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Phobophilia posted:Yang is only slightly bullshit. The most egregious example was him somehow reading Reinhardt's mind in S1 and seeing through his strategic scheme. Other than that, he was pretty grounded: Yang's talents lay in attracting lots of other very talented people to do his dirty work. Yang needed Dusty and Alex and Murai and Freddy and Merk. Other than that, he couldn't do much but plot. Yang is good at strategy, really good at tactics, but can't fight worth a drat in person. You shut your mouth, Daryun is the sexiest and the coolest.  I realized this episode that it's rather pointless to compare LoGH to Arslan. Their approaches to storytelling are just too different. I had a conversation with my boyfriend a while back where I argued that LoGH isn't a space opera so much as a political/philosophical drama that takes place in the far future. You could take the core concepts and characters and set them in a different era, and preserve the soul of the story. Arguably, that's one of the points of the show--in every time, in every place, the deeds of man remain the same. Arslan Senki, on the other hand, is very grounded in the fantasy/adventure genre it comes from. A lot of the characters and set pieces are typical of the genre. The loyal, heroic knight? Check. Dispossessed prince? Check. Awesome duels? Check. Evil, uncomplicated villains? Check. You could open all sorts of fantasy books and find the same archetypes. I haven't read the books, so I don't know if this applies to them, too. For all that, I still think Arslan Senki is still a good, fun show. I like the characters, the plot interests me, and I'm impressed with the level of research that has gone into the story. But at the end of the day it's a quality fantasy-adventure. It's not as good as LoGH, but hey, nothing is.
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Viola the Mad posted:You shut your mouth, Daryun is the sexiest and the coolest. Arslan Senki is kinda like Shakespeare imho. I tried to get a previous roommate to watch LoGH, he's a Babylon 5 fan so I figured he'd like it. Sadly not, he didn't like the lack of build up to the opening battle. Hence previous roommate. 
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Raenir Salazar posted:Arslan Senki is kinda like Shakespeare imho. You made the right choice.
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Aug 7, 2015 03:44
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Arslan is so transparently into Daryun. It's cute.
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well yeah wouldn't you be. I think this is the first time we've seen Arslan really be all "MOTHERFUCKER I'LL KILL YOU" Which is impressive considering the poo poo he's been through so far.
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paragon1 posted:well yeah wouldn't you be. Yeah I dug that a lot. He got all mega intense for a second.
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I agree with this but I think the main difference between the shows is that LOGH asks a question while Arslan just presents an answer. In LOGH we have people on both sides of the argument who are capable of showing the benefits and flaws of each system of government but in Arslan, he and Narsus just bullshit their way through any problem caused by Arslan naivety. I have no idea how the story is going to go but it would be more comparable to LOGH if we see Arslan's ideas backfire or if we have an alternative viewpoint of a kingdom ruled by an authoritative despot but where its citizens, including the slaves, have peace and a higher standard of living than a 'free Pars'.
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Aug 9, 2015 15:08
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king retardja and his general cuntheavy
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Aug 9, 2015 15:26
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Well granted they did get the Daryun of Sindhura so it's not a complete loss. 
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Actually taking Rajendra back to Pars would have been a pretty good move. I mean, I can see why Arslan wouldn't go for it, but it'd work great at keeping foreign influence to a minimum for a few years.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Actually taking Rajendra back to Pars would have been a pretty good move. I mean, I can see why Arslan wouldn't go for it, but it'd work great at keeping foreign influence to a minimum for a few years. At the very least it made sure a possible front was delayed and ensures a direction of safe retreat. Europa Universalis map of the region when?
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Well I guess looked at it as a limited campaign to secure the eastern front for 3 years, this arc worked out okay. The show finally acknowledged the silliness of entrusting yourself to someone who loving invaded you a few episodes ago. And because of Narsus' magic, I don't think Pars lost many soldiers, and all of Kishward's troops can be diverted west towards the centre. I'm glad we're getting more Hermes. I like evil Reinhardt, he's genuinely scary and competent, whereas Rajendra was never more than a joke. Hermes is a combination of Daryun + Narsus + mirror universe Arslan, which means he can cover all of team Arslan's bases. My favourite thing about Hermes is how incredibly worked up he gets when he starts fighting, he starts ravening and chewing up the scenery twice as hard as Daryun.
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Kegslayer posted:I agree with this but I think the main difference between the shows is that LOGH asks a question while Arslan just presents an answer. And that's why LoGH is a better story. Arslan Senki isn't interested in asking questions, it's interested in  RAD ADVENTURE. Maybe after Arslan gets a chance to govern we'll see a change, but for now we're watching the  On that note, this episode was pretty disappointing; I signed up for awesome battles and Arslan Senki consigned them all to exposition. And for all the excuses I make for the show, I'm getting sick of Narsus being the answer to everything. It's past time for Arslan to step up and start contributing substance beyond adorable smiles. RAD ADVENTURE does not excuse a lack of character development or a single godlike character. Overall I enjoyed this arc, but Arlsan best get his act together in the next one
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The show seems very Rot3K heavy in influence. Like, being a good King is just as much about surrounding yourself with loyal and wise advisers as it is being kind or just or whatever. So Arslan himself is there to act as this magnet in which he attracts followers, sort of like a Stark. Speaking of which, very disappointed in Rajendra, he who passes the sentence should swing the sword.  And he lied to his father on his death bad. 
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Viola the Mad posted:And that's why LoGH is a better story. Arslan Senki isn't interested in asking questions, it's interested in Yeah, Arslan is a Nice Person, but he doesn't have the same competence and magnetism as Yang. Yang might not be able to swing an axe or shoot a laser pistol to save his life, but he could lead fleets of ships and analyse political situations. All Arslan has going for him is potential. Perhaps a better comparison for Arslan is Julian, but Julian could manage a household at Arslan's age. And a few years later, Julian was piloting fighters and commanding battleships and dropkicking people in the face and boarding ships whilst clad in powered armour.
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i would hope Arslan gains some combat prowess, considering all his training. just enough so he's not the damsel every time. anyway, Kishward was confirmed for Arslan Musou!
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You guys seem dead set on comparing a philosophical alt-future history to what is basically a Persian epic with liberal amounts of Rot3K mixed in. It's like whining the Grendel in Beowulf didn't get enough screen time to show that eating people might not be a bad thing. Don't get me wrong though, Arslan needs to step up because him getting saved every episodes is wearing thin.
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Guyver posted:You guys seem dead set on comparing a philosophical alt-future history to what is basically a Persian epic with liberal amounts of Rot3K mixed in. It's like whining the Grendel in Beowulf didn't get enough screen time to show that eating people might not be a bad thing. We're just jonesing for something to fill that LOGH hole you get once you finished that series. 
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Kegslayer posted:We're just jonesing for something to fill that LOGH hole you get once you finished that series. There's always Tytania 
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Aug 11, 2015 03:46
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Better than Legend of the Four Dragon Kings, ugh.
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I understand that people are comparing Rot3K to this show because of Narsus and Daryun, but after that nothing even is remotely comparable to Rot3K. This show has none of the vast rich expansive character backstories or the intriguing and ever changing plot and schemes that Rot3K has. Although Rot3K's Zhugeliang and Narsus both has bullshit intuition, but Zhugeliang had reasonable explanation to his foresight which Narsus is just bullshit. Lu Bu was strong and capable fighter, but was fairly dimwit and couple men and a rope was enough to put him down. Can you imagine Daryun going down in anything except maybe a tactical nuclear strike?
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I'm still amazed at just how backstabby the dude ended up being. There's like no Shakespearian motivation behind it, no grudge, he's like a kid throwing rocks at the girl he likes.
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Phobophilia posted:Well I guess looked at it as a limited campaign to secure the eastern front for 3 years, this arc worked out okay. The show finally acknowledged the silliness of entrusting yourself to someone who loving invaded you a few episodes ago. And because of Narsus' magic, I don't think Pars lost many soldiers, and all of Kishward's troops can be diverted west towards the centre. Yeah, Post Mortem I think the biggest problem with the whole Sinduhara Sidequest is that the villains were all total lightweights so it was just 6 episodes of zero tension Narsus owning everybody in increasingly ridiculous ways. Also, aside from being a token foreign dude I'm not seeing what new guy brings to the party but oh well he can stab faceless NPCs as well as anyone I guess. Hermes is at least an important enough dude to maybe cause a setback once in a while so hopefully it'll start to pick up next week.
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i enjoyed the Sindhuran stuff but it does kinda suck to have the only tangible gain be Jaswant, who explicitly says he's leaving them in a few years
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i did not like this episode. i don't care about silver mask & friends at all and there was a really long scene so darkly lit you couldn't see poo poo
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Davincie posted:i did not like this episode. i don't care about silver mask & friends at all and there was a really long scene so darkly lit you couldn't see poo poo What, it's nice to know that there's multiple sides to this.
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A choice between a life of wine and woman or getting your rear end killed in a civil war is a pretty easy decision to make.
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Hermes loving owns, every time talks, there's an angry growl behind every word, like he can barely repress himself from loving killing everyone around him. Arslan needs a real foil that can oppose him. And in team Hermes, Sam and Kubard have that glowering sexual charisma coming off them in spades, and that is lacking in the relatively sterile Narsus and Daryun.
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Davincie posted:i did not like this episode. i don't care about silver mask & friends at all and there was a really long scene so darkly lit you couldn't see poo poo I didn't care much for it as well although Andragoras laughing at Sam's naivety was a pretty good scene if poorly animated. I'm not expecting LOGH but I wish they made Hermes and his men much more likable or at least showed citizens enjoying life under his rule. Kubard's 'gently caress you guys I'm out' was great though and I hope he comes back.
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Kegslayer posted:I didn't care much for it as well although Andragoras laughing at Sam's naivety was a pretty good scene if poorly animated. Hermes basically represents an alternate villainous faction, but it probably would help to see his recruitment of Parsians as basically being one of following someone like them over a Lusitanian.
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Kegslayer posted:I didn't care much for it as well although Andragoras laughing at Sam's naivety was a pretty good scene if poorly animated. That's part of the whole reason that Arslan has a claim to legitimacy, other than the moral upside of abolishing slavery. When/if Hermes is made king, he'll have been installed by an invading foreign force that went on a big old cultural purge.
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