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Gimmedaroot posted:That is pretty much last year's setlist, with the exception of the addition of Easy Money, The Court of the Crimson King, and Epitaph. That's because they played two tracks from Scarcity of Miracles, which were better than the album. Last year's US tour was loving mind blowing. They weren't as tight as the Thrak show I saw in 95, but they had been playing together for over a year at that point as well. Last year they were still in the first month of their tour, but it was still amazing. The 2008 brief tour proved it was time to turn the page on the Belew years. The current lineup has mellotrons, and the third time seeing drummer/keyboardist Bill Reiflin after seeing him in Ministry and REM in the 90s. I saw King Crimson on their Thrak tour and it was sick. I remember being blown away as I was expecting to hear a good chunk of older material mixed in with a bit of stuff from the new album like you would expect to hear from most bands their age. But aside form Larks pt. 2, The Talking Drum and Red, there was nothing from before 1981. It was all Belew era King Crimson and it was all pretty heavy stuff. You could tell they were just as influenced by prog metal bands like Tool as prog metal bands like Tool were influenced by them. quote:As for ABWH, seeing that show was worth it because I was getting into KC at the same time...must have been because of that Bruford guy I liked so much. I remembered thinking: "wait, Yes?? As in, the "Owner of a Lonely Band"? That song was worn out in the 80s, and to hear Close to the Edge for the first time, from ABWH live, was incredible to say the least. And with Tony Levin from KC on bass? If you gotta replace Squire, Levin is hard to argue against. Yes really missed an opportunity with Union. Sure the album was a bit of a disappointment, but it really wasn't that bad. And, really who cares about the album, it's the tour that everyone wanted to see, and that kicked all sorts of rear end. They were selling out really large venues and people were really taking notice of them again. There was a real momentum there. They had the opportunity to follow it up with something great and do another kickass tour, but they futzed around releasing cash grabs like the box set "Yesyears" and "Symphonic Music of Yes" before finally breaking up in 1994. Yes had lost all the steam and momentum they had built up with Union and had fallen apart. Yes was never that popular again. And it's too bad because "Talk" was actually a drat good album. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Look who showed up to the first UK KC concert... pic courtesy of TL.
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# ? Sep 2, 2015 01:09 |
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No photo proof, but apparently Kate Bush was there as well!
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# ? Sep 2, 2015 01:33 |
Man, KC haven't played In The Court of the Crimson King since 1971? drat, I had no idea
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SgtScruffy posted:Man, KC haven't played In The Court of the Crimson King since 1971? drat, I had no idea Didn't they play it with Boz on vox in 1972?
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# ? Sep 2, 2015 01:50 |
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The Ladies of the Road set has a snippet of "In the Court" played as blues - quite interesting. May have been done as a joke though
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There is now an official Progressive Rock Album Chart in the UK! Here's the very first one: 1.Tame Impala - Currents 2.Muse - Drones 3.Roger Waters - Amused To Death 4.Joe Satriani - Shockwave Supernova 5.Public Service Broadcasting - The Race For Space 6.Faith No More - Sol Invictus 7.Symphony X - Underworld 8.Pink Floyd - The Endless River 9.Tim Bowness - Stupid Things That Mean The World 10.Nightwish - Endless Forms Most Beautiful They also compiled a chart for "Progressive Album Chart of the 21st Century": 1.Muse - Black Holes & Revelations 2.Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of the Moon 3.Radiohead - OK Computer 4.Kate Bush - Aerial 5.Jeff Wayne - The War Of The Worlds 6.Air - Moon Safari 7.Sigur Ros - Takk 8.Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells 9.Genesis - Selling England By The Pound 10.Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots I am not sure why Air is there for Prog Rock? or Sigur Ros?
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DaWolfey posted:3.Roger Waters - Amused To Death What? Did this just get rereleased or someting? Also quote:1.Muse - Black Holes & Revelations That had better be an overall sales chart from the last 15 years, or else 1. Okay 2. Are you kidding me 3. 90s as hell 4. Sure 5. Get hosed 6. So 90s it's wearing airwalks and jncos 7. Reasonable 8. Noooooooope 9. Double nooooooooope 10. Soft Bulletin was better quote:I am not sure why Air is there for Prog Rock? or Sigur Ros? Eh. People don't mind Tangerine Dream, Mike Oldfield or other outliers being part of the discussion, these are the modern equivalents. I feel Sigur Ros could definitely be argued for straight-up inclusion in the genre, alongside post-rock acts like GYBE and EITS.
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Post Rock is probably the closest thing that you could call "modern prog rock" when you compare it to a lot of the other stuff that gets the label nowadays.
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Allen Wren posted:What? Did this just get rereleased or someting? I have a feeling they're including re-masters that came out recently in that list. Yeah it's lovely, but it sells.
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Gianthogweed posted:I have a feeling they're including re-masters that came out recently in that list. Yeah it's lovely, but it sells. Remasters, gently caress, right. I'm an idiot.
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Well, I think the most important question to ask since they're doing "Easy Money" now is...does Jakko sing the infamous alternate second verse? I've listened to so many live gigs that it throws me when I listen to the recorded version.
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Gianthogweed posted:Post Rock is probably the closest thing that you could call "modern prog rock" when you compare it to a lot of the other stuff that gets the label nowadays. I don't think post-rock has the same level of technicality and compositional density as golden-age prog. With the mathier stuff like Oceansize you could maybe make that argument, but they've got very different approaches.
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Allen Wren posted:Eh. People don't mind Tangerine Dream, Mike Oldfield or other outliers being part of the discussion, these are the modern equivalents. I feel Sigur Ros could definitely be argued for straight-up inclusion in the genre, alongside post-rock acts like GYBE and EITS. Sigur Ros - totally agree, in fact a lot of what is currently called "post rock" could be argued to be a modern evolution of progressive rock to some extent (it's certainly more progressive than the bands that just try to copy the sound of Yes in 1972 over and over again) but Air? I like them a lot but they aren't any kind of modern equivalent of tangerine dream, their music is spacey lounge stuff that, although it uses more modern instrumentation, is largely a throwback to a 70's vibe - they aren't trying to explore any kind of new musical territory at all. They are good at what they do but they aren't progressive. Tangerine Dream were far more exploratory and different than what had come before. Gamma Nerd posted:I don't think post-rock has the same level of technicality and compositional density as golden-age prog It certainly has the compositional density. As for technicality, it should not be a defining factor of any genre, since it's primary effect is to ruin perfectly good music. Golden age prog (or a portion of it, rather) is usually enjoyable in spite of the overly technical displays of the musicians involved, not because of them, and a hell of a lot of it could be substantially improved by removing the solos (not Wakeman's though!) and some of the other pointlessly show-offy bits. A focus on technicality and compositional density results in garbage like Dream Theatre. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Sep 5, 2015 |
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Oh. In other news, I named my fantasy football team Edelman, Luck & Plummer because I like music nerd gags.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 09:34 |
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Yeah I know, I had to shake out the sillies. Anyway, if I had to listen to one prog song on repeat on a desert island or what have you, it'd almost definitely be KC's Epitaph, even if the original version could've been mixed a bit better. In a better world, that song would have approached Stairway to Heaven in terms of mass popularity.
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Punch Card posted:Anyway, if I had to listen to one prog song on repeat on a desert island or what have you, it'd almost definitely be KC's Epitaph, even if the original version could've been mixed a bit better. In a better world, that song would have approached Stairway to Heaven in terms of mass popularity. This but Starless.
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The Pope has announced a prog rock album. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pope-francis-to-release-pop-rock-album-wake-up-20150925 I'm not too much into Italian prog scene, but the single doesn't sound bad at all. I wonder if Pope Francis will ever listen to it, though.
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# ? Sep 25, 2015 18:44 |
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Well this new Pope does indeed have progressive views so it makes sense that he'd release a progressive album.
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# ? Sep 27, 2015 05:24 |
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Wow that single is actually fairly listenable. I feel like most if not all the instruments are digital? Can't imagine too much guitar wanking in the live renditions, it's all a bit too clinical.
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# ? Sep 27, 2015 18:44 |
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Gamma Nerd posted:Drama is pretty good tbh but it's not amazing. Going For The One has a couple good songs. That's about it. GFTO has Awaken on it, which makes up for anything else.
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# ? Sep 28, 2015 05:32 |
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I like nearly every song on GFTO. Awaken is my favorite Yes track ever, and the rest of the are solid. The title track might be the weakest on on there. Parallels is a cool Squire rock track, Turn of the Century is absolutely beautiful with great work from Howe, and Wondrous Stories is decent prog pop. e: I will say that the production is pretty bad. Very muddy sound. Hopefully SW remixes this one at some point.
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# ? Sep 28, 2015 05:58 |
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It's no Close to the Edge but it's better than Relayer and Tales IMO. Drama was surprisingly decent for what it was though.
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# ? Sep 28, 2015 16:14 |
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Three of a Perfect Pair camp 2016 just announced for Aug 1-5! Got my tix for all three Toronto shows, plus the pre- our show on QC on the 12th (yay TL)!
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# ? Sep 30, 2015 00:01 |
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Is it possible to be impressed and horrified at the same time?
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 01:47 |
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Well, I certainly didn't need to sleep tonight.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 02:49 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Is it possible to be impressed and horrified at the same time? http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...zoidzoid+manman
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 02:58 |
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That's brilliant, the Mirrors section is absolute madness. But this is still my favourite KC song overlaid on itself: http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...2=6&authorName=
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 16:45 |
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On a whim I went searching for one of my favorite prog albums on Youtube, but it wasn't there So I uploaded it myself: Maximum Indifference - The Transmutations of Supposed Angels: Or Beings That Were Once Girls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUmGk8eq0pQ I actually don't like that much prog, I find most of it too wanky/technical and the singing usually isn't my thing, but for some reason stuff like this and Bozzio/Levin/Stevens' Situation Dangerous are totally my bag man.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 01:19 |
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Riverside put out an album recently. It's very Riversidey, I enjoy it.
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# ? Oct 16, 2015 05:39 |
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Catching up on the current series of Mastermind, one contestant picked King Crimson as their specialist subject, did alright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySitydO86c Decent episode, worth watching all the way through, skip to 7:20 for the round in question.
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 02:18 |
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired-20151028quote:"I'm no longer officially retired, the horse is out of the stable and I'm raring to go."
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 03:43 |
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Home from trip to Quebec to see KC. Great show, mix a bit off from hall acoustics and drum placement. Met up with a bunch of friends, swapped stories, chatted with Tony Pat and even Mel. I noted a flute oops that Mel confirmed and that RF glitched a Mellotron part in Starless pretty hard.
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# ? Nov 14, 2015 16:24 |
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How the gently caress are you all getting to just hang out with King Crimson
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# ? Nov 19, 2015 21:24 |
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Nobody Interesting posted:How the gently caress are you all getting to just hang out with King Crimson They're rich as hell.
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# ? Nov 19, 2015 21:48 |
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I had tickets to see King Crimson tonight in Toronto but I can't go because I have a severe case of shingles At least I was able to find someone from work who wanted them.
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# ? Nov 19, 2015 21:58 |
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Allen Wren posted:They're rich as hell. Hardly. One guy I know is, case in point he said he just bought the guitar Steve Howe played on the first ASIA album. Because he lost his virginity to 'Heat Of The Moment' so he bought the guitar. He's wealthy. I just blow money I should save for seeing bands. Also, apparently someone used a flash at the first Toronto show and Robert left the stage after KotCK finished as a result, ending the show early.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 14:49 |
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Does anyone count Starcastle among their guilty pleasures? It's utterly cheesy and derivative music that's basically a Yes clone with big synths (it probably helps that I'm an Eloy fan so the big synths are right up my alley) but it's lively and fun and sounds more like classic Yes than anything Yes has done since Relayer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OgrMMQZf1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tORbYuWtM Their reunion album from 2009 is really bad from the sample I heard though.
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I have a Starcastle live album - Shine Brightly I think. Just because it's one of those ones that's always at the local Record Fair and everyone who sells prog/rock/metal always has 5 copies. Shockingly pitched to me as "the American Yes" - funny that. Rather good, I should dig it out again sometime.
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