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HenryEx posted:I've been in a room with three The Cage's in regular old Rebirth already, why should this scare me Because that looks to be Necropolis I. You might have a decent load out by then, but not "four Cages in one fight" easy mode load out. Even with what looks like gigantic tears and Devil Bum, that run was ended.  E: in fact: That looks like a normal double trouble cage room with the top and bottom portions cut away, so roughly the size of a normal room of usable space. And i haven't seen the stream, but I'm guessing those are like the red Monstros which only jump, so that's four Cages likely just constantly rolling around all the time. Without flight, good luck! bawk fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Jibo posted:Other than the Poop, I'm pretty sure any "useless or annoying item" is actually intended to be an upgrade, even if they are in some cases actually detrimental. Aw, The Poop isn't so bad, you can use it to cross pits and clear red poops. death .cab for qt posted:Because that looks to be Necropolis I. You might have a decent load out by then, but not "four Cages in one fight" easy mode load out. Even with what looks like gigantic tears and Devil Bum, that run was ended. They were trying to end it because they only had so much time. Cobalt decided to end the run by seeing how many rooms he could get through just mashing his face into things.
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Dr. Fetus posted:How does Edmund not see R U A Wizard as a negative effect? It's always a downgrade to your DPS. The 20/20 version sounds pretty great to me, I will enjoy trying to maximize dps with it in rooms filled with enemies
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Ariong posted:Aw, The Poop isn't so bad, you can use it to cross pits and clear red poops. Yeah I actually like it for both of those reasons and also for the slight chance of an extra item drop every room but I'm pretty sure that it's intended to be a garbage item.
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I'm guessing the Dunce Cap is something that only got added in for the sake of making a new Challenge level.
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Amazing Cain seed so far, sharing for goodness: - Basement XL w/ deaths touch and revenge fly, growth hormones and cat-o-nine-tails boss items  - Caves 1 devil beggar with gimp mask, shop with champion belt  - Skip basement and caves 1 devil rooms for an angel room with sacred heart on caves 2
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Mons Hubris posted:I'm guessing the Dunce Cap is something that only got added in for the sake of making a new Challenge level.
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Jibo posted:Yeah I actually like it for both of those reasons and also for the slight chance of an extra item drop every room but I'm pretty sure that it's intended to be a garbage item. It's also useful if you have the petrified pop trinket. Now, If the poop had a low chance to be gold, corny, red, or rainbow, that would make it actually viable
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Iron Leg posted:Amazing Cain seed so far, sharing for goodness: That's decidedly better than my last Judas run, where the only non-activated items before Mom (at which point I just gave up in disgust) were Taurus and the Cursed Eye
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death .cab for qt posted:That looks like a normal double trouble cage room with the top and bottom portions cut away, so roughly the size of a normal room of usable space. And i haven't seen the stream, but I'm guessing those are like the red Monstros which only jump, so that's four Cages likely just constantly rolling around all the time. Without flight, good luck! Those are a champion version of the Cage, and I'm guessing it's just "two for one" like the pink Widow or the pink Monstro. And the Wiz (dunce cap) doesn't completely turn me off. It fires both directions at once so you have the full fire rate with each stream. And you have an advantage against things that attack you on the orthogonal. Like the Bloat. Where are your eye lasers now, Mr. UTI?
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You can already cheese the Bloat by standing above him; he can't fire the laser up
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IMJack posted:Those are a champion version of the Cage, and I'm guessing it's just "two for one" like the pink Widow or the pink Monstro. They're not red Cages, they're all being hit by ludovico+brimstone+something (new fear shot visual?)
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kemikalkadet posted:They're not red Cages, they're all being hit by ludovico+brimstone+something (new fear shot visual?) I watched the video; they're pink Cages that spawned in distinct pairs. The black ring visual is a new Devil Room item called the Athame. Whenever you get hit, the ring appears for a few seconds to murder the gently caress out of any monster it touches.
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That dunce cap item seems really good? One angle is your normal DPS, so you just have to get used to firing at a 45 degree angle, and every once in a while you get a bonus hit for free.
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TheModernAmerican posted:That dunce cap item seems really good? One angle is your normal DPS, so you just have to get used to firing at a 45 degree angle, and every once in a while you get a bonus hit for free. Yeah, in the vid it's clear- both tears fire simultaneously, so it's actually a solid item. Edit: Also Athame is a speed runner's dream. Once you're good enough to view your health pool as a resource instead of a safety buffer it's the equivalent of a 1/room damage item that you can use at will for the cost of half a heart. It also looked like it spit out sin hearts on hit once in a while, which is just stupid good. Cephalocidal fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Dunce cap will at least be interesting for weirdo tear effects. That'll be fun. What happens if you're wearing it and you take a Wizard pill though? Do you shoot tears from your ears?
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Cephalocidal posted:Yeah, in the vid it's clear- both tears fire simultaneously, so it's actually a solid item. Did he have 20/20 in the video?
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Jusupov posted:Did he have 20/20 in the video? Nope, feature of the item. Permanent double wiz is the pickup description.
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How do you get the last seed that you played? The last one I played was nuts, but I didn't write down the seed as I thought it was logged. I found the log file in ~/My Games/Binding Of Isaac Rebirth, but the log file is huge, and the number of results for "seed" is too high. My last run didn't start out great, but I started with piercing tears, then soy milk, and the boss room gave me 20/20. Eventually I got Max's Body (and head), and rubber cement, which just filled the room with so many tears that melted enemies. Then Death's Touch, which turned everything into Scythes. This picture doesn't do it justice: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=508654125 IUG fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Skunkrocker posted:Dunce cap will at least be interesting for weirdo tear effects. That'll be fun. This would make the tears fly at the player. Clearly a 3DS-exclusive feature.
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Picking up an R U A Wizard pill with that item should just give you the regular Double Vision effect. That'd also make the pill actually useful for something.
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With all the new item synergies I'd be interested to see homing + tech/brim + dunce cap. You'd have two lasers that home in and could home in on different groups of enemies for maximum room clearage. Or Ed will program in a bunch of new brim synergies for old items but forget to do it for new items.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Picking up an R U A Wizard pill with that item should just give you the regular Double Vision effect. That'd also make the pill actually useful for something. What is it a reference to, anyway?
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Kurtofan posted:What is it a reference to, anyway? This pic: 
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So what's the status on the handheld ports? Are either of em worth owning yet, or ever will be?
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Volt Catfish posted:So what's the status on the handheld ports? Are either of em worth owning yet, or ever will be? I play exclusively on the Vita and I loving love it. I was playing on the train yesterday, and I think that when you're comparing the different versions, the portability is the most standout feature since the visuals are comparatively simple. The only lovely thing is getting the Curse of Darkness while trying to play in even a bit of normal sunlight. Many rooms, such as the ones filled with the black bomb-fly things, become essentially impossible. edit: On another note I heartily approve of the game's bold pro-gambling stance: 
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I've played on Vita a lot and there's some slowdown/frame loss at times. It's not that bad but some people find that kind of thing more obnoxious than I do. It's totally playable though; I did all the Lost stuff on Vita, even. No clue about the N3DS version, but do keep in mind that you need a New 3DS to play it; the old models can't play it.
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BreakAtmo posted:edit: On another note I heartily approve of the game's bold pro-gambling stance: Which reminds me, the preview video had a new trinket called the Poker Chip, but the guy didn't hold on to it long enough to see what it did. The flavor text was something abut doubling down.
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Based off of just that slight information I'm assuming it gives you a chance of getting 2 of a coin/bomb/key instead of just one from a pickup. Like the items that do that for each individual pickup already, but for all of them at once. edit: Or I'm wrong and it gives you a 2x chance of encountering super greed in every room on each floor for the rest of the run. Who knows with this game.
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There's already the Humbleing Bundle which doubles all item drops.
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I'm guessing it's something along the lines of Shellgame/Slot Machine/Fortune Teller take two coins but have better payouts when you win, probably just doubling what they spit out.
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VDay posted:There's already the Humbleing Bundle which doubles all item drops. It's not a trinket though. There are several items that have trinkets that do the same thing. Jibo's idea is better though.
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Jibo posted:I'm guessing it's something along the lines of Shellgame/Slot Machine/Fortune Teller take two coins but have better payouts when you win, probably just doubling what they spit out. This is exactly what I thought as well
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On the subject of the Vita version, it works fine with the Vita TV (or whatever it's called). You just need to remap the buttons that use the touch screen to something else (I use the d-pad). The Vita version in general is fine but yeah there are some framerate issues when you've a lot of buddies and there are a lot of enemies, but it's nothing too terrible and only occasional.
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It also hates rubber cement and tammy's body quite a bit. If you get a busy build it pretty much caves in but it's serviceable. Usually by the time your build is slowing the vita down you're destroying rooms in a second anyways.
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flyboi posted:Usually by the time your build is slowing the vita down you're destroying rooms in a second anyways. Yeah that's pretty accurate. I'm using the Vita version for all the unlocks / challenges now. Haven't had any other issues, and it's not stopping me achieving anything. I'm equally as awful at the game on Vita as I am on PS4.
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Seed HHPBNLXE Judas seed, you start next to treasure room, that room has the Holy Mantle
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Sometimes this RNG just sucks. Managed to get book of revs on the basement, killed 2 of the horsemen and used The World on depths 1. It showed a double boss room 
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 http://bindingofisaac.com/post/128066842874/nope-afterbirth-update-22 New Afterbirth update, there will be a release date and pre-orders taken next week Monday, but who knows, maybe Ed's going to say it's the week after too. Other than that there's not much else other then explaining Greed Mode a little more and how the Mode will have completely different item pools. There's also a silver treasure room now? 
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Why is the Screw halfway in the wall and semitransparent?
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