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poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Gropiemon posted:

Same result with the 2nd pair if you take out the original pair and just have the 2nd wonky pair installed?

nope, in that configuration it detects the correct size :spooky:

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Remora
Aug 15, 2010

How can you tell if your video card is worn out? Is that even a thing? I just feel like it's been really sluggish and posting really weirdly hot temperatures lately when I push it. It's like four years old, but it's still a pretty good card (Radeon HD 6950) and I don't want to replace it if I don't have to.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Remora posted:

How can you tell if your video card is worn out? Is that even a thing? I just feel like it's been really sluggish and posting really weirdly hot temperatures lately when I push it. It's like four years old, but it's still a pretty good card (Radeon HD 6950) and I don't want to replace it if I don't have to.
There's no such thing as being worn out, it's probably just getting warmer because it's dusty. Remove it from your system and use a canned air duster to thoroughly clean the card and make sure there are no dust bunnies inside the heatsink blocking airflow. While you're at it dust out the rest of the system with a canned air duster, paying special attention to the fans, heatsinks, and vents. Also make sure you have installed the latest Catalyst drivers from the AMD website.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

That was the first thing I did, actually, but I'll have another go.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Congrats, you're mining bitcoins for China

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva

FCKGW posted:

Congrats, you're mining bitcoins for China
That's definitely a possibility. Check for weird high CPU usage in task manager and make sure nothing looks odd there like having iehighutil running.

Other than that it's possible the fan(s) on the card died which you could check while it's running, and the thermal material between the GPU and the card's heatsink might need to be replaced after 4 years.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I've just added a new fan to my case (Corsair Carbide 200R) at the top bringing my total to 3: The new one at the top blowing outwards, rear exhaust and the front intake. As it was the only fan connector spare on Asus p8z77-v I plugged it into the power fan socket, it's running at 1500 rpm which I can't change through Asus' fan control software, I can adjust the other 2 and the cpu fan which is in the designated socket.

My question is, which of the three fans would be best suited to the power fan socket? Am I better running the intake as the faster fan?

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

NonzeroCircle posted:

I've just added a new fan to my case (Corsair Carbide 200R) at the top bringing my total to 3: The new one at the top blowing outwards, rear exhaust and the front intake. As it was the only fan connector spare on Asus p8z77-v I plugged it into the power fan socket, it's running at 1500 rpm which I can't change through Asus' fan control software, I can adjust the other 2 and the cpu fan which is in the designated socket.

My question is, which of the three fans would be best suited to the power fan socket? Am I better running the intake as the faster fan?
Your motherboard spec sheet says it has 1 CPU power connector, 3 chassis fan connectors, and an Optional fan connector, for a total of 5. I would expect that at least all three chassis fans are controllable, so do double-check you have the fan connected to the right port. If you really don't have the ability to control four fans, then connect whatever fan is the slowest (and thus quietest) to the full-speed connector.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
D'oh, turns out it's the LX I have so I only have 2 Chassis connectors, sorry for the misinformation: the PWR header appears to be only for PSU fans, and mine has one already integrated (Corsair CX600).
Would it's be better to get a splitter cable, or a proper fan controller like an NZXT Sentry? I appreciate if I go that route it won't work with Fan Xpert.
Max number of case fans I can see myself ever having is 4 (adding an intake to the bottom) depending on how the 3 fan configuration works. The fans are all Corsair 120mm, max 1500 rpm.

NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Sep 6, 2015

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



NonzeroCircle posted:

The PWR header appears to be only for PSU fans, and mine has one already integrated.

Just a quick question: What the gently caress is up with that anyway? Are there any PSUs out there that require external power for their fans? Or is it just an ancient relic that everyone is too afraid to get rid of like even modern CPUs booting into Real Mode?

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

NonzeroCircle posted:

D'oh, turns out it's the LX I have so I only have 2 Chassis connectors, sorry for the misinformation: the PWR header appears to be only for PSU fans, and mine has one already integrated (Corsair CX600).
Would it's be better to get a splitter cable, or a proper fan controller like an NZXT Sentry? I appreciate if I go that route it won't work with Fan Xpert.
Max number of case fans I can see myself ever having is 4 (adding an intake to the bottom) depending on how the 3 fan configuration works. The fans are all Corsair 120mm, max 1500 rpm.
You can't really use a splitter cable for fan control, because you can't get feedback for both cables. I'd either just pick an appropriate fan speed for one of the fans and connect it to the PWR FAN header with a low noise adapter, or yeah buy a separate fan controller. It's a bit late now, but quality-of-life features like enough fan headers and good fan control is why I strongly recommend buying decent quality motherboards. Cutting corners on the motherboard to save a few bucks is definitely a false economy.

Geemer posted:

Just a quick question: What the gently caress is up with that anyway? Are there any PSUs out there that require external power for their fans? Or is it just an ancient relic that everyone is too afraid to get rid of like even modern CPUs booting into Real Mode?
No PSUs required external power, when they started making dual-fan PSUs they just included a 3-pin connector for RPM monitoring only. I think back in the days before robust PSU protections (OverCurrent/OverTemp) and effective throttling due to overheating it was considered important to have the motherboard monitor fan speeds and system temperatures and throw an alarm or shut down if they got out of range.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Thanks for the advice Alereon, this was my first build and I put it together a couple years ago so didn't really take fan headers etc into consideration as I got a bundle from Dabs with mobo, CPU etc all included rather than picking discrete parts. Lesson learned for when I next upgrade! Will get myself a controller I think.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Is old thermal paste and dust enough to get my CPU to reach 70°C??

I hope that's my issue and is easy to fix.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

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Frijolero posted:

Is old thermal paste and dust enough to get my CPU to reach 70°C??

I hope that's my issue and is easy to fix.

It depends how much dust there is, but yeah. If the fins are caked up with dust they're not getting airflow across them.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Thanks!

I think I found my problem though. The heatsink was slightly detached. It seems to be running better now. Does anyone know of a good program to track my temperature? The Open Hardware one seems to register higher temperatures than it actually is.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Frijolero posted:

I think I found my problem though. The heatsink was slightly detached. It seems to be running better now. Does anyone know of a good program to track my temperature? The Open Hardware one seems to register higher temperatures than it actually is.
HWinfo64 is good for this. On Intel CPUs you're looking for the Package Temp, which is the temperature of the hottest core. I used to like RealTemp for Intel but it hasn't been updated for new CPUs in a long time, and CoreTemp was good for AMD, but it's malware now.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
I was looking to expand the storage space on my computer (it only has a Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB,) so I bought a Western Digital 2TB Black Hard Drive. I have the drive installed right now, and it's been initialized as GPT (the Samsung SSD has Windows 7 installed on it, so making the WD a MBR seemed like it wouldn't be a good idea.)

I'm at the point where I can partition and format the drive, but I'm not sure what I should do. My intent was to use the 2TB drive to store documents, videos, and music. However, I'm not sure how to do that. Do I assign it a drive letter, or do I mount it in an NTFS folder?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Max Wilco posted:

I was looking to expand the storage space on my computer (it only has a Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB,) so I bought a Western Digital 2TB Black Hard Drive. I have the drive installed right now, and it's been initialized as GPT (the Samsung SSD has Windows 7 installed on it, so making the WD a MBR seemed like it wouldn't be a good idea.)

I'm at the point where I can partition and format the drive, but I'm not sure what I should do. My intent was to use the 2TB drive to store documents, videos, and music. However, I'm not sure how to do that. Do I assign it a drive letter, or do I mount it in an NTFS folder?

The easiest way to do this in a failure resistant way is to give it it's own drive letter. Then in windows explorer you can make directories (folders) on it for whatever you want. If you like to use the windows Libraries (their default documents/photos/music/video things) you can link the folders on your second disk to them like:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Include-folders-in-a-library

I've never used the microsoft provided documents libraries so I just have my own folders on a secondary disk.

Standard warning here about making sure everything you actually want to keep is backed up so it exists in at least two places.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire
A friend and I are trying to find a good "starter" usb microphone for dabbling in making a podcast or similar nonsense- any recommendations? Ideally it would be multi-directional so we don't have to invest in two mics just to try out a new hobby.

I'm really not sure if this belongs in here or IYG - thought it couldn't hurt to ask here :shrug:

Poulpe fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Sep 14, 2015

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Try the home recording or the small questions thread in the musician's lounge or the pimp your podcast thread in rapidly going deaf.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

Flipperwaldt posted:

Try the home recording or the small questions thread in the musician's lounge or the pimp your podcast thread in rapidly going deaf.

Perfect, thanks!

Stealthgerbil
Dec 16, 2004


Anyone have suggestions for a decent HBA/raid card I can use for a JBOD setup? Its just for a media server so I don't need a fancy card. I just want something with two SFF-8087 ports and then an external SFF-8088 port so in the future I could purchase an external enclosure and add even more drives.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

What is the best way to wipe an SSD for resale?

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

IuniusBrutus posted:

What is the best way to wipe an SSD for resale?

Turn on TRIM and delete all of the files.

Many brands have a utility that you can do a "Secure erase" with.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

IuniusBrutus posted:

What is the best way to wipe an SSD for resale?
Format it, then write the drive's entire capacity with garbage data if you're really worried about things and it's too old to support TRIM.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Nintendo Kid posted:

Format it, then write the drive's entire capacity with garbage data if you're really worried about things and it's too old to support TRIM.

It's not the best idea entirely over the drive without knowing what model it is, though, that'll just reduce the lifespan of every cell. Unless it's some ancient relic, it should have a secure erase function.

IuniusBrutus posted:

What is the best way to wipe an SSD for resale?

So essentially, it depends on the model of the SSD.

Edit: come to think of it, there's a dedicated thread relating to SSDs, so you'll probably get the quickest and most relevant response there

HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 17, 2015

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

HalloKitty posted:

It's not the best idea entirely over the drive without knowing what model it is, though, that'll just reduce the lifespan of every cell.

Yeah, by one write cycle per cell, which is no big deal. Even some really old ones still handle like 50,000 cycles per cell.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

Thanks, I'll check there!

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



HalloKitty posted:

It's not the best idea entirely over the drive without knowing what model it is, though, that'll just reduce the lifespan of every cell. Unless it's some ancient relic, it should have a secure erase function.

What do you think secure erase does?

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Geemer posted:

What do you think secure erase does?

For some reason I thought it worked in the same way that whole drive encryption does: it throws away the key making the entire drive effectively garbage data. But maybe it doesn't, or maybe most drives don't handle the data in that way.

HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Sep 17, 2015

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

HalloKitty posted:

For some reason I thought it worked in the same way that whole drive encryption does: it throws away the key making the entire drive effectively garbage data. But maybe it doesn't, or maybe most drives don't handle the data in that way.

On a decent group of drives, it just tells the cells to write themselves full of 0s, thereby using a write cycle. For that matter deleting anything on a drive with TRIM enabled tends to do the same thing, once the recycle bin is emptied that is. You do that and your only hope of recovering your just deleted data is breaking out the very low level test equipment maybe, if the cell hasn't been purged yet.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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I'm attempting to install a Samsung 850 EVO as the primary drive on my wife's new laptop, but it is not going to well.

To start, the laptop is new with Windows 10. When I plug in the drive, it did not show up anywhere, and Samsung's data migration software could not find the disk. I then went into disk management to initialize the drive and still no dice. I then formatted the drive and assigned it a letter and the migration software STILL won't see the SSD. It's showing up as "ASMT 2115 SCSI disk device". I thought this was supposed to be very straight forward?

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Nintendo Kid posted:

On a decent group of drives, it just tells the cells to write themselves full of 0s, thereby using a write cycle. For that matter deleting anything on a drive with TRIM enabled tends to do the same thing, once the recycle bin is emptied that is. You do that and your only hope of recovering your just deleted data is breaking out the very low level test equipment maybe, if the cell hasn't been purged yet.
A Secure Erase does not write any data, it simply erases all cells that hold data and clears the blockmap, returning the drive to as-new state (except for the wear, but performance is back to new). In theory a Quick Format (on a TRIM-enabled drive and system) clears MOST flash cells aside from those holding the filesystem data structures. It does not clear the blockmap however, so does not restore performance on a drive that has lost performance due to misuse. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being pedantic, you'd be much closer to correct on a system with magnetic media, but it's very important to understand that flash cells do not hold data (even 0s) until they have been written to.

Auron posted:

I'm attempting to install a Samsung 850 EVO as the primary drive on my wife's new laptop, but it is not going to well.

To start, the laptop is new with Windows 10. When I plug in the drive, it did not show up anywhere, and Samsung's data migration software could not find the disk. I then went into disk management to initialize the drive and still no dice. I then formatted the drive and assigned it a letter and the migration software STILL won't see the SSD. It's showing up as "ASMT 2115 SCSI disk device". I thought this was supposed to be very straight forward?
I'd recommend posting a thread in the Haus of Tech Support including what laptop make and model you're trying to work on. There's likely a relatively easy solution, but will probably require some back-and-forth.

Alereon fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Sep 18, 2015

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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Auron posted:

I'm attempting to install a Samsung 850 EVO as the primary drive on my wife's new laptop, but it is not going to well.

To start, the laptop is new with Windows 10. When I plug in the drive, it did not show up anywhere, and Samsung's data migration software could not find the disk. I then went into disk management to initialize the drive and still no dice. I then formatted the drive and assigned it a letter and the migration software STILL won't see the SSD. It's showing up as "ASMT 2115 SCSI disk device". I thought this was supposed to be very straight forward?

Are you plugging it in externally, like USB or eSATA?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Wilford Cutlery posted:

Are you plugging it in externally, like USB or eSATA?

Externally through a USB 3.0 to SATA connection

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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KISS TITTIESS




Auron posted:

Externally through a USB 3.0 to SATA connection

That's why, because your adapter identifies as an ASMT device. I have something similar. Maybe try a different cloning tool, like Macrium Reflect?

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Nintendo Kid posted:

On a decent group of drives, it just tells the cells to write themselves full of 0s, thereby using a write cycle. For that matter deleting anything on a drive with TRIM enabled tends to do the same thing, once the recycle bin is emptied that is. You do that and your only hope of recovering your just deleted data is breaking out the very low level test equipment maybe, if the cell hasn't been purged yet.

Going around the hardware on an SSD in an effort to recover data marked as deleted is pretty much a fool's errand. With all the clever-as-gently caress block remapping and wear-levelling shenanigans, even if you get some data it's unlikely you'll know what cells to chain it to in order to get useful amounts of information out.

Subyng
May 4, 2013
Not sure if there is a better place to ask this question or if I should start a thread, but anyway,

I'm trying to build an instrument measurement and control system using LabVIEW. I have multiple instruments that communicate via serial port that I want to control from my laptop. Is it feasible to, using only a single USB port, hook up my DAQ to a USB hub, and then have usb-serial converters hooked up from my hub to my other instruments?

Umph
Apr 26, 2008

I built a new PC about 2 weeks ago. Today, I was cleaning and the surge protector became unplugged from the wall while the PC was on. When I attempted to turn it back on, it does not boot. No BIOS, the monitors do not get a signal sent, but the lights come on and the fans all spin up, and the hard drives spin up as well.

I have tried swapping in an old video card and have the same results, have tried swapping out the ram, swapped in a different power supply, and have tried each of the hard drives alone.

Does this make any sense? Could unplugging the surge protector have irreversibly damaged the motherboard or CPU? The power supply I was using was a really well reviewed Antec, plenty of wattage. What could cause the PC to not send a signal to the monitors? I can't actually verify that it isn't booting to bios, as I can't see. But, I have tried a different video card, AND tried the onboard video. Nothing works.

Have any of you heard of this? Is there anything I can do besides trying to exchange the MB at this point? Should I exchange the PSU too as it's already caused one MB to die? Could it be the CPU? It is a brand new PC and I really dont want it to be broken, but... power loss happens... i've never had a PC die like this.

If this is the wrong place, sorry- it doesn't seem like it would require a lot of troubleshooting as per the OP.

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Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Subyng posted:

Not sure if there is a better place to ask this question or if I should start a thread, but anyway,

I'm trying to build an instrument measurement and control system using LabVIEW. I have multiple instruments that communicate via serial port that I want to control from my laptop. Is it feasible to, using only a single USB port, hook up my DAQ to a USB hub, and then have usb-serial converters hooked up from my hub to my other instruments?

I don't know anything about the software or hardware you're using specifically, but generally this should work as long as the devices are normally okay with serial to USB bridges. It's really common in the micrcontroller world to hook stuff up with USB to serial converters to program and interact with the microcontrollers (most of which have serial interfaces). A USB controller is supposed to be able to handle 127 devices attached to it. The only thing may be that if the USB port is providing the power to the USB devices it may not have enough depending on how much each requires, since USB 2.0 ports are only specced for 500mA. A powered hub is always a good idea in a situation like that, since it will have its own wall transformer and provide power to the ports.

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