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my dream srw involves all the shows with meaningless judeochristian mytho-technobabble, i will call it super robot wars t but it's important the t never be uppercase because otherwise it won't look like a cross ...there has to be more than just xenogears and eva, like at least four or five eva ripoffs have to fall under that right?
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Tae posted:Like recent example was Build Fighters. Super easy explanation: make them control from the battleship as they find *insert thing* that makes their gunpla large and functioning. That's not the actual problem, though. Build Fighters is fundamentally about how everything is a game and there is no real risk of death. If you throw that out you basically either have to completely change the entire story, do some really silly fourth wall stuff, or make everyone look like complete sociopaths. BF is just the kind of a show where it has to be central to the setting or it doesn't work at all. EDIT: Mind you, Super Robot Wars Toy Fighting would be the best. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 09:18
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Tae posted:Space Evas/Xabungle Isn't Getter in W more the Toei Getter team getting Shin Getter instead of G than anything else really(with them using Armageddon's version cause it's the easiest to do a move set for)
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Sep 20, 2015 10:09
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If you do SRW Toy Fighting just go full fun the way Build Fighters did. Make the pilots just regular people with toys. Keep a few of their traits and keep the setting super fun. Make it a spin off game and bring Ryusei back because he'd be the best for it.
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Sep 20, 2015 15:29
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And inexplicably put New Getter Robo and Mazinkaiser SKL in just to gently caress with people.
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Sep 20, 2015 16:01
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BlitzBlast posted:That's not the actual problem, though. Build Fighters is fundamentally about how everything is a game and there is no real risk of death. If you throw that out you basically either have to completely change the entire story, do some really silly fourth wall stuff, or make everyone look like complete sociopaths. What if they all think it's a really immersive MMO they're playing from another dimension
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Sep 20, 2015 16:10
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"Sei Iori, do you truly understand the risks and responsibilities that come with becoming an actual Gundam pilot?" "I'm ready, I marathoned Victory Gundam over the weekend."
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Sep 20, 2015 16:24
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The SRW crew tends to fight robots and mindless monsters at the 2nd half of the games anyway, so if killing real people is your issue, it's a really easy problem to solve. You could also put disabling effects on their attack animations/dialogue, pilots run away, etc. I just think it's silly to never put a good material like Build Fighters because it "doesn't fit," when Sgt. Frog is mass murdering with hatsune miku.
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Sep 20, 2015 16:30
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put build fighters in the same game as bokurano
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Sep 20, 2015 17:10
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Tae posted:The SRW crew tends to fight robots and mindless monsters at the 2nd half of the games anyway, so if killing real people is your issue, it's a really easy problem to solve. That isn't it either. There is literally no death in Build Fighters. If anyone, in any of the shows mixed in at all dies, that should completely change up the show's dynamic unless the writing is so spectacularly bad they just ignore it entirely. Sgt. Frog, as comedic as it is, still involves an army of alien invaders trying to conquer Earth. That can work with more serious concepts really easily. Even Hatsune Miku is there because she was in Virtual On. I mean if they really want to just put Build Fighters in a regular SRW anyways, drat the consequences, I'm sure they'll do it. But personally if they have to bastardize it to get it to work, I'd rather just not see it at all. v  v
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Sep 20, 2015 17:32
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The easiest way to put in Build Fighters is to just have units only.
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Sep 20, 2015 17:36
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The GIG posted:"Sei Iori, do you truly understand the risks and responsibilities that come with becoming an actual Gundam pilot?"
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Sep 20, 2015 18:02
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iirc Fei Yen HD only ever appeared in Project DIVA and as a promotional model so it is still really out of place.AradoBalanga posted:Extra bonus points if Sei is either talking to or is near Uso when he says this. All the extra gundam pilots you can get are saveable because Sei just grabs them and slowly shakes his head before they go fly to their deaths. The GIG fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 18:12
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Excuse me, I believe you'll find that Build Fighters is a serious show. Why, in the sequel, the protagonist ends up in the hospital multiple times due to his robot-related injuries.
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Sep 20, 2015 18:30
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The GIG posted:iirc Fei Yen HD only ever appeared in Project DIVA and as a promotional model so it is still really out of place. Yeah, Miku's Fei Yen HD is only in UX with the most tenuous connection. She really does only have an alternate costume and a one-off figurine as her justification for being in the game.
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Sep 20, 2015 18:31
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BlitzBlast posted:That isn't it either. There is literally no death in Build Fighters. If anyone, in any of the shows mixed in at all dies, that should completely change up the show's dynamic unless the writing is so spectacularly bad they just ignore it entirely. Sgt. Frog, as comedic as it is, still involves an army of alien invaders trying to conquer Earth. That can work with more serious concepts really easily. Even Hatsune Miku is there because she was in Virtual On. Build Fighters already ruined the 'no consequences' line by itself starting from Try, where all the best (or most emotional?) pilots hurt themselves whenever they fight.
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Sep 20, 2015 19:48
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Yeah but I think we can all agree that we'd rather see Build Fighters in SRW than Try. And even in Try it's just Sekai, and pretty much everyone just glosses over it because of how spectacularly awkward it is. Although BFT in SRW would be hilarious because Sekai embodies the SRW combat style. 
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Sep 20, 2015 19:55
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I thought you didn't want Build Fighters period.
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Sep 20, 2015 20:12
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BlitzBlast posted:Although BFT in SRW would be hilarious because Sekai embodies the SRW combat style. They already did this joke only unironically in Z3.
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Sep 20, 2015 20:19
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Policenaut posted:Yeah, Miku's Fei Yen HD is only in UX with the most tenuous connection. She really does only have an alternate costume and a one-off figurine as her justification for being in the game. What's amusing about this is Sega skirts the issue of people getting mad by saying it's the sentient original Fei Yen cosplaying as Miku. This does not help in any way and most VO fans were still mad over it. Also, according to friends who got the figure, it's pretty bad. It apparently cannot stand on it's own because of the hair and tiny feet. Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 20:32
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Caphi posted:They already did this joke only unironically in Z3. Which one was that?
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Sep 20, 2015 20:50
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Miku is great in UX at least, if only for the Fafner finale where she stages a concert in the middle of it and lowers all the Festum's morale.
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Sep 20, 2015 20:51
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ImpAtom posted:Which one was that? The endgame thing; Traia's speech when she activates it all but spells it out. (There's a more roundabout and less overbearing comparison between it and the Lambda Driver if you look slightly hard.)
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Sep 20, 2015 21:08
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Tae posted:I thought you didn't want Build Fighters period. I want it in, but done well. It deserves it. 
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Sep 20, 2015 21:10
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Huh, Bandai Namco put up what appears to be the prologue scenes of random chapters from Cross Omega. The title says they're "Unit Quests", so that's a thing. It is finally Apolly's time to shine.
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Sep 23, 2015 00:44
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Yeah, Chain Chronicles functions the same way where literally every party member has a mini-story to play.
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Sep 23, 2015 00:47
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Trust me, this is SRW related as hell.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:38
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I wonder if any SRW has had someone die that didn't die in canon. I remember in D, like, someone asks Kamille what happened to the rest of AEUG and he says they're all dead, but Fa, Char, Haman, Bright and Roux are all still around and that's about every secondary pilot that survived through mid UC. Heck, even Astonaige is still kicking.
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Sep 26, 2015 01:39
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Gyra_Solune posted:I wonder if any SRW has had someone die that didn't die in canon. Miwa is a big example here. Dude gets Genesis'd in SRWA3 and survives the series. Gil Berg from Dangaioh too.
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Sep 26, 2015 01:42
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ImpAtom posted:Miwa is a big example here. Dude gets Genesis'd in SRWA3 and survives the series. Gil Berg from Dangaioh too. I don't think he meant villains
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Sep 26, 2015 02:44
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Well yeah I should've expected that for villains, heh.
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So I beat UX just now, despite getting hosed out of getting Lu Bu Tallgeese and the last stage being a nightmare it's a good game! I ended up using the Fafner, SD gundam and Linebarrel units a lot, and was happy to see the Fafner units not being trash like they were in K, especially Kazuki being my top ace.Gyra_Solune posted:I wonder if any SRW has had someone die that didn't die in canon. In A and maybe J Allenby could die if you didn't do her requirements but that's the only one I can think of.
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I think Fuunsaiki dies with Master Asia in A if you don't get the secret to recruit him. But the secret is just 'give Domon 30 kills by stage 21' so it's pretty hard to miss it unless you don't use Domon whatsoever.
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Sep 26, 2015 07:50
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Kusakabe also dies in every game featuring Nadesico except I think A.
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Sep 26, 2015 07:53
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Justin_Brett posted:Kusakabe also dies in every game featuring Nadesico except I think A. Add one more to that list with him surviving BX.
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Sep 26, 2015 09:20
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Is there a decent story translation for SRW D around? The only one I found is the one on GameFAQs and that only seems to cover one set of routes, and it doesn't even clarify what those route splits are.
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Sep 26, 2015 11:28
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Pureauthor posted:Add one more to that list with him surviving BX. there's no way in hell they aren't at least making words about a sequel to BX, what with that jerk making it, not using gaogaigar final for some reason, and mister ooh i'm so mysterious i'm gonna show up on the last stage and be some shady time lord buttface
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Sep 26, 2015 18:26
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I'm playing the first Z now (continuing to play the Z series in complete chaos order) and it's super great but I really miss the ability to put my own soundtrack.
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Sep 27, 2015 17:37
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If we continue the trend of 3DS SRW games including a SD Gundam entry, wonder if they'd use SD Gundam Force for the next game
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I want to see them use the original SD Gundam shorts. Give me the Gundam Olympics as a stage.
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