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Can someone explain to me the point of unconfirmed masons?
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Sep 14, 2015 18:44
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One thing I'd like to draw everyone's attention to. Lumpen has been saying all this time that content is great because then it can be analysed. In the last couple of pages there is a bunch of solid non-Content Game content that we can start looking at involving a number of different players. However, all Lumpen's done is defended himself and prodded the newbies for more. He's not actually doing any actual, you know, analysing.
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Sep 14, 2015 18:46
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Kashuno posted:Can someone explain to me the point of unconfirmed masons? There isn't one.
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Sep 14, 2015 18:47
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Kashuno posted:Can I invoke Madman's Law (TM) and claim the second vote on me is definitely scum? No because the basic premise of Madman's Law is that you have to pick a fight or be antagonistic in order to draw the votes. You haven't been attacking others to draw these votes.
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Sep 14, 2015 18:51
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Rarity posted:As I've already explained, in a newbie heavy game as you can lead the newbies around in any direction you wish. What reason do you think a town Lumpen would have for trying to get that level of influence? Rarity, what specifically are you accusing me of trying to do using my ~irresistible influence~? In what direction are you suggesting I have tried to lead the newbies? Please quote a post that supports whatever contention you come up with. Also, what would even be Scummy about attempting to set a positive example of play? The whole premise of your argument doesn't even make sense as a reason to vote someone out. Rarity posted:I think he's once again trying to control the narrative by portraying his lynch target in a certain light so that newbies get an impression based on that and not from actual posts.
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Sep 14, 2015 18:52
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Kashuno posted:Can someone explain to me the point of unconfirmed masons? Our MasonDoc is only a few lines long. Ernie has not responded there in a few days since I asked "will you tell me your flavor character name?"
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Sep 14, 2015 19:02
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Thanks. This is my first time seeing it and even after reading on the wiki about it I couldn't understand why that would exist.
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Sep 14, 2015 19:13
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Kashuno posted:Can someone explain to me the point of unconfirmed masons? Mod amusement 
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Sep 14, 2015 19:45
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Lumpen posted:That's adorable. Lumpen, this is rude. You asked the new players to post. Don't be condescending when they do.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:56
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Lumpen, this is rude. You asked the new players to post. Don't be condescending when they do. It hurts. Rarity posted:Hi, it's great to have you playing No one else has seemed suspicious to me yet other than the three I named. I see that Lumpen and Kashuno are posting a lot and not doing well to defend themselves, whereas your posting has me thinking that you're probably Town-aligned like me. The other people posting have not drawn my attention in any particular way. I'll point out that it's of course possible some of the other new people are Scum we haven't spotted and they're laying low, but I'm confident that the three I named are Scum. Of course if they kill me to shut me up, that's a flashing neon sign that says I was right, so I don't know how they're going to act.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:28
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People need to post more because there is probably scum within the three you listed but definitely not all three. Let's lynch lurkers.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:32
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Also I just want to throw this out there: Deadline is 1PM PST The only reason I'm saying it is because I hate people saying "whoa wow didn't realize deadline was midday." Now you do.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:34
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Kashuno posted:Also I just want to throw this out there: Oh my god I'm going to be around for deadline this never happens this is the best 
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Sep 14, 2015 21:36
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Rarity posted:Oh my god I'm going to be around for deadline this never happens this is the best DUDE IM GONNA BE AROUND ASWELL LETS GO
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Sep 14, 2015 21:42
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Who gave the Europeans all the power??????
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Sep 14, 2015 21:48
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Kashuno posted:Also I just want to throw this out there: On one hand, I totally want to make a snarky comment about this post. I'm not sure what it would it would actually say, but it would have been full of snark. On the other hand, I actually hadn't paid attention to the deadline and didn't realize it was tomorrow afternoon, so thanks for the post.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:51
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Chamale posted:Aaaaaaah! haha Lumpen posted:Our MasonDoc is only a few lines long. i work 7 days a week. sorry.that said, no. i don't feel like feeding into whatever silly opinion you have about the relevance/irrelevance of me having/not having or me saying/not saying what my flavor is. 
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Sep 14, 2015 21:58
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there are enough people saying they find hiipfire is suspicious for us to not seriously talk about it as opposed to talking in circles about lumpen
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Sep 14, 2015 21:59
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Chamale posted:Aaaaaaah! also this post is really put on like someone opened a 'How to have an Outburst for Dummies' book and just aped everything they read
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Sep 14, 2015 22:01
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Ernie. posted:i work 7 days a week. Ernie take some you time 
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Sep 14, 2015 22:04
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Votecount for Day 1  Lumpen (4): HiipFire, Opopanax, LowellDND, apostateCourier, Kashuno, Rarity, Kashuno (2): TMMadman, Opopanax HiipFire (1): Kashuno, Rarity (1): fiery_valkyrie, Lumpen, TMMadman (1): Captain Foo, imgay (0): apostateCourier, fiery_valkyrie (0): Ernie., LowellDND (0): Lumpen, Opopanax (0): Rarity, Not Voting (7): Acebuckeye13, apostateCourier, Colonel Corazon, imgay, Kashuno, Lumpen, Someone Awful!With 16 alive, it's 9 votes to lynch. The current deadline is September 15th, 2015 at 1 p.m. PDT -- that's in about 22 hours, 50 minutes.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:09
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Lumpen posted:(^full post history^) Generally I know who I'm playing with, so I can judge them by how they talk/act when faced with specific accusations. Obviously, this isn't the case here-I don't know anyone, I don't know how anyone usually acts, and the specifics of the format make it much more difficult to judge who's a bad liar and who isn't. So forgive me if I stay out of the opening discussion, since at this point I can't honestly judge any of it.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:11
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Ernie. posted:haha Your reluctance to answer my question leads me to infer that you are probably Nux. I find it kind of suspicious that you avoid saying it to me. I liked your post about HiipFire, but he's seemed more sincere than Rarity. She liked your post on HiipFire too, strangely enough since shes voting with him. HiipFire, I would love to hear some  from you about Rarity and Ernie.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:13
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Ernie. posted:there are enough people saying they find hiipfire is suspicious for us to not seriously talk about it as opposed to talking in circles about lumpen This post feels weird to me. I think we should be talking about Hiip, but it doesn't mean we should stop taming about Lumpen and that's what it feels like you're trying to imply. Ernie. posted:also this post is really put on Also, I don't like this post either. It doesn't seem like an outburst but what he believes. Plus there is a fatal flaw Chamales post because I think that guy is new and he doesn't seem to know that around here it seems like scum throw each other under the bus more often than they protect each other. Lumpen spent half of the Pearl game sniping at me despite both of us being scum there.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:13
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Lumpen, this is rude. You asked the new players to post. Don't be condescending when they do.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:15
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Generally I know who I'm playing with, so I can judge them by how they talk/act when faced with specific accusations. Obviously, this isn't the case here-I don't know anyone, I don't know how anyone usually acts, and the specifics of the format make it much more difficult to judge who's a bad liar and who isn't. So forgive me if I stay out of the opening discussion, since at this point I can't honestly judge any of it. Guys, can we all take a moment to appreciate how poo poo this post is? Acebuck, the only way to learn is to try.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:20
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Generally I know who I'm playing with, so I can judge them by how they talk/act when faced with specific accusations. Obviously, this isn't the case here-I don't know anyone, I don't know how anyone usually acts, and the specifics of the format make it much more difficult to judge who's a bad liar and who isn't. So forgive me if I stay out of the opening discussion, since at this point I can't honestly judge any of it. If you're Town, we aren't asking you to solve the game, just participate enough so that your good intentions can be recognized. If you're Scum, then it's totally understandable that you would excuse yourself like this.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:22
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Wow, even me and Lumpen can agree on something.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:23
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votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 What happens if we hit the deadline and don't have 9 votes on someone?
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Sep 14, 2015 22:25
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Rarity posted:Guys, can we all take a moment to appreciate how poo poo this post is? Seriously. Half of Mafia seems to be not being afraid to be wrong. So just step up to the plate and start swinging. Nobody is going to hold it against you for being wrong. Well, at least they won't hold it against you after the game is over. People might hold it against you during the actual game if you are wrong too often. But that still shouldn't stop you from expressing any thoughts or opinions.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:25
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LowellDND posted:What happens if we hit the deadline and don't have 9 votes on someone? Then there is no lynch. It's generally seen as a bad thing and people will usually be around at the deadline to make sure it doesn't happen.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:26
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TMMadman posted:Seriously. Half of Mafia seems to be not being afraid to be wrong. So just step up to the plate and start swinging. Nobody is going to hold it against you for being wrong. One thing I think hampers town in way too many games is that townies end up being primarily motivated by fear rather than victory. Too many of us care more about survival than we do about making sure town wins at the end of the game and that leads us to hold back.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:32
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LowellDND posted:What happens if we hit the deadline and don't have 9 votes on someone? Questions left unasked, suspicions left unexplored, may be silenced forever by the nightkill. Talk talk talk. D1 is the most productive day of the game.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:34
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Lumpen, are you making flavour cases?
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Sep 14, 2015 22:41
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Lumpen posted:That is not very nice to your Mason. I am Capable, one of Immortan Joe's wives, and my PM says I was convinced to leave by Angharad, and I befriended a warboy. see, the minute i got my role pm and knew i was a mason, i knew who you were. i don't get why you couldn't arrive at the conclusion privately and then do the logical thing of determining my alignment independently. this whole act about pretending like asking pointless questions is valuable is an annoying meta gimmick. TMMadman posted:This post feels weird to me. I think we should be talking about Hiip, but it doesn't mean we should stop taming about Lumpen and that's what it feels like you're trying to imply. yes, because what i meant by my post is "LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT LUMPEN AT ALL" that's not even close to a second grade reading level comprehension  TMMadman posted:Also, I don't like this post either. It doesn't seem like an outburst but what he believes. Plus there is a fatal flaw Chamales post because I think that guy is new and he doesn't seem to know that around here it seems like scum throw each other under the bus more often than they protect each other. Lumpen spent half of the Pearl game sniping at me despite both of us being scum there. im suspicious of you motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know you're not trustworthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and you're trying to lead the new people around by the nose and distract them from yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not going to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 14, 2015 22:50
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opop give me a hot take
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Sep 14, 2015 22:50
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Rarity posted:One thing I think hampers town in way too many games is that townies end up being primarily motivated by fear rather than victory. Too many of us care more about survival than we do about making sure town wins at the end of the game and that leads us to hold back. Which is ironic when you consider that most of the time the N1 kill is usually the person who hadn't put forth any kind of strong opinion. So really, talking and stating opinions is the only real way to care about your own survival. Don't be afraid to talk or be wrong because we all actually suck at Mafia. We just pretend to be good at it for our own egos.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:52
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Ernie. posted:opop give me a hot take I don't know what that is but ok 
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Sep 14, 2015 22:56
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Opopanax posted:I don't know what that is but ok oh you~
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Sep 14, 2015 22:57
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i swear to god if you flip scum after that interaction i will move west just to scream at you 
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Sep 14, 2015 22:57
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