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I think going for lower price point stuff is definitely a good idea for getting people into the Scotch game. Scotch isn't a particularly cheap investment as it is. Blends: Johnnie Walker Black Torn on ease of access/quality for a second blended More Mild: Balvenie 12 Double Wood (excellent intro) Glenlivet 12 (good quality vs. accessibility) Springbank 10 Aberlour 12 Peat/Smoke: Highland Park 12 Laphroaig Quarter Cask Ardbeg 10 Lagavulin 16
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 19:03 |
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Where is Lagavulin 16 "lower price point"? Unless I'm in Costco - it's $80-100
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 19:11 |
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I wouldn't place Highland Park in with the smoky/peaty category so much. I'd replace it with Talisker.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 19:17 |
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Deceptive Thinker posted:Where is Lagavulin 16 "lower price point"? Anything over ~$50 should be relegated to a secondary "try this next" option.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 21:49 |
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Nill posted:I don't think anyone realized that the suggestions needed to be corroborated. vv Yeah, it's a can of worms. spankmeister posted:I wouldn't place Highland Park in with the smoky/peaty category so much. I'd replace it with Talisker. Good point, it doesn't really belong with milds either. I think it's a good, middle of everything, Scotch; which for some reason isn't sold here anymore. I made some minor changes. Lets do something easier, how about some Irish Whiskey recs?
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 08:17 |
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I already made some! e: Green Spot. (A number 1) Bushmills single malt, the 10yo or better still the 16yo ($$) Knappogue Castle spankmeister fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Does Whistle Pig count as Canadian whisky even though it's just the distillation performed in Canada? I honestly don't think Canadian whisky is worth mentioning otherwise...Not a fan of any of the other small distillers. Alberta Premium is about the closest thing to a good Canadian rye whisky.
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 09:05 |
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kidsafe posted:Does Whistle Pig count as Canadian whisky even though it's just the distillation performed in Canada? I honestly don't think Canadian whisky is worth mentioning otherwise...Not a fan of any of the other small distillers. Alberta Premium is about the closest thing to a good Canadian rye whisky. It's a grey area but I'd just make a "rye" category and put it in there along with the American ryes. The style of Canadian whiskey is very different from American whiskey so that definitely should be in a different category. (the boring as gently caress category ) spankmeister fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Yeah, I was mostly questioning the need to even have the Canadian category on the front page..it's currently got a placeholder. I'd much rather have a "rest of world" category with Yamazaki, Amrut, Kavalan, etc.
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 10:36 |
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yeah theres canadian club, seagrams, black velvet, crown royal and then ??? Forty Creek is maybe the only decent one. Alberta premium might be worth mentioning but the other ones are just so dull
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 12:04 |
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40 creek has some pretty decent stuff. As is collingwood. As well there are really good smaller producers of good whiskey in Canada but I doubt you could get em in the states (66 Gilead,Dillon etc.)
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 16:40 |
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Nth Doctor posted:Anyone else have a love for Bushmill's Black Bush? Irish love.
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# ? Sep 13, 2015 18:38 |
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spankmeister posted:I already made some! Is this stuff widely available? Can't buy any of it where I live. The 10y maybe. I'm happy to add Bushmills to the OP. To give you an idea, my local liquor store has at least four long rows of American whiskey, two rows of Scotch, and about 2 feet of Irish Whiskey. kidsafe posted:Yeah, I was mostly questioning the need to even have the Canadian category on the front page..it's currently got a placeholder. I'd much rather have a "rest of world" category with Yamazaki, Amrut, Kavalan, etc. The OP recs are just to answer the question ... 'I want to try whiskey, what should I buy?' So we don't have to keep answering it every three pages. That's also why I wanted to whittle down the recommendations, especially the bourbons. If someone wants to explore Japanese whisky that is definitely something we want to discuss in thread, no need for a list. The Canadian section is intentionally blank, an unfunny joke I guess.
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 04:35 |
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Green spot should be globally available and has been a well known Irish whiskey for years. Your liquor store might not carry it but thats no reason not to add it to the op. Besides, people can order online these days. Knappogue Castle is much more obscure so you could scratch that. But every Irish whiskey drinker should try Green Spot imo.
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 09:05 |
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I rarely see green spot at most US liquor stores. I've seen it much more frequently in Europe.
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 12:18 |
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For what it's worth, it's available enough that I can get it at costco, while I'm sure it you couldn't find it in most liquor/groceries where I grew up because I think their selection of irish whiskey was basically just jameson
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 13:44 |
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And lets be fair and not let the recommendations be solely dependent on wide availability in North America.
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 13:48 |
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Conversely there's a lot of bourbon and rye and stuff that's not readily available in Europe. I rarely see Basil Hayden, Weller's or Eagle Rare for example. e: in fact, most of the bourbons in the op are not readily available to me. Wild Turkey 101 Old Grand-Dad 100 Russell's Reserve Rare Breed These are all not trivial to get. e: actually woodford is okay spankmeister fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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spankmeister posted:Conversely there's a lot of bourbon and rye and stuff that's not readily available in Europe. Yeah, when I lived in Germany, good bourbon was hard to find. I think in all of northern Germany, there was like one store that had a decent selection. Ironically, now that I live in DC, I complain about having to fly to Kentucky to get stuff that's not really shipped far from state :/
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 14:25 |
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Lagavulin 16 is on sale at bay area costcos for $55! Just picked up 2 bottles, great price for a great drink.
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 19:17 |
wormil posted:
Red Breast 12
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 19:44 |
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Redbreast (cask strength for $$) Green Spot Teeling (really like recommending these guys. They're one of the few independent distilleries in Ireland and everything they've put out so far has been quality stuff)
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 20:57 |
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Yeah, also redbreast Cask Strength is better than the 15, and about the same price...
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# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:18 |
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I'm looking for recommendations. I like Woodford reserve, and I bought a bottle of buffalo trace and it's just too sweet. I love smoke, earthy flavors. I also like things with a significant burn. I don't like sweetness in my liquor. My budget is 30-50 bucks. Any suggestions?
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 02:39 |
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Four roses single barrel
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 03:05 |
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Deceptive Thinker posted:Four roses single barrel Yeah basically this is the greatest
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 04:38 |
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For Canadian, I'll second the Wiser's Legacy (and even Small Batch for a cheap sipping whisky). I would also like to add Forty Creek Copper Pot. It's a step up from the basic Forty Creek, and it has a nice chocolate and velvet texture. Would've recommended Canadian Club Sherry Cask, but I only had it when I was first starting out, and haven't had it since then. I also can't find it anymore to compare.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 15:26 |
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spankmeister posted:Besides, people can order online these days. Some people can order online. And btw, I didn't say I wouldn't add Green Spot but since it isn't available here I had to ask if it is in fact widely available. So I added it, you can settle down now. Have some bourbon, this Irish whiskey is getting you too riled up. You'd think this was the tequila thread, jeebus.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 05:20 |
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I have Opinions about Whisky Availability nah im cool dont worry about it
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 07:37 |
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Deceptive Thinker posted:Four roses single barrel I don't know if this is the best bourbon, but it's my favorite one I've had.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 03:33 |
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:I don't know if this is the best bourbon, but it's my favorite one I've had. It's definitely "one of the best" for sure I'm so excited about the Limited Edition Small Batch coming out in the next few weeks/month - just hoping I can manage to snag a few bottles
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 04:14 |
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:I don't know if this is the best bourbon, but it's my favorite one I've had. It's the best mid-high end bourbon that anyone can buy at the local bottle shop IMO.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 05:53 |
So I got to go to a small whiskey tasting at work yesterday, which was nice. There was a rum barrel rye (the guy running it, their group apparently buys barrels sometimes and gets this done), Pappy, and Whistlepig, and of the three, honestly, I liked Whistlepig the most. I guess I like more traditional ryes? The rum scent and initial taste kinda threw me off of the first one.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 15:32 |
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Whistle Pig is oddly mellow for a 100% straight rye. That's the reason I like it so much. The same applies to Jefferson's, which comes from the same distillery.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 23:30 |
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Highland Park 12.. I love the mix of flavors this one has, and just how smooth it is. It may be one of the perfect introductory Scotches. I know o (and have drank!) many of the much peatier Islays and enjoy them just as well, but I don't get the same craving I do for HP12. Are there any other more complex, more intriguing offerings that has a similar mixed flavor profile? Other than HP18 of course; that one's on the hitlist but is simply too expensive as it stands. My spirits collection at home is weak. Finished the HP12, so now I'm left with Woodford Reserve and Laphroaig 10. I think that I am more of a scotch person. Even with ice, Woodford just tastes young and harsh to me. I would like to try Double Oaked some day. I had trouble distinguishing the nuances of it compared to, say, Evan Williams. Whereas with my first sips of HP12, the differences between that, Laphroaig, Macallan, and lesser tier offerings were immediately apparent. Don't shoot me for saying that, I'd be the first to admit that my palate is not refined too well is all. Next I'll try Knob Creek or perhaps Woodford Rye at a bar.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 06:16 |
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The differences between Laphroaig, Macallan, and HP12 are pretty drastic compared to any two bourbons.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 06:40 |
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Yup! I guess that's why I like Scotch more, a lot of different flavor profiles and regions really makes for some fun note-taking and debate. Not to say Woodford was trash though. It was certainly pleasant, but it was much more difficult for me to parse the complexities from. Perhaps it'll take more time for me to come around to it. Reading about Double Oaked makes it seem more up my alley.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 06:54 |
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Cromlech posted:Are there any other more complex, more intriguing offerings that has a similar mixed flavor profile? Talisker Dark Storm is kinda similar, much more smoky though.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 11:56 |
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Cromlech posted:Perhaps it'll take more time for me to come around to it. Reading about Double Oaked makes it seem more up my alley. I love Double Oaked at its price point
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Weller 107 has been my favorite since I got into bourbon and it's been nearly impossible to find since folks caught on to how good it is. I've been wait listed for several months and finally got a couple bottles in this afternoon. So good, so happy.
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