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WOY is pretty good but it has no interest I catering to an adult audience so it's appeal is kind of limited. It's kind of like this generation's Phinneas and Ferb.
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Phineas and Ferb had plenty of jokes that appealed to adults, which makes sense because the co-creators worked on Rocko's Modern Life together (also The Simpsons and Family Guy- not surprisingly, they worked on the episodes of both shows with musical numbers). I'd say it's not a prerequisite for kids' cartoons to have jokes that adults will also get, but I can't think of many examples in recent years. Even Clarence has its fair share of those jokes, and that's as close to a cartoon without continuity as you have these days. I'll have to watch it stoned, I guess. Weed is the great equalizer when it comes to TV.
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xcheopis posted:I have finally caught up with all but the latest Wander Over Yonder and I love it. (The shorts were hilarious, especially 'The Glitch'.) The episode where its a slasher flick only it's Wander gift giving people into submission (The Gift 2) is really fun.
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Macaluso posted:Archer glorifies assholeishness in the same way that Master Shake or Eddy or Cartman glorifies assholeishness. Which is to say, he doesn't. In that, they are constantly shown to be in the wrong and big pieces of poo poo to their friends and frequently get their comeuppance.
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Cartman is just an overton window to make the assholishness of the creators delivered through the rest of the cast look grounded and reasonable by comparison.
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Three and a half seasons, some of which were pretty fun. The last season of South Park actually had continuity between episodes.
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So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who.
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TwoPair posted:So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. The times have changed enough for a Victorious reboot.
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TwoPair posted:So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. It will all be worth it If they bring back the same guy who did Hey Arnold's music for it's reboot.
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TwoPair posted:So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. Well if it was like the early stuff which got downright surreal at times, I could possibly get behind a reboot
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If they use the chance to make thd Hey Arnold jungle movie then hell yeah. Plus CN has a few shows like that with TTG and the upcoming PPG
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El Tortuga posted:The times have changed enough for a Victorious reboot. Without Jade & Cat? Pass.
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readingatwork posted:WOY is pretty good but it has no interest I catering to an adult audience so it's appeal is kind of limited. It's kind of like this generation's Phinneas and Ferb. "Generations" last less than 7 years now? Also, Phineas and Ferb had plenty of jokes that kids wouldn't pick up on, it's one of the few shows that other people with kids I know legitimately enjoyed rather than being one of those things they have to watch because their kids want to watch it. Got pretty lovely in the last year or two though. I can't get into the Wander show, every time I try it comes off as one of those obnoxiously screamy shows that only kids would like because kids have horrible taste. I get kind of pissed off just from seeing the intro before I can change the channel. TwoPair posted:So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. Who asked for a new CG Alvin and the Chipmunks show, with the "chipmunks" looking more horrifyingly freakish than ever? raditts fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Disney shows other than Gravity Falls, including Kim Possible, Phineas, Wander and that one new show with the magical girl wand, all always seemed to be real boring to me. I think it's because they're not aimed at or written by weirdo adults who watch children's cartoons, like most CN shows throughout the years. I can't see the Disney show creators drawing porn of their characters on the side unlike Rebecca Sugar or John Kricfalusi, for example And as for Nickelodeon, I feel like they were always sort of the third children's network, I don't really think the market is big enough to support three of them. CN is more of an animation for animation's sake network, Disney is more of a wring money out of tweens network, and Nick is caught in the middle of that and can't do either as well as CN or Disney icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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icantfindaname posted:Disney shows other than Gravity Falls, including Kim Possible, Phineas, Wander and that one new show with the magical girl wand, all always seemed to be real boring to me. I think it's because they're not aimed at or written by weirdo adults who watch children's cartoons, like most CN shows throughout the years. I can't see the Disney show creators drawing porn of their characters on the side unlike Rebecca Sugar or John Kricfalusi, for example Even when I was in the target audience (late 90s/early 00s), I always put Disney Channel as a distant third behind Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. And that was even taking into account CN's bizarre obsession with showing 12 hours of Scooby Doo a day around that time. Nickelodeon was my favorite of the three. Invader Zim was my favorite cartoon, plus Rocko's Modern Life, the Angry Beavers, and Hey Arnold were definitely up there for me. Also Avatar The Last Airbender was amazing, though that came kind of on the tail end of my childhood cartoon watching years. Oh how the times have changed, now Nick is the worst and CN is the best. Pakled fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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icantfindaname posted:Disney shows other than Gravity Falls, including Kim Possible, Phineas, Wander and that one new show with the magical girl wand, all always seemed to be real boring to me. I think it's because they're not aimed at or written by weirdo adults who watch children's cartoons, like most CN shows throughout the years. I can't see the Disney show creators drawing porn of their characters on the side unlike Rebecca Sugar or John Kricfalusi, for example Nickelodeon I wouldn't be surprised to see collapse as a network within the next 5-10 years really(possibly the rest of Viacom as well, as I've heard they haven't been doing so hot the last couple of years)
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drrockso20 posted:Nickelodeon I wouldn't be surprised to see collapse as a network within the next 5-10 years really(possibly the rest of Viacom as well, as I've heard they haven't been doing so hot the last couple of years) I think Nickelodeon really became a victim of its own success. They've been milking the Spongebob/Schneider train for so long that they've totally forgotten how to develop and market successful new series. Spongebob and FOP will run forever because Nickelodeon has absolutely nothing to replace them with.
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Yeah, Nick has been bizarrely keeping some shows around way past their expiration dates; Dora, Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents, and Fairly Oddparents But With Ghosts come to mind. I'm pretty sure at least one of those has been on long enough where people who enjoyed them as kids now have kids of their own who can still see new episodes.Pakled posted:Even when I was in the target audience (late 90s/early 00s), I always put Disney Channel as a distant third behind Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. And that was even taking into account CN's bizarre obsession with showing 12 hours of Scooby Doo a day around that time. Wasn't Disney still a premium channel as recently as like 2007 or so? raditts fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Most providers transitioned to offering Disney as basic cable between 1997 and 2002. Disney's best was when they churned out their TV versions of their major movie properties (some, like Timon & Pumbaa, were weirder than others). But then I guess most of those got pushed to Toon Disney (does that still even exist?) so they'd have room for other stuff. Nickelodeon hasn't been watchable in years. Other than Spongebob, their animated stuff is garbage (what is this "Pig Goat Banana Chicken" poo poo that I saw? It's visually disgusting), and the rest of their shows are like "generic wizard school show", "generic superhero family show", "generic teen Mexican telenovela".
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Korra was watchable and wasn't TOO long ago. I mean, I didn't like it and still haven't watched seasons 3,4, and it did kinda tank, but it was watchable and not just stupid poo poo like Wacky Monkey Cheese Titlte. TMNT is still going, and though season 3 kinda lost me too seasons 1 and 2 were absolutely fantastic and I'd also call season 3 watchable (at least the part of it I watched, haven't caught back up... and minus one particularly HORRIBLE episode involving bigfoot) Other than that, and especially in the realm of humor shows, yep. Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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They got a new show with Banana Pig Cricket or something, haven't actually seen it, but the art looks sorta Ren and Stimpy-like, and Harvey Beaks which i hear is good maybe, those shows and the announcement of new stuff based on their old show kinda tells me they got a new strategy for their comedy stuff by trying to appeal to 'nostalgia' with their art style but while putting new content, which isn't even a bad idea. Adults and Young Adults can tune in to see a special of their old favorite show, see something in the commercials that looks as if it could've fit with that era of nick and give it a try while their kids watch and enjoy along.
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Harvey Beaks is pretty great but much like with Korra, it sounds like they're completely bungling it and generally stepping on Greenblatt's toes.
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TwoPair posted:Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. Only true 90s kids.
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I refuse to believe that " Banana Pig Cricket " is a real thing. Sounds like a joke about out of touch big wigs trying to create a new IP for those groovy radical kids. Also I thought CN was 3rd place. Why else would they try CNReal?
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PhazonLink posted:Also I thought CN was 3rd place. Why else would they try CNReal? They got in some high-level executive who had a personal hatred of animation and cartoons.
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raditts posted:and Fairly Oddparents But With Ghosts come to mind. s. Hey, Danny Phantom was way better than Fairly Odd Parents and it only lasted 2 seasons before being cancelled, hardly particularly long in the tooth. I also enjoyed the movies, they went interesting places. (The first movie with Freakshow as a main villain had a pretty fun part with Danny's Parents finding out about him being the ghost boy, and when they are wondering why he never said, Jaz points out that all they ever talked about what capturing or dissecting him). Also loved the style behind the Ghostly Wail power, and the third movie had a fun idea behind the climax All the ghosts in the series combine their powers to make the world non-corporeal so that a meteor won't crash into it.
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Flobbster posted:Most providers transitioned to offering Disney as basic cable between 1997 and 2002. Really? I graduated college in 2002 and I know the cable network that included my college still had it as premium. I'm almost positive I didn't start seeing it on basic cable until the mid-2000s at least, granted I wasn't looking terribly hard or anything by that point either. quote:Disney's best was when they churned out their TV versions of their major movie properties (some, like Timon & Pumbaa, were weirder than others). But then I guess most of those got pushed to Toon Disney (does that still even exist?) so they'd have room for other stuff. Toon Disney turned into Disney XD in 2009.
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raditts posted:I can't get into the Wander show, every time I try it comes off as one of those obnoxiously screamy shows that only kids would like because kids have horrible taste. I get kind of pissed off just from seeing the intro before I can change the channel. WOY's opening is hot garbage, no arguments here. It's probably the main reason I never gave the show a fair shot until recently (when The Onion started doing episode reviews).
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readingatwork posted:WOY's opening is hot garbage, no arguments here. It's probably the main reason I never gave the show a fair shot until recently (when The Onion started doing episode reviews).
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TwoPair posted:So I guess Nickelodeon is ready to throw in the loving towel with making new shows to compete with CN or Disney and is just gonna gun for nostalgia bucks now. Who the gently caress is clamoring for more Rugrats? Who. Putting it that way, they're becoming a Hollywood movie studio- they think audiences don't like new stuff (which isn't true- they just don't like their new stuff), so they shovel out familiar retreads. They also don't treat the showrunners and actors well- someone mentioned Greenblatt getting screwed over with his current show, and I remember a bit by Gabriel Iglesias when he kept getting told by someone to sound more "Latino," or something like that, when doing voice work. No wonder why no one wants to work for them. drrockso20 posted:Nickelodeon I wouldn't be surprised to see collapse as a network within the next 5-10 years really(possibly the rest of Viacom as well, as I've heard they haven't been doing so hot the last couple of years)
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Y-Hat posted:Early Rugrats was really good, and people have been clamoring for closure in Hey Arnold (whatever that entails) since it ended. I don't trust today's Nickelodeon to do a good job with reboots, though. What do they have these days besides TMNT, which has apparently taken a turn for the worse this season? I know there's a new Avatar show in the works. I personally wouldn't mind seeing a show focused more on the adults in Rugrats as I seem to remember them being far more entertaining than the kids were. On the other hand, the show more than wore out it's welcome while it was on the air (in fact, it started to go downhill as early as the first movie to the point where they were introducing new characters every season in a desperate attempt to keep things fresh) so I'm not sure how I'd feel about a revival. Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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What was that show where there was a bunch of people and they all had different powers and their individual power was shown as a logo on a computer plate on their chest? Like I think someone could turn into a dolphin? And there was a maze of some sort? Found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visionaries:_Knights_of_the_Magical_Light roxanne fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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X_Toad posted:Really? I love that thing! Same here, I'm not a big fan of bluegrass/folk but Andy Bean's music is one of my favorite things about the show. Even the annoying opening!
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Wander Over Yonder is a show I could never really get into because it's one of those shows where it feels like every episode is the same thing just with a different backdrop, so in that sense I appreciate the intro for illustrating that literally.
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BioEnchanted posted:Also loved the style behind the Ghostly Wail power, and the third movie had a fun idea behind the climax All the ghosts in the series combine their powers to make the world non-corporeal so that a meteor won't crash into it. I'm curious. Did this happen before or after Joss Whedon did pretty much the same thing in his X-Men run?
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jscolon2.0 posted:I'm curious. Did this happen before or after Joss Whedon did pretty much the same thing in his X-Men run? The movie in question, Phantom Planet was aired in 2007, I have no idea when Joss Whedon was doing stuff but I'm sure you can work it out from that clue.
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From a few pages back, there was discussion of Mainframe and their 90s CG cartoons. I think this was their high point and any discussion of Mainframe means I have to go search for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9t7G_lHeiY
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BioEnchanted posted:Hey, Danny Phantom was way better than Fairly Odd Parents and it only lasted 2 seasons before being cancelled, hardly particularly long in the tooth. I also enjoyed the movies, they went interesting places. (The first movie with Freakshow as a main villain had a pretty fun part with Danny's Parents finding out about him being the ghost boy, and when they are wondering why he never said, Jaz points out that all they ever talked about what capturing or dissecting him). Danny Phantom is a show I really liked the concept of and I feel like it could've done much better if it didn't have the exact same Butch Hartman-style animation as Fairly Oddparents. That look just doesn't meld with action, even if you're trying to mix it with comedy.
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