015 20:35
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bobkatt013 posted:The Flash Rogues What are some compelling, interesting stories, anectdotes or jokes about Mirror Master, Captain loving Cold and literal "Reverse Flash"?
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Aug 20, 2015 20:39
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Everblight posted:What are some compelling, interesting stories, anectdotes or jokes about Mirror Master, Captain loving Cold and literal "Reverse Flash"? ... There's quite a few? The Rogues actually were established as an interesting set of villains who united and tried very carefully to balance their crimes with avoiding attracting too much attention and had a semi-friendly semi-antagonistic relationship with the Flash. They are actually some incredibly dynamic characters when used well. Reverse Flash has a lot of interesting stories depending on the version you're talking about since he plays off The Flash. (The Return of Barry Allen is actually a great Reverse Flash story for example.) Someone mentioning a good set of villains and you go "they have silly names! They must suck" kind makes you look like an rear end in a top hat by the way. Also beyond that: Captain Marvel has a fantastic set of villains. They're campier than Superman (though I'd argue not Batman) but Dr. Sivana, Black Adam, Mr. Mind and various others have all been used in extremely good stories. Also the Suicide Squad, which is primarily made up of villains, has done a great job defining characters. Captain Boomerang (another Flash villain) for example. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 20:42
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Everblight posted:What are some compelling, interesting stories, anectdotes or jokes about Mirror Master, Captain loving Cold and literal "Reverse Flash"? Zoom - Flash 197-200 The Rogues - Final Crisis: Rogues’ Revenge Mirror Master - Animal Man Captain Cold - Flash 182 Also read Return of Barry Allen - Flash 74-79 bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 20:43
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yeah the Flash definitely has one of the best rogues galleries in comics, probably #3 behind Batman and Spider-Man. silver age and modern age, both rule. Rogue War is another awesome story that hasn't been mentioned.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:47
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Yeah the flash actually has the most compelling villains in all comics by a wide margin. Not the best naming conventions nor best designs tho.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:48
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ImpAtom posted:Someone mentioning a good set of villains and you go "they have silly names! They must suck" kind makes you look like an rear end in a top hat by the way. ImpAtom posted:
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Aug 20, 2015 20:49
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Everblight posted:I mean, all villains have dopey names, this isn't exclusive to DC. But I have literally no experience with District Comics stories other than the Batman tv shows (animated and Adam West) so I can't exactly talk with authority about them. Hoping to get some interesting tidbits without having to dig up comic torrents for a show I have to record like four hours from now do you have Netflix/Amazon Prime? if so, look up the Justice League Unlimited episode "Flash and Substance." it'll give you a great 25 minute crash course in why the Flash's villains are dope.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:do you have Netflix/Amazon Prime? if so, look up the Justice League Unlimited episode "Flash and Substance." it'll give you a great 25 minute crash course in why the Flash's villains are dope. Will do!
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Aug 20, 2015 20:52
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Also instead of torrenting them you could buy the couple issues they listed off of comixology.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:54
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one of my favorite things about the Flash's rogues is that they're by and large less interested in killing him and more interested in just delaying him long enough that they can get away with whatever they're stealing, because killing him is way more trouble than it's worth. also they're unionized, which is just dope.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:56
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I always like when street level villains don't actually want the heroes dead because the villains know they'll need them on days when the sun decides to explode or something.
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Starsnostars posted:I always like when street level villains don't actually want the heroes dead because the villains know they'll need them on days when the sun decides to explode or something. This is why I love the Shocker. He's beaten Spidey many times, but just wants to leave the scene with his comical bags with "$$$" on the side of them, no need to kill a dude who's just doing his job, just like Shocker.
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Aug 20, 2015 21:18
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I honestly think villains are more interesting when they have motivations beyond "I wanna murder that guy."
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Starsnostars posted:I always like when street level villains don't actually want the heroes dead because the villains know they'll need them on days when the sun decides to explode or something. Also, it's not wise to get superheroes and law enforcement that level of pissed. Poor, poor Inertia...well, not really, because gently caress Inertia, but you know. Villians have an easier time when they stick to leaving the hero unconsious. Bring murder into it, much less the murder of the friend of other superheroes, and you're going down hard.
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That's why Deadshot and Captain Cold are two of my all-time favorite villains (and characters in general). They're professionals with codes of honor. They don't want to take over the world or murder everyone in it. They're working stiffs who are good at what they do, with grudging respect for the heroes they are often forced into conflict with. The Shade is another one of my favorite characters, even though he's much more of an antihero now than a villain. He's a murderous immortal rogue, but also a romantic, cultured man of the world who has fought on the side of the angels multiple times, from World War II to the present day. And whenever he returns to his beloved Opal City, he refuses to commit crimes there, and he'll fight like hell to defend it against threats. He was possessed by his arch-enemy, a man called Culp, when he committed some of his most unspeakable acts.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:The Shade I really need to read Starman again. I really liked that issue set way in the future where he was telling kids about the history of Starman through time (I'm a sucker for those types of stories). Was that a DC One Million tie-in? Has The Shade appeared anywhere else? He's so tied to the city in my mind.
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