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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Jerry Cotton posted:

A goon, at that.

Funny enough, I was actually very skinny then.

edit: Clarifications, I didn't buy both foot longs for me.

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Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Lowen SoDium posted:

They game me poo poo once for having a card with 4 sequential stamps on it. Like it was beyond belief that someone could possibly buy 2 foot longs at once.

Or that someone might pick up lunch for the office, or any number of other scenarios...

Squish
Nov 22, 2007

Unrelenting.
Lipstick Apathy

Fo3 posted:

What's wrong with yours?
I'm using a dell from 2007 with a c2d t7800 and nvidia 8600m. Been a good laptop pc for all these years.
Only time I had problems with heat is when linux mint cinnimon goes crazy with cpu usage for some dumb reason, or lots of video watching on 35 c degrees summer day. Most of the time the fan is barely circulating air.

Is yours a DV-9500 by any chance? The one that comes with 2 hard drives, because back when they came out it was the only way to have 320gb.

Most of the time it's ok, but when you have anything that uses the graphics card and/or heavy CPU utilisation, the temps climb up to 75°C. A friend of mine who was working in computer service told me long ago to sell it while it was still working and worth something since they often overheat to the point of damaging the board. Basically it's just a matter of being judicious about letting those temps get high. It's also from that era where you can't just get at the fan and clean it - that requires a full disassembly.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Squish posted:

It's also from that era where you can't just get at the fan and clean it - that requires a full disassembly.

I had this problem with an old HP laptop, the fan was so clogged it would barely turn- so a friend and I blew through that sucker with a compressor.

We got some chunks of fan blade out the back, as well as several years worth of dust, it was glorious. Fucker kept chugging for another year or so without a fan.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Squish posted:

Is yours a DV-9500 by any chance? The one that comes with 2 hard drives, because back when they came out it was the only way to have 320gb..
No, mine is a dell vostro. I bought it with a t7100 or t7200, upgraded it to a t7800 in 2011 for $90 with a s/h cpu.
e: I blow out the cooler with compressed air every couple of years. In this model it's easy to have acces to hdd, ram or cpu with removable covers. So upgrades and maintenance is simple.
There's been some nightmare stories about these PC's, but mine has been the most reliable PC I've ever owned. Also no slower or worse than my partner's newer i5 lenovo laptop.
I did have a hybrid seagate drive in it for couple of years that made it even quicker, but that died.
Main problem with the laptop was it shipped with vista, and has no drivers for winxp or win7, that's the main reason why I am using a linux distro on it.

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JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Fo3 posted:

Main problem with the laptop was it shipped with vista, and has no drivers for winxp or win7, that's the main reason why I am using a linux distro on it.

Really? I've never seen anything that had Vista preinstalled and couldn't use the same drivers for 7. Is it more of a 64/32 bit issue?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Fo3 posted:

No, mine is a dell vostro. I bought it with a t7100 or t7200, upgraded it to a t7800 in 2001 for $90 with a s/h cpu.
e: I blow out the cooler with compressed air every couple of years. In this model it's easy to have acces to hdd, ram or cpu with removable covers. So upgrades and maintenance is simple.
There's been some nightmare stories about these PC's, but mine has been the most reliable PC I've ever owned. Also no slower or worse than my partner's newer i5 lenovo laptop.
I did have a hybrid seagate drive in it for couple of years that made it even quicker, but that died.
Main problem with the laptop was it shipped with vista, and has no drivers for winxp or win7, that's the main reason why I am using a linux distro on it.

I am currently on a Vostro 420 desktop. It's a older Core 2 Quad system, but amazing for it's age.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Fo3 posted:

No, mine is a dell vostro...Main problem with the laptop was it shipped with vista, and has no drivers for winxp or win7, that's the main reason why I am using a linux distro on it.

There's gotta be Windows 7 drivers for whatever model of Vostro you have. Where are you looking for drivers?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I have a piece of obsolete technology that needs replacing. It's the Netis WF2190 Wireless AC1200 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter. It cost $50 from Fry's a few months back and it was made obsolete the moment I installed windows 10.

The adapters were sold starting about two years ago but driver support for them stopped one year ago with windows 8.1.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Any TV or device that doesn't have HDCP 2.2 in the near future! :(

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Wilford Cutlery posted:

There's gotta be Windows 7 drivers for whatever model of Vostro you have. Where are you looking for drivers?

Dell never supported win7 with this particular laptop, so there's no official release.
There were some drivers others found and did test, and linked to if you googled.

IIRC the main sticking point was no audio drivers for win 7 (64bit)late edit: I bought the laptop with 2gb and also upgraded it to 4gb when I did the CPU upgrade, so I wanted a 64bit OS.
There was a work around using some other drivers later on. But back then I wanted to get rid of 32bit vista ASAP, and any work arounds didn't come up until much much later. You might find them now, but it was a lot harder back then.

But anyway, who cares, I'm OK with running a 'nix on it.

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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
To make up for the derail about my laptop, SSS posted this in AI.
Nissan/Datsun used a plastic phonograph for car warnings/chimes in the late 70s/early 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJBko3-oV4

We didn't have chimes for Australian market cars (just warning lights, or buzzers at most), inc regular Japanese made cars sold here, so it was amazing seeing it.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

doesn't say "the door is ajar", voted 1

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Fo3 posted:

What's wrong with yours?
I'm using a dell from 2007 with a c2d t7800 and nvidia 8600m. Been a good laptop pc for all these years.
Only time I had problems with heat is when linux mint cinnimon goes crazy with cpu usage for some dumb reason, or lots of video watching on 35 c degrees summer day. Most of the time the fan is barely circulating air.

As long as it's not one of the old Dell Latitude 600 series laptops with the Quadro GPU - I still remember my previous IT job ordering a bunch new and finding out the hard way about the inadequate graphics chip cooling. Dell made a new heatpipe cooler after so many complaints but parts of the laptop were literally melting from excess GPU heat, I want to say it was near the upper right corner of the touchpad. That's what happens though when Dell thinks a tiny sliver of metal covered with a cheap foam cooling pad is going to keep a gently caress-off hot GPU cooled off :downs:

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Ozz81 posted:

As long as it's not one of the old Dell Latitude 600 series laptops with the Quadro GPU - I still remember my previous IT job ordering a bunch new and finding out the hard way about the inadequate graphics chip cooling. Dell made a new heatpipe cooler after so many complaints but parts of the laptop were literally melting from excess GPU heat, I want to say it was near the upper right corner of the touchpad. That's what happens though when Dell thinks a tiny sliver of metal covered with a cheap foam cooling pad is going to keep a gently caress-off hot GPU cooled off :downs:

I have to deal with a D630 and it's actually that whole series of GPUs that's hosed up. Several other laptop manufacturers also had overheating problems with them.
Dell's solution was to push a BIOS update that kept the fan spinning.
I could get a board with Intel graphics, but there's software installed that requires a new key if hardware is changed.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

We have a couple of D630C "loaners" which will spin the cooling fan at max speed for 5-10 minutes after each boot.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Fo3 posted:

To make up for the derail about my laptop, SSS posted this in AI.
Nissan/Datsun used a plastic phonograph for car warnings/chimes in the late 70s/early 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJBko3-oV4

We didn't have chimes for Australian market cars (just warning lights, or buzzers at most), inc regular Japanese made cars sold here, so it was amazing seeing it.

It sounds like it's about to cry.

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe

Fo3 posted:

To make up for the derail about my laptop, SSS posted this in AI.
Nissan/Datsun used a plastic phonograph for car warnings/chimes in the late 70s/early 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJBko3-oV4

We didn't have chimes for Australian market cars (just warning lights, or buzzers at most), inc regular Japanese made cars sold here, so it was amazing seeing it.

These would make real good samples for an EDM song.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

mostlygray posted:


The OLPC project refused to consider logistics and that was it's downfall as far as I can see. I think they were over-focused on the do-gooder portion of the project.

This.

What's keeping poor African countries poor isn't a lack of laptops. It's massive corruption, no rule of law, lack of property rights, kleptocratic governments, and do-gooders who don't understand the other things. This complex set of socioeconomic factors isn't corrected by giving them cheap laptops.

If you can't do something, you can't do it with a computer.

Deedle
Oct 17, 2011
before you ask, yes I did inform the DMV of my condition and medication, and I passed the medical and psychological evaluation when I got my license. I've passed them every time I have gone to renew my license.

Jerry Cotton posted:

I see them all the time because they're not failed or obsolete.
Those tyre wall munching crap things have been obsolete since the affordable hub-mounted dynamo came to market in 1995.

Doesn't change the fact that far too many bicyclists don't have proper lights and retro reflectors on their bike.

Or worse, they only have a red one on the front.

Call me a oval office, but I can't be arsed to do more than avoid a collision with twats like that. gently caress your right of way, start by making sure people can see you.

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives
This is the only thread I know of that might be able to help me.

First, here's me as a kid pretending to be a Master Hacker


Now, here's the thing: What computer is that? I can't seem to find anything from a google image search of early PCs that would give me any sort of keyboard configuration like that, not to mention be straight up black.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

WeX Majors posted:

This is the only thread I know of that might be able to help me.

First, here's me as a kid pretending to be a Master Hacker


Now, here's the thing: What computer is that? I can't seem to find anything from a google image search of early PCs that would give me any sort of keyboard configuration like that, not to mention be straight up black.

Looks like a black Commodore B128 to me.

Deedle
Oct 17, 2011
before you ask, yes I did inform the DMV of my condition and medication, and I passed the medical and psychological evaluation when I got my license. I've passed them every time I have gone to renew my license.

WeX Majors posted:

This is the only thread I know of that might be able to help me.

First, here's me as a kid pretending to be a Master Hacker


Now, here's the thing: What computer is that? I can't seem to find anything from a google image search of early PCs that would give me any sort of keyboard configuration like that, not to mention be straight up black.
The colour scheme of the keyboard is one that I have only seen on Wang brand calculators and terminals.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Putting my chips on Amstrad of some kind

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

blugu64 posted:

Putting my chips on Amstrad of some kind

Same here, quick Google search led me to Amstrad CPC, there are a couple models that look near identical to what's behind Wex

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives
I can't deny that the Amstrad is pretty close. It's at the very least, the only one I've found so far that matches the weird rear end color scheme.

But it's not it.
Here's a CPC 664


The Enter Button is ginormous, and also helps to point out the lack of a column of standard-sized keys that stretches all the way back down to the Space Bar Row.
The numberpad has the correct amount of keys, but has the blue enter key which I don't have. I also don't have that arrow key configuration above the numpad, nor do I have a tape cartridge slot.

Also, the Amstrad line was mostly in the UK. Obviously it doesn't mean that a massive nerd like my dad wouldn't think of importing a PC to the States, but I doubt it.

So yea, what US PC had a funky colored keyboard, sometime between 1984 and 1988?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Well I'm adding that to the list of old computers I want because holy poo poo look at it

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I want to say it's some Franklin model but I'm probably wrong.

e: I guess I should've Binged first and posted later. The one I was thinking of had one red key, not loads of blue keys. Sorry.

0dB
Jan 3, 2009

WeX Majors posted:

This is the only thread I know of that might be able to help me.

First, here's me as a kid pretending to be a Master Hacker


Now, here's the thing: What computer is that? I can't seem to find anything from a google image search of early PCs that would give me any sort of keyboard configuration like that, not to mention be straight up black.

Who owned it? Where did they work? Did it come from their work?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

0dB posted:

Who owned it? Where did they work? Did it come from their work?

and what time period?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
And who cares?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Lady Naga posted:

And who cares?

People in this thread? Are you unable to read or something?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Lady Naga posted:

And who cares?

Good post in the so-called comedy world wide web site Something Awful's user forum thread about posting your favourite old tech.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
Yeah, where’s all the new old tech?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

WeX Majors posted:

the lack of a column of standard-sized keys that stretches all the way back down to the Space Bar Row.

I've read and re-read this but I still don't know what that means.

e: Oh you meant on the keyboard in the kid pic :doh:

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives
Probably my dad, I don't actually know where he was working back then so no idea if it came from there. We did end up with a lot of mysterious pieces over the years, but it was usually things like monitors, or whatever modems they were upgrading from. I thought I put down a timeframe, but JIC the picture is somewhere between 85-88.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqa76GUS5dw

Turns out, I was looking in the wrong direction, as it's not actually a PC. It's a Research Terminal!


More specifically, the Research Teleray 10 model. Here's one in the 80's favorite color


For people who might have been upset at me trying to learn something, I hereby gift the thread with a link to a copy of the August issue of ComputerWorld
https://books.google.com/books?id=Z4s8fil_zIIC&pg=PA64#v=onepage&q&f=false

1978.

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Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
I take it that for whatever reason you can't just ask him?

The non-standard keyboard layout leads me to think that it was industry-specific, or at the very least not a commercial product. The monitor looks like it has a brand name starting with at "T" so maybe a custom Toshiba product or Wikipedia also tells me Tadpole and Tatung are possibilities, though neither really seems to fit. Seems too long for Tandy.

What else can you tell us about the computer? What games did you play on it, did you play any games at all? What did the operating system look like?

You may also want to try Dave from Dave's Old Computers. http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.htm

-EDIT-

Or, you know, figure out the mystery over the half hour it too me to get around to hitting post and make me look like a moron for tossing out suggestions after the fact. Whatever works, really.

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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Yeah that's cool. I've never heard of teleray, or the http://terminals.classiccmp.org/ site. Also I liked the trip down amstrad lane.

E: that wiki for terminals is pretty cool, both from my computing history and spotting the manufacturer that I only know today due to electronics and electrics such as relays, but news to me they were in the computing game back then.

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WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives
It's okay Antifreeze, you introduced me to the glory that is Dave's Old Computers and his gloriously awful logo.
For that alone, your post was worth it.

Also, what I keep forgetting about because I was so focused on the keyboard, was the desk for the terminal itself: An old broken TV. Because of course.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



WeX Majors posted:

Probably my dad, I don't actually know where he was working back then so no idea if it came from there. We did end up with a lot of mysterious pieces over the years, but it was usually things like monitors, or whatever modems they were upgrading from. I thought I put down a timeframe, but JIC the picture is somewhere between 85-88.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqa76GUS5dw

Turns out, I was looking in the wrong direction, as it's not actually a PC. It's a Research Terminal!


More specifically, the Research Teleray 10 model. Here's one in the 80's favorite color


For people who might have been upset at me trying to learn something, I hereby gift the thread with a link to a copy of the August issue of ComputerWorld
https://books.google.com/books?id=Z4s8fil_zIIC&pg=PA64#v=onepage&q&f=false

1978.

Terminals are considered obsolete these days, outside of specific applications (usually hardware or auto parts stores with really old computer systems), and that's kind of a tragedy. They were really amazing in one important way: when you logged on at a terminal, even for the first time, all your poo poo was there. Because in the end, you were really just logging on to the same computer over a serial line. All your programs are there, your configurations are set up, your files are accessible.

Compare that to a modern Windows 7 enterprise setup like we have here at work. The only thing that carries over is your personal network folder. Sit down at a new computer and you have to configure Outlook again, re-map all your network drives, and if you need Visio, well, better put in a ticket! Even Linux has sort of degraded to this level, because we all carry around laptops and the closest thing we get to synchronization is a github repo with our dotfiles in it.

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