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Blue Footed Booby posted:Is there any reason to make the hamburger immovable, though? I could see making it impossible to remove so that you can't remove it, though that's a weak argument given that you can right click anywhere on the navigation bar and select customize; surely anyone who couldn't figure that out wouldn't customize in the first place. I literally can't think of a single reason to not let users move it at all. Mozilla is really bad at UX and UI design. Just look at Firefox for Android's bafflingly different behavior between phone and tablet. Just placing the button for tabs on the other side of the bar is enough to completely mess up the workflow.
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tonberrytoby posted:They say "Edge of the screen" they say nothing about the edge of the browser window. Well, yes. If you're not using your browser in full screen then you're not going to get the advantages of the edge of the screen. That should be obvious. I see most desktop browsers being used in full screen in random screenshots on forums so I don't have any reason to believe it's rare or even less common than windowed. Elements near the edge of the screen do benefit from being able to bounce back quickly. My tabs do touch the edge of the screen, though.
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Desuwa posted:Elements near the edge of the screen do benefit from being able to bounce back quickly. My tabs do touch the edge of the screen, though.
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tonberrytoby posted:Is that still true? Newer versions of Windows open some strange menus when you try to bounce back from the wrong edge, making things slower then if there was no temptation to bounce. Windows 10 removes that behavior, unless you specifically re-enable it.
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I feel like the fullscreen thing is really dependent on screen resolution (effective resolution, not real resolution for 4k or retina or w/e). On my screen (1920x1080 on 22", which seems reasonable for desktop), when I fullscreen the browser and select some text on SA, I get numbers like 187 or 184 characters per line. Non-fullscreen, the numbers are more like 114 or 108. There aren't many studies on this, the ones I have found suggested that 95 cpl is actually better than the traditional 75, but don't go farther than that (and I'm not sure why, 95 cpl is clearly reasonable--in fact, 95 cpl is called "extreme" in the study, which seems goofy, and looking at some text with around 90 cpl it looks too narrow). This is apparently Shaikh, A.D. (2005),. The effects of line length on reading online news, which I can't find a working pdf of. There's this which looks like a student paper, suggesting 100 cpl is less efficient than 85, but that 85 is better than 55 or 70. I'd be really interested in seeing a proper study about this that targeted, like, 200+ cpl as the actually extreme upper bound.
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On my 1920x1080 laptop, I mostly keep Firefox to about ~1245 across simply so that i can have stuff like chat windows or whatever on the side.
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zachol posted:I feel like the fullscreen thing is really dependent on screen resolution (effective resolution, not real resolution for 4k or retina or w/e). If you're going to talk about "effective resolution" maybe you should account for the fact that most websites outside of this forum and Wikipedia already set a narrow width for their content which significantly reduces the difference between full-screen and half-screen. It's not like ideal character width is some secret kept hidden from web designers. Guerrand fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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I'm hoping there's still a way for Tab Mix Plus to still work. I could probably live with tabs on the top edge of the window rather than the bottom edge, but not having multi-row tabs would suck.
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Real talk, how the gently caress do I get this blue poo poo to stop.  My cookies that I don't have whitelisted delete after I close my browser so this blue bar from hell keeps popping up, UBlocks element picker sucks donkey, so I can't figure out how to remove this bar without side effects.
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Im_Special posted:Real talk, how the gently caress do I get this blue poo poo to stop. You stop force deleting that cookie, simple. You could also try to select the element that is in uBlock/AdBlock Plus and create a filter for it, I guess, but there's no guarantee google won't slightly change its name in the future. which would unblock it.
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Im_Special posted:Real talk, how the gently caress do I get this blue poo poo to stop. Add a Stylish file for google.ca that sets that bar's ID/class to {display: none!important;} Use the Inspector to find a suitable identifier (right click the bar, hit Q)
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Hargrimm posted:Use the Inspector to find a suitable identifier (right click the bar, hit Q) 
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Grim Up North posted:Fullscreen (F11) is probably only for weirdos and people doing presentations/kiosks, but I'm pretty sure that the majority of Windows users browse with a maximized browser window and almost no MacOS users do so. I don't have up-to-date statistics, though. MacOS always encouraged non-maximized windows with it's top menu bar optimized for Fitt's Law though. For some reason I just don't like running apps in full screen, and I've no idea why. It's not like I have a dynamic background that I have to keep an eye on. Even before I had dual monitors I almost never had stuff maximised. It's weird.
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I run precious few applications maximized but the browser is one of them. I actually run it maximized on two monitors with my second one in a 10x16 orientation that's better for reading manga. Note that I mean maximized and not full screen; full screen is only for media and games.
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I run Firefox windowed, full height, but only 1280 wide. Mostly so I can tell if something I've posted is breaking tables here on the forums, but also because so many other sites don't use the full width of the window any more.
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I remember reading about some study/studies on the effect of document width on reading speeds, which found the optional width is well below the width of a widescreen monitor. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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They're highly suspect, because the "ideal width" seems to hop around a lot and these studies get redone all the time. You can go back to the 90s and find studies that said text areas should never be wider than what fits on a 700 pixel area at 12 point font, for instance. More than anything else, it seems like ideals vary heavily from person to person and group to group, and that display technology can matter. For instance different line lengths are more comfortable on CRT Vs lovely lcd Vs nice lcd Vs eInk. And so on.
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Firefox is now putting "suggested pages" into that page that appears when you open a new tab and all your frequent links are shown. How do i turn that off?
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A Yolo Wizard posted:Firefox is now putting "suggested pages" into that page that appears when you open a new tab and all your frequent links are shown. How do i turn that off? 
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I find it incredibly annoying to run anything not maximized. I wonder how much of that breakdown is still grew up on Mac vs. grew up on Windows?A Yolo Wizard posted:Firefox is now putting "suggested pages" into that page that appears when you open a new tab and all your frequent links are shown. How do i turn that off? Edit: Oh hey they finally put an actual option for it back in.
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I like Australis. And I vote
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The only thing I dislike about Australis is the lack of a status bar, so I installed an addon for that. Otherwise I'm fine with it. I guess I'm not really a ~power user~ or anything though.
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Implied Consent posted:I like things how I like them. 
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I'll join the fugly multirow tab army when they inevitably kill tab groups, since I'm pretty sure I'm the only user of it.
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The Milkman posted:I'll join the fugly multirow tab army when they inevitably kill tab groups, since I'm pretty sure I'm the only user of it. I use tab groups but I adored Opera's tab stacking back when I only had ~100 tabs.
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Implied Consent posted:I like things how I like them. Same: 
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I'm just a stubborn old gently caress who fears change:
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 Not pictured: the other ~50 odd tabs in this tab group, the other ~250 tabs in other groups in this window, or the ~100 tabs of manga I'm totally going to read soon in the other window on the portrait oriented monitor. The four tabs on the left are pinned. I have tabs I haven't looked at since before I migrated from Opera 12. Desuwa fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Bieeardo posted:I'm just a stubborn old gently caress who fears change: Aero Glass and a combined back button/URL bar, huh? Some grognard you are! 
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My affair with UI transparency is one of my deepest shames. 
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Am I the only person who puts their tabs on the actual bottom?
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Silver95280 posted:Am I the only person who puts their tabs on the actual bottom?  The only one Ive ever seen.
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Some reassurance for the reactionaries https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebExtensions/FAQ https://hackademix.net/2015/08/22/webextensions-api-noscript/
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 Are any of these extensions not possible with the new extension model or whatever it's called?
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Are any of these extensions not possible with the new extension model or whatever it's called?
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Tabs belong to the side so I can always keep at least 50 tabs open  Tree Style Tab is pretty much the only (but huge) reason I'm sticking with Firefox.
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Pollyzoid posted:Tabs belong to the side so I can always keep at least 50 tabs open Yep. The closest equivalent in Chrome has them in a separate window and fucks with how alt-tab orders things.
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