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Panty Saluter posted:OK, 800 dollars. Ignoring the fact that cheap wheels are heavy, and that spending extra money on a car that sees only light use is kind of silly. I work for Costco and looked up inventory at Issaquah: 679178 22 DEFENDER XT 185/65R14 3050 86T BSW 86.99 32 A 680190 22 DEFENDER XT 185/70R14 21523 88T BSW 92.99 12 A 680191 22 DEFENDER XT 195/70R14 24319 91T BSW 101.99 23 A With the "once every 3 months" Michelin coupon, the total should be under $500 for the smaller ones.
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Meydey posted:I work for Costco and looked up inventory at Issaquah: ...and none of those are the right size. Y'all have no business calling me obtuse. 
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Panty Saluter posted:Forums poster "HotCanadianChick" wins the reading comprehension award. You literally tried blaming Obama for your lack of selection when I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of C4C casualties did not rock 14" wheels.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:32
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Panty Saluter posted:...and none of those are the right size. Jesus Christ, you are tedious. You are Terrible Car Stuff.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:33
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Panty Saluter posted:Forums poster "HotCanadianChick" wins the reading comprehension award. Look for r888s on ebay, usually you can get a small new pair, not set, for under $200 in 14/15.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:36
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Maker Of Shoes posted:You literally tried blaming Obama for your lack of selection when I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of C4C casualties did not rock 14" wheels. Beep boop, computer, what is humor? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Panty Saluter posted:Beep boop, computer, what is humor? Go away dumbass.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:52
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.....guys, I think he was being sarcastic. Chill the gently caress out. To contribute.  Edit: Tables! CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Aug 31, 2015 17:55
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Well that's definitely a Ferrari Enzo if I ever saw one. Nice minimal, clean lines
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Aug 31, 2015 17:58
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Maker Of Shoes posted:You literally tried blaming Obama for your lack of selection when I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of C4C casualties did not rock 14" wheels. I definitely didn't steal anybody's tinywheels. I drive a Miata.
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Aug 31, 2015 18:01
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I definitely didn't steal anybody's tinywheels. I drive a Miata. You're doing God's work, son. 
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Aug 31, 2015 18:02
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Panty Saluter posted:My 14" tired car still gets 26-27 MPG in mixed driving, partially because it's not saddled with huge stupid tires My brand new car with 19" stupid huge wheels gets 26mpg in mixed driving. It also has 290 hp. Whats the problem again? Now lets talk about finding snow tires in 19". It's going to be cheaper for me to buy 17" wheels AND tires, then sell the 2nd set of 19s than to try to buy 19" tires. This is all OBAMAS fault. Also, my 1958 car has 15" tires, why do 14" tires even exist?
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Aug 31, 2015 18:23
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veedubfreak posted:why do 14" tires even exist? So we can complain about it on the internet. 
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Panty Saluter posted:I'm 99% sure it is. The whole thing reeks of FW: FW: FW: FW: kids these days!!!! https://youtu.be/jElzsePBwaI
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Aug 31, 2015 18:45
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I want to know what this 14in tired car is.
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Aug 31, 2015 20:26
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http://www.wheel-size.com/tire/195/60R14/ I choose to believe it's a Cabrio
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Aug 31, 2015 20:30
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nm posted:I want to know what this 14in tired car is. Could be any 80's or early 90's Toyota. Corollas/Celicas/MR2s/Camrys/Supras/Cressidas all used them in the 80's, and many kept using them into the 90's. Or it could be an NA Miata.
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Aug 31, 2015 20:38
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Honda whatever
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I vote for a Subaru XT6 because they are cool (odds are Accord)
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Aug 31, 2015 20:49
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Honda whatever Well, if we know one thing for sure, it's that bigger wheels are not available inexpensively for hondas at all. Might as well sell the car.
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Aug 31, 2015 20:50
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HotCanadianChick posted:Could be any 80's or early 90's Toyota. Corollas/Celicas/MR2s/Camrys/Supras/Cressidas all used them in the 80's, and many kept using them into the 90's. I was hopeing it was a maita because the OEM 15in 12lb bbs wheels go for very little money.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Could be any 80's or early 90's Toyota. Corollas/Celicas/MR2s/Camrys/Supras/Cressidas all used them in the 80's, and many kept using them into the 90's. My wife's 2007 Yaris has 14" steel rims. It began life as a fleet vehicle, maybe that's where it came from?
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The most hilarious thing is I remember the selection of 14" tires starting to thin out back sometime around 2006-07, when I had to put tires on my NB Miata, and even less so still when I bought tires for my Volvo 240 or my Ranger. The tire selection for my C10 is downright dismal (but, really, it's the same tires that were available 30 years ago, so it's more that there's been no improvement).
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Aug 31, 2015 21:52
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Terrible car stuff: I can only put 17" alloys on my car for winter wheels. No one makes a 17" steelie that will fit. QQ
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veedubfreak posted:Terrible car stuff: I can only put 17" alloys on my car for winter wheels. No one makes a 17" steelie that will fit. QQ My space saver spare is an alloy, I guess they don't make steelies to clear 13" Brembos.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:22
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My Miata has 18 inch wheels, am I doing something wrong?
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Do you know how hard it is to find 14 inch tires that also have the appropriate load/sidewall rating for my bus? I went into discount tire and told them what vehicle I wanted it for and they said "thanks but no thanks." What's so different between a bus that weighs 3300 pounds with 205/75-14 tires and the 205/75-14 tires I bought for my 4200 pound 1988 Oldsmobile Delta 88? For some reason when I tell the tire guys that I'm buying them for the olds they have a dozen different tires but when I say it's for the bus they look up load ratings and tell me that they don't have anything.
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Geirskogul posted:Do you know how hard it is to find 14 inch tires that also have the appropriate load/sidewall rating for my bus? I went into discount tire and told them what vehicle I wanted it for and they said "thanks but no thanks." I got tires for mine from busdepot that were C rated. That was like 10 years ago though so maybe they dont carry them anymore. Id check but Im phoneposting right now.
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rdb posted:Pretty sure cash for clunkers had a fuel economy rating tied in with it, and whatever car that takes 14" economy tires far exceeded that. In this case, I would think rust killed them off. C4c killed off the cheap supply of Cherokees, explorers and the likes. This assumes that the C4C deals only ever got applied to gas-guzzling SUVs and 70s land barges (you know, what C4C was meant to get off the road), and I can assure with with 100% certainty that they didn't. I watched entire tractor trailers full of crushed 90s civics and corollas get hauled away from dealers during the height of that bullshit, cars that still had tons of life left and got well above the C4C mileage rating. Dealers didn't give a gently caress, they were getting free money from the government to sell people cars they didn't need. It was nothing more than a gigantic money grab/bait & switch for the manufacturers and in the end the lower classes got hosed really hard by it, because now there aren't really any cheap, decent, running cars. Not in the abundance that there used to be.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:39
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They were not crushing cars that didn't meet the MPG requirements.
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BraveUlysses posted:They were not crushing cars that didn't meet the MPG requirements. lol OK, so I didn't sit and watch multiple 90s era Hondas, Toyotas, and the odd Mazda get loaded into a crusher and then into the back of a bigass recycling truck, which was parked at a local Chevy dealership. Sure buddy  edit: I mean I can buy that the odd one here or there was so hosed up that it didn't pass the MPG requirements but this was like a dozen or so cars that clearly shouldn't have even qualified for C4C.
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There were only around 700,000 cars total traded in with the program. Could that really have had any noticeable effect on the supply of old cars? It seems far more likely that most of the old sorry cars just died of natural causes.
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Terrible Robot posted:lol OK, so I didn't sit and watch multiple 90s era Hondas, Toyotas, and the odd Mazda get loaded into a crusher and then into the back of a bigass recycling truck, which was parked at a local Chevy dealership. Anecdotal evidence is highly reliable and comprehensive for forming educated opinions There isn't a SINGLE civic or corolla in the list of cars. Not one. Furthermore, only about 100k cars were traded in, 570k trucks/vans traded in. This country has over 200 million registered vehicles. Statistical drop in a bucket.
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There were a lot of Cherokee sacrificed in vain, I remember that much.
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Continental ContiPremiumContact 2 can be had in 195/60-14. Hth
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Rhyno posted:There were a lot of Cherokee sacrificed in vain, I remember that much. F-150s and Explorers, too. As I recall, Ford Explorer was #1 traded in under the program. At my local wrecking yard I saw a lot of both (with C4C spray painted on the sides) and a whole host of other medium-sized SUVs. Many of them in very nice condition, sadly. I'm sue, as stated, it was a drop in the bucket, but it sure looked like a lot of nice cars got stripped/crushed.
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Terrible Robot posted:This assumes that the C4C deals only ever got applied to gas-guzzling SUVs and 70s land barges (you know, what C4C was meant to get off the road), and I can assure with with 100% certainty that they didn't. I watched entire tractor trailers full of crushed 90s civics and corollas get hauled away from dealers during the height of that bullshit, cars that still had tons of life left and got well above the C4C mileage rating. Dealers didn't give a gently caress, they were getting free money from the government to sell people cars they didn't need. It was nothing more than a gigantic money grab/bait & switch for the manufacturers and in the end the lower classes got hosed really hard by it, because now there aren't really any cheap, decent, running cars. Not in the abundance that there used to be. Many dealers offered a one time comparable trade in value for any car during cash for clunkers. Somewhere there is an actual list of the vehicles that CARS paid out for, I can assure you civics weren't on there. Lots of Explorers, Blazers, Cherokees, Astros etc. Edit: also vehicles had to be less than 25 years old. 70s land barges need not apply. rdb fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Darchangel posted:F-150s and Explorers, too. As I recall, Ford Explorer was #1 traded in under the program. At my local wrecking yard I saw a lot of both (with C4C spray painted on the sides) and a whole host of other medium-sized SUVs. Many of them in very nice condition, sadly. The worst part was the required slurry they poured into the engines so the couldn't be later salvaged. I'm surprised they didn't require the cars to have the body panels all beaten with sledge hammers.
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