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 Doctor Who is returning after a nine-month hibernation with a 12 (  ) episode series plus one Christmas special. What's happening this series? Well, Maisie Williams is making an appearance in some episode, playing an unknown character. The Master is returning for at least one episode this series. River Song will return at Christmas. The Doctor will wear sunglasses on occasion. As has become the standard for TVIV's most popular shows, the thread-per-episode era is a thing of the past. We're using this one until 2016!The regular series runs weekly from 19 September to 5 December, with a special on Christmas Day: 1) The Magician's Apprentice 2) The Witch's Familiar 3) Under the Lake 4) Before the Flood 5) The Girl Who Died 6) The Woman Who Lived 7) The Zygon Invasion 8) The Zygon Inversion 9) Sleep No More 10) Face the Raven 11) Heaven Sent 12) Hell Bent 13) The Husbands of River Song The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities. NO SPOILERS By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if Queen Elizabeth II, Barack Obama, and Vladimir Putin have a three-way press conference on every channel to reveal life on Mars and also that Martha Jones is a Rutan, DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does. As soon as the episode airs on BBC One, though, the gloves come off. If you're not watching the episode as it is broadcast first on BBC One, do not come into this thread acting like you won't find out Missy is the Master. Even though it won't air in your nation for a few hours, it is a British show after all, and they get the right to talk about the show while the people who pay the licensing fees watch it. WHERE DO I START? If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The Eleventh Hour. This doesn't mean to disregard the 9th and 10th Doctor's stories, but it's the easiest way to get caught up. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes. The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO ON TELEVISION? Original Series: UK - Drama, Horror USA - Retro TV, some PBS stations, BBC America (Tom Baker era only) Canada - you're out of luck Australia - Syfy Current Series: UK - BBC One (first run), BBC Three, Watch USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations, Disney XD (Tennant era only) Canada - Space Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC2, BBC UKTV, Syfy WHERE CAN I STREAM DOCTOR WHO? Netflix has the current series in its entirety and selected original series episodes. If you're in the United States, Hulu Plus has 413 original series episodes up, and I'm not going to go in-depth about the ones they don't have. SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU RAYS? Just for the bonus features alone. A BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people possibly like Minuet in Hell, but I doubt it). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread. Monthly range Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 205th(!) release next month. The Fourth Doctor Adventures Tom Baker gets his own line of releases. The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield Sylvester McCoy plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introdcued in the Virign New Adventures line of books. The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em. The War Doctor Holy cow, Big Finish got John Hurt? You bet they did, and the Time War is heard for what might be the only time. The Tenth Doctor Adventures In slightly less astounding news, Big Finish got David Tennant and Catherine Tate to reprise their characters. Considering they are both in the prime of their careers, this range may not be regular. The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures This is important: THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles usually feature just one actor, while the Early Adventures feature small casts. Spinoffs There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series). WHAT ABOUT THE RATINGS OF THE SHOW? Doctor Who isn't getting cancelled again any time soon, so don't you worry your pretty little head. Here's what I guess the Magician's Apprentice ratings will be after crunching some numbers: UK: A bunch of people watched it USA: A bunch of people watched it Canada: A bunch of people watched it Australia: A bunch of people watched it And finally, and I know this is hard to believe, this marks the first time a Doctor Who episode has debuted on 19 September. Less than 36 hours to go! Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Obligatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Q0hlu1qt4
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Sep 18, 2015 09:16
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Well, guess we're opening this thread with a confirmation. Jenna Coleman's leaving. It'll be a shame, but I think that she's had a good run. Plus, leaves the door wide open for Shona to be here next season.
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Sep 18, 2015 09:24
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CobiWann posted:Hmmm. New thread. That's weird. I don't like it. 
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Sep 18, 2015 09:30
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CobiWann posted:Hmmm. New thread. That's weird. I always drrrreeeeezzzz for the occasion.
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Sep 18, 2015 09:38
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Just in time. I've just started a brief marathon of the most recent episodes starting from Name of the Doctor. It's a good thing there are no bad episodes after that point. Going to be a great weekend.
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Sep 18, 2015 09:53
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Cleretic posted:Well, guess we're opening this thread with a confirmation. Jenna Coleman's leaving. It'll be a shame, but I think that she's had a good run. I'll miss Clara, but man I would love to see Shona become the new companion.
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Sep 18, 2015 10:01
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Jerusalem posted:I'll miss Clara, but man I would love to see Shona become the new companion. Shona would be great, but I wouldn't mind Rigsy either. Been a while since the Doctor had a long-term male companion (Turlough?).
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Sep 18, 2015 10:54
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CobiWann posted:Shona would be great, but I wouldn't mind Rigsy either. Been a while since the Doctor had a long-term male companion (Turlough?). Rory Anyway, so it's 100% agreed (and therefore confirmed) then - Rigsy and Shona for the new male/female companions!
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Sep 18, 2015 10:57
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BSam posted:Just in time. I've just started a brief marathon of the most recent episodes starting from Name of the Doctor. It's a good thing there are no bad episodes after that point. Going to be a great weekend. In the Forest of the Night.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:01
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CobiWann posted:Shona would be great, but I wouldn't mind Rigsy either. Been a while since the Doctor had a long-term male companion (Turlough?). Rigsy and Shona please.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:13
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The_Doctor posted:Rigsy and Shona please. I would be very down for this.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:24
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Jerusalem posted:Rory Wow. How the hell did I forget about this? *looks at his arm* Where did these black slash marks come from? *remembers Wednesday’s GOP debate* *draws on his arm again*
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Sep 18, 2015 11:38
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CobiWann posted:
I like that Doctor Who villains aren't as transparently evil as Trump.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:49
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I like new thread. New threads are cool!
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Sep 18, 2015 11:56
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The_Doctor posted:I like that Doctor Who villains aren't as transparently evil as Trump. I don’t think he’s evil…just egotistical, full of himself, successful, and knows just enough not to know that he knows nothing at all. Which, as Doctor Who has shown us, can be worse than being evil.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:56
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Sep 18, 2015 12:15
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There's a new 6 minute prequel, 'The Doctor's Meditation', up on the Facebook page. No sign of it on the iPlayer yet.
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Sep 18, 2015 12:32
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:There's a new 6 minute prequel, 'The Doctor's Meditation', up on the Facebook page. No sign of it on the iPlayer yet. I don't suppose you could link it, because I don't see it anywhere on the Facebook page. edit: And Google just gives me a bunch of places it was leaked but taken down from.
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Sep 18, 2015 12:56
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It's on the facebook page as of forty-five minutes ago. Not sure why you can't see it. You're not missing much. It's singularly uninteresting.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:00
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Barry Foster posted:It's on the facebook page as of forty-five minutes ago. Not sure why you can't see it. Again, could you link it or something? I see it nowhere on the Facebook page, even under videos the latest videos are a trailer, an interview with Moffat, and something about Lego.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:02
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thrawn527 posted:Again, could you link it or something? I see it nowhere on the Facebook page, even under videos the latest videos are a trailer, an interview with Moffat, and something about Lego. Here you go, if you can't see it from this link maybe it's country-locked or something?
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Sep 18, 2015 13:06
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Here you go, if you can't see it from this link maybe it's country-locked or something? Content not found. So yeah, I guess it's country blocked.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:14
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thrawn527 posted:Content not found. So yeah, I guess it's country blocked. Like Barry Foster said, you're not missing a great deal. It's mostly comedy or ambiguous comments in a manner akin to the previous prequel.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:43
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CaptainYesterday posted:This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people possibly like Minuet in Hell, but I doubt it). Oh, you fool. You poor, deluded fool. Doctor Who : The DiscContinuity Guide posted:Oh, what fun! McGann's first Big Finish season closes on a big (and long!) story with a great script and the Brigadier on top form. Despite an American and a Canadian in the cast some dodgy accents feature, but with an imaginative setting and some stand-out scenes (Marchosias using Becky-Lee's powers to kill Pargeter, Crane 'testing' the Doctor's memories, the Brigadier's 'collapse'), 'Minuet' is hellishly good. If the 'join' sometimes shows between the story's two authors, it doesn't really matter. It's a shame the (real) Doctor isn't in it more, but it would be a treat to hear Gideon again. Eddy Wolverson posted:“Minuet in Hell” is an epic end to McGann’s first season. ... The supporting characters, Pickering and Becky Lee are both excellent, though I’m sure American fans won’t appreciate the over the top accents! Some of the scenes, in particular those featuring both Becky Lee and Charley in the Hellfire club are quite sexual for Doctor Who, though Lear and Russell don’t go as far as John Peel does, for example, in his “Timewyrm: Genesys” novel. Anyhow, I’m certainly not complaining - I think it works very well in the context of the story, but I can see that Big Finish might rub some more traditional fans the wrong way with this kind of thing ... The high point of the season – very nearly first class, but it still feels like there is a little way to go before Big Finish strike gold with their eighth Doctor and Charley combination. Richard Radcliffe posted:Paul McGann's last Audio Adventure (until Jan 2002) is the most Thriller like story Big Finish have produced so far. At 130 minutes it also is one of the longest (I think only Holy Terror comes close). But do the Episodes drag? Not at all - there is enough story here for a story twice that length. ... The setting of the story also provides much. The new state of Malebolgia comes across as a warped, slightly futuristic vision of Southern USA. With its over the top, extreme Senator and Evangelist, this is definitely an America of Fiction - at least I hope it is! There is also a fair helping of Buffy the Vampire Slayer thrown in for good measure in the form of Becky Lee - Charleys mate throughout. The demons that appear are also Buffy territory - some wonderful lines uttered here by the main Demon. So much then to digest. So much to take on board for the listener. ... Yet it all comes together very well. It is unlike any Doctor Who story that I can think of. ... Definitely one of the best, and full of wonders for all. 9/10 Simon Catlow posted:
Every opinion, no matter how incomprehensible, is held by someone.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:44
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The Discontinuity Guide gives a good review to Delta and the Bannermen, clearly not to be trusted
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Sep 18, 2015 13:48
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The Discontinuity Guide also says that episode 13 of Trial of a Timelord is "a masterpiece", and episode 14 achieves "near greatness". These statements are completely unacceptable and I await a full apology from the authors.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:54
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For Atlantis-Watchers, The Underwater Menace features it again!
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Sep 18, 2015 13:54
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The DiscContinuity Guide is its own brand of crazy, related only by title to that accursed tome.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:58
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After The War posted:The DiscContinuity Guide is its own brand of crazy, related only by title to that accursed tome. Oh right
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Sep 18, 2015 14:02
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Episode 14 is really exceptionally good for something that was written in five days with literal lawyers crawling all over it to make sure it didn't look anything like the Holmes/Saward draft. There are many excellent reasons to hate on PipnJane, but that they wrote 30 minutes of vaguely coherent television without any prior warning and prevented a show-killing failure to deliver a full series of episodes; that's worth some little recognition.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:04
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Trin Tragula posted:Episode 14 is really exceptionally good for something that was written in five days with literal lawyers crawling all over it to make sure it didn't look anything like the Holmes/Saward draft. There are many excellent reasons to hate on PipnJane, but that they wrote 30 minutes of vaguely coherent television without any prior warning and prevented a show-killing failure to deliver a full series of episodes; that's worth some little recognition. Sometimes it’s a near miracle that this blessed franchise, this show, this island, this Doctor Who has managed survive as long as it has.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:18
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I don't think episode 14 is exceptionally good in any respect. Yes, it was done in a few days based on location photos and with no knowledge of the existing script. It's still an unsatisfying conclusion to a season-long mystery. The dialogue is still the usual P&J rubbish. It was crap TV then, it's crap TV now and I genuinely think that (barring some sort of nightmarish archive calamity in the future where the only surviving recorded footage of anything is Trial of a Timelord) it will always be seen as crap TV. But sure, they knocked it out pretty quickly, although I suspect the final script wouldn't have been much better even if they'd had a couple of months to work on it. (And if they didn't want to kill the show by failing to deliver a full series of episodes, then they could always have, say, filmed the script they already had for episode 14, despite JNT's reservations.) Let's not depress ourselves with too much in-depth P & J Baker analysis this close to a new season of the show, though!
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Sep 18, 2015 14:28
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You know, of all the bad Doctor Who I have experienced... when I first was going through the McGann audios, I skipped over Minuet In Hell because I had heard such bad things about it. I think I've seen and heard enough terrible Doctor Who to handle Malebogia and pretty little satin bottoms now.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:48
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CobiWann posted:I don’t think he’s evil…just egotistical, full of himself, successful, and knows just enough not to know that he knows nothing at all. Yeah, but there's just... something about him. I don't know. When I look at him there's just this sound in my head...
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Sep 18, 2015 14:54
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Neddy Seagoon posted:In the Forest of the Night. Yup, looking forward to that one.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:55
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Re: PJ-chat, episode 13 is pretty alright compared to the rest of the Trial on its own, it's just tarnished a fair bit by the next ep. It's not Holmes at his best, to be sure, but it's still basically competent Doctor Who.
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Delta and the Bannermen is a mostly funny, mostly good serial.
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