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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

The old lady next door still used a free NetZero account (on an old Compaq running Win98) until a couple of years ago. She starting getting paranoid that "the hackers were gonna get her" just by having a computer in the house and got rid of it. She was even smashing all the old pressed CDs she had "so they can't get my information off of them".

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The_Franz posted:

The old lady next door still used a free NetZero account (on an old Compaq running Win98) until a couple of years ago. She starting getting paranoid that "the hackers were gonna get her" just by having a computer in the house and got rid of it. She was even smashing all the old pressed CDs she had "so they can't get my information off of them".

There's a story I read about a woman who called someone for help with her computer (I think a relative), hysterical that the mafia had hacked her computer.

She had accidentally activated Chrome's Incognito mode.

big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

chitoryu12 posted:

There's a story I read about a woman who called someone for help with her computer (I think a relative), hysterical that the mafia had hacked her computer.

She had accidentally activated Chrome's Incognito mode.



"No Grandma, that is so you can view por...... I mean look up things that you don't really want saved on your computer."

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Well, if Dolby has their way, 5.1/7.2 or whatever combination will be dead in the higher tier home theaters.

It was announced in 2012 apparently but only just got to setup the a Dolby Atmos system at work. It consists of a new funtastic numbering system! 7.x.2 or 7.x.4 (the x being your number of subwoofers).

The extra 2 or 4 are ceiling speakers.

The stuff is amazing on the demo Bluray, and if you cannot drill out holes in your ceiling, there's an option for special speakers that reflect off the ceiling from the front/side of the room.

Here's an interesting easy to read article on it.
[url] http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2014/08/18/10-things-need-know-doblys-atmos-home-theatre-mobile-3d-sound-system/ [/url]

I'm not entirely sold on it for my own home, as I am lazy and happy with what I have now being over the top (7.2).

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Humphreys posted:

Well, if Dolby has their way, 5.1/7.2 or whatever combination will be dead in the higher tier home theaters.

It was announced in 2012 apparently but only just got to setup the a Dolby Atmos system at work. It consists of a new funtastic numbering system! 7.x.2 or 7.x.4 (the x being your number of subwoofers).

The extra 2 or 4 are ceiling speakers.

The stuff is amazing on the demo Bluray, and if you cannot drill out holes in your ceiling, there's an option for special speakers that reflect off the ceiling from the front/side of the room.

Here's an interesting easy to read article on it.
[url] http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2014/08/18/10-things-need-know-doblys-atmos-home-theatre-mobile-3d-sound-system/ [/url]

I'm not entirely sold on it for my own home, as I am lazy and happy with what I have now being over the top (7.2).

NHK already has them beat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/22.2_surround_sound

A little insider info: So much live content is still produced in barely-stereo then run through a 5.1 synthesizer before distribution. We still have trouble finding enough people who can mix 5.1 well.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

eddiewalker posted:

NHK already has them beat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/22.2_surround_sound

A little insider info: So much live content is still produced in barely-stereo then run through a 5.1 synthesizer before distribution. We still have trouble finding enough people who can mix 5.1 well.

Jesus christ.



An audiophile and his money are soon parted...

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
At least that actually makes a sort of sense, unlike half the stuff audiophiles do. CD mats are probably my favorite... but that's a bit off topic, as the technology works perfectly to do what it was invented to do (get suckers' money)

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

ryonguy posted:

Jesus christ.



An audiophile and his money are soon parted...

~* somewhere, Alan Parsons awakes and begins demanding to remaster Dark Side of the Moon for 22.2; no one is in the room to hear his ravings *~

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


eddiewalker posted:


We still have trouble finding enough people who can mix 5.1 well.

I've been doing it on and off for the last 12 years when I was required to fudge around when an audio guy wasn't available and management go "hey Humphreys does video...its the same thing really", but lacking in any sort of 'certification' other than a university degree in a grab all of 'production'. Biggest time/money waster ever. I would be interested if you could let me know of any specifics I could train up on to get a certification.

I burnt out from video editing some time ago and sadly doing a retail sales job selling things to audiophiles :(

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dWpCy8rdc

Every time I see the diagram of the 22.2 surround setup, I find myself thinking that the people behind it did not consider the importance of doors in room design.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Jedit posted:

Every time I see the diagram of the 22.2 surround setup, I find myself thinking that the people behind it did not consider the importance of doors in room design.

You can fit a door pretty easily on the back wall, or the front or back of the side walls.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jedit posted:

Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dWpCy8rdc

Every time I see the diagram of the 22.2 surround setup, I find myself thinking that the people behind it did not consider the importance of doors in room design.

You enter the room via a fireman's pole from the ceiling. You die there, because the glorious sound from your speaker setup liquifies your brain..

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
What's the point of that anyway? When you listen to a concert live, the instruments are at the front. Presumably, that's how the composer intended the music to be heard. I can see how 5.1 could make up for mediocre acoustics, but 22 speakers is total overkill. I guess maybe someone could write music specifically for this setup, but I doubt anyone would go to the effort to reach such a tiny audience.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Konstantin posted:

What's the point of that anyway? When you listen to a concert live, the instruments are at the front. Presumably, that's how the composer intended the music to be heard. I can see how 5.1 could make up for mediocre acoustics, but 22 speakers is total overkill. I guess maybe someone could write music specifically for this setup, but I doubt anyone would go to the effort to reach such a tiny audience.

It's definitely meant for movies more than music.

22.2 is a small system compared to most cinema setups.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


I can't tell the difference between 5.1 and stereo.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

I can't tell the difference between 5.1 and stereo.

You don't have to spend half an hour hearing about how your buddy set up his stereo speakers.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Kaizoku posted:

You don't have to spend half an hour hearing about how your buddy set up his stereo speakers.

:laugh:

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I bet there aren't any PC games that come with companion novellas these days.

Of course, the only one that I can think of that ever did was Stonekeep, which was and is amazing and hugely underrated. The novella was garbage but I appreciate the effort.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
It wasn't a novella, but Neverwinter Nights shipped with 9/10 of the D&D3 PHB in it's manual.

Lockmat
Oct 2, 2005

Come on, let's go set some prostitutes on fire.
Grimey Drawer

cheerfullydrab posted:

I bet there aren't any PC games that come with companion novellas these days.

Of course, the only one that I can think of that ever did was Stonekeep, which was and is amazing and hugely underrated. The novella was garbage but I appreciate the effort.

Westeland 2 came with novellas if you pledged high enough on the kickstarter.

Zebulon
Aug 20, 2005

Oh god why does it burn?!

cheerfullydrab posted:

I bet there aren't any PC games that come with companion novellas these days.

Of course, the only one that I can think of that ever did was Stonekeep, which was and is amazing and hugely underrated. The novella was garbage but I appreciate the effort.

Outpost 2, a rather goofy but interesting RTS/Sims hybrid of sorts, came with a companion novella for the campaigns as a text file.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


On extra stuff with games....I do kinda miss Red Book Audio on PC CD-ROM games.

GTA 1 had it and I remember fooling my mother that I was listening into the police radio channels (one of the tracks was the radio chatter). And I spent maybe two years listening to the music tracks on the Carmageddon CD-ROM not thinking the music was from a known band at the time until I independently found out about Fear Factory and upon getting their back catalog and popping in 'Demanufacture' I lost my mind with the nostalgia.

EDIT: It might have been a game called 'Emergency' not GTA 1.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 12:34 on Aug 31, 2015

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


GTA definitely had the police radio chatter as a track on the CD, but other games probably did, too.

And :hfive: almost Carmageddon-introduced-me-to-Fear-Factory buddy. Hell, it got me into metal in general. That and the Quake 2 soundtrack.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I used to listen to the Total Annihilation disc's bombastic scores. :black101:

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
I miss all the extras that used to come in those enormous PC game boxes :smith:

Homeworld's "Technical and Historical Briefing" comes to mind. Man, that was so cool. I remember Master of Orion III shipped with a thick-rear end book that doubled as the manual and a recounting of the history of the game universe. It was rad as gently caress, too. The original Starcraft did something similar, iirc.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

I miss all the extras that used to come in those enormous PC game boxes :smith:

Homeworld's "Technical and Historical Briefing" comes to mind. Man, that was so cool. I remember Master of Orion III shipped with a thick-rear end book that doubled as the manual and a recounting of the history of the game universe. It was rad as gently caress, too. The original Starcraft did something similar, iirc.
Check out the extras you get for buying a physical copy of the new MGS on PC :v:


Armymen In Space came with an army man or two, it was the most :effort: extra you could pack in.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Croccers posted:

Check out the extras you get for buying a physical copy of the new MGS on PC :v:


I love this because literally the only reason for a physical copy nowadays is if you have a bandwidth cap.

Also yeah, the Homeworld manual was the best. Also best game.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Falcon 4.0 came with it's manual as a goddamn binder along with a sweet map of the Korean Peninsula.

Mayostard
Apr 21, 2007

In the Chamber of Understanding

Croccers posted:

Check out the extras you get for buying a physical copy of the new MGS on PC :v:


Armymen In Space came with an army man or two, it was the most :effort: extra you could pack in.

Could be a short sighted and incredibly lame attempt at keeping the PC version from leaking and getting cracked ahead of schedule.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

NLJP posted:

I love this because literally the only reason for a physical copy nowadays is if you have a bandwidth cap.

I can't sell a digital copy at a used-game store.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

You can't sell a used PC game anyway.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Aphrodite posted:

You can't sell a used PC game anyway.

Sure you can at places like Half Price Books.

Tatrakrad
May 14, 2007

I cited my sources and all he said was, "owned owned owned owned owned"

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

I miss all the extras that used to come in those enormous PC game boxes :smith:

Homeworld's "Technical and Historical Briefing" comes to mind. Man, that was so cool. I remember Master of Orion III shipped with a thick-rear end book that doubled as the manual and a recounting of the history of the game universe. It was rad as gently caress, too. The original Starcraft did something similar, iirc.

Learning about arcologies in the Sim City 2000 manual helped me look smart in a college architecture class 14 years later. Effort game manuals were a public service.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

I miss all the extras that used to come in those enormous PC game boxes :smith:



Of course it's only huge because it's 20 games. Ironically it probably still only took a couple of floppies. All the weight is from manuals and hint books.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Krispy Kareem posted:



Of course it's only huge because it's 20 games. Ironically it probably still only took a couple of floppies. All the weight is from manuals and hint books.
There's more than a couple floppies.



There's five 3.5" and ten 5.25" discs in there. Which, true, weigh a hell of a lot less than the two books (one for the manuals and one with the content of the InvisiClue hint books). And a bunch of maps.

If you had the original versions of all of the games it would be a hell of a lot bigger. One of the distinguishing features of Infocom games was the inclusion of a bunch of `feelies'---poo poo like physical copies of in-game items (ID cards, photos, glow-in-the-dark magic rocks, peril-sensitive sunglasses, and so on) which are just part of the documentation in the Lost Treasures set.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Krispy Kareem posted:



Of course it's only huge because it's 20 games. Ironically it probably still only took a couple of floppies. All the weight is from manuals and hint books.

I have that! It's *still* not everything they put out, and it's lacking a lot of the feelies, even the paper ones.

(I wish we'd go back to some cool 'flat' feelies... an in-character pamphlet or an ID card or a couple postcards are just plain fun, way more than a giant rear end plastic statue you have to store for the rest of eternity)

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Keiya posted:

I have that! It's *still* not everything they put out, and it's lacking a lot of the feelies, even the paper ones.

(I wish we'd go back to some cool 'flat' feelies... an in-character pamphlet or an ID card or a couple postcards are just plain fun, way more than a giant rear end plastic statue you have to store for the rest of eternity)

I bought a Bobby's World DVD out of a bin for $3 ages ago, it included a scratch-n-sniff card. The scent was cardboard.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I used to have an IBM PCjr so the only games it could play were Infocom. I'd mail order them and six to eight weeks later I'd have my game.

The extras always went a long way towards making up for the complete lack of graphics. I think Leather Goddesses of Phobos had the most elaborate setup, although I can't remember exactly what it was now.

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

Krispy Kareem posted:

I think Leather Goddesses of Phobos had the most elaborate setup, although I can't remember exactly what it was now.

I remember the scratch-and-sniff card, the mini-comic, and the map. There might have been more non-flat feelies in an earlier release, I had the one that came in a flat paperboard folder.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

According to Wikipedia:

quote:

* A small scratch and sniff card which bore seven numbered areas (at certain points in the game, the player would be instructed to scratch a certain number and then whiff the resulting odor. Given the possibilities for a game featuring a "lewd mode", the scents were relatively innocuous, such as pizza and chocolate.)

* The Adventures of Lane Mastodon, a 3-D comic book containing vital hints to the game

* 3-D glasses for the Lane Mastodon comic book

* A double-sided map of the catacombs

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